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StarCreator · 2004-03-10, 14:38

They're not separate from AD Vision - AD Vision is the parent company of ADV Films, ADV Manga, ADV Toys, NewType USA, The Anime Network, etc...

Translation of the Osaka dialect is often translator's choice - different translators (and translations) will often depict them differently, if at all, usually if it is important to the series in some way. It is important to show Ayumu is an outsider in Azumanga, since some of the humor revolves around that. Similarly, Abenobashi has its own cultural reasons to need to depict their accent. (That, and there are similar dialect-related jokes, too.)

Personally, I'd prefer it being depicted as a New York accent to a southern one. Sometimes a southern accent is a better fit to the character, but not always...

ZhouYu · 2004-03-10, 20:48

[0_o] im from new york.... i dont speak like that.... nor do i know anyone that does... fuhgeddaboutit??? wtf? -_-''

Mr_Paper · 2004-03-10, 22:55

That's more or less my beef with the New York translation.

It seems, to me, more like a weird derivation of the infamous
Italian Mobster dialect.

Briareos · 2004-03-11, 10:20

Maybe they should have specifically said Brooklyn instead of New York? Or maybe Boston.

The point about the jokes is that the kids think that all New Yorkers talk and behave in one stereotypical way. (Perhaps learning this from gang/mobster films, who knows?) The truth is very different, and that's what makes it funny.

babbito2k · 2004-03-11, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Briareos

Maybe they should have specifically said Brooklyn instead of New York? Or maybe Boston.

Boston has its neighborhoods too though...

A fun fact about accents - the accent of people from Hoboken, NJ used to be exactly the same as people living in a certain parish in New Orleans, LA hundreds of miles away. Hoboken has changed a lot and maybe New Orleans has so I can't say this is still true.

diabolistic · 2004-03-11, 21:16

just read the second volume for azumanga daioh..

a HUGE improvement over the first volume.. i kinda wish i didn't give the first one away now ;_;

Mr_Paper · 2004-03-11, 22:24

The third is even better than the second. ^^

RavenChild · 2004-03-11, 23:18

i'm reading the first two right now. i got them so that i could scan in pictures and cg the color. i've only had time for a few of these.

Shii · 2004-03-11, 23:28

ADV needs to do a v2 of the first volume.

Mr_Paper · 2004-03-12, 00:06

A v2 of the second volume would be nice too...

They could include translator notes in all the volumes.

StarCreator · 2004-03-13, 04:27

Yes, a lot of jokes at Ayumu's expense are from the stereotypical view of Osakans. A stereotypical view of a New Yorker is a pretty good parallel to that.

BanditKing · 2004-03-13, 10:59

Just read v1 - v3 damn good series.
I like how ADV did to volume three with the translation.Telling what they change and why they change it.I wouldn't be able to know about tomo haircut mean if it wouldn't those notes.

OutPhase · 2004-04-13, 10:02

Yes, the final volume is here in the US. My brother bought it on the way home from school. I read it, I loved, so has anyone else finished the manga?

New quote coming soon....

Mr_Paper · 2004-04-13, 10:16

Couldn't you have posted this in the other Azumanga Daioh manga thread?

OutPhase · 2004-04-13, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

Couldn't you have posted this in the other Azumanga Daioh manga thread?

.....There's another AzuDai manga thread?! And I never knew about?!

*Being Depressed* I have no right to call myself an Azumanga Daioh fan......

Tell me where it is!

Kyuven · 2004-04-13, 12:42

i ordered it

i had it in my hands friday ^_^
it issssss goooood
though kinda depressing...NO MORE AZUMANGA DAIOH!

;_;

Mr_Paper · 2004-04-13, 13:00

The other Azumanga Daioh thread...

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=4792

Seravy · 2004-04-13, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

A v2 of the second volume would be nice too...

They could include translator notes in all the volumes.

They did a great job with v3. It would be nice if they rereleased v1 & 2 with notes and make the notes available on their website (for those who have purchased v1 & 2 already).

Spooky-Electric · 2004-04-13, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Seravy

They did a great job with v3. It would be nice if they rereleased v1 & 2 with notes and make the notes available on their website (for those who have purchased v1 & 2 already).

Yeah, they could also fix Yukari being a Spanish teacher in Volume 1 and remove Osaka's brooklyn accent like they did in later volumes. They still use "fuhgetaboutit", but no more brooklyn accent.

Kyuven · 2004-04-14, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Spooky-Electric

Yeah, they could also fix Yukari being a Spanish teacher in Volume 1 and remove Osaka's brooklyn accent like they did in later volumes. They still use "fuhgetaboutit", but no more brooklyn accent.

instead, they seem to slur her speech a bit (dropping g's from -ing words from time to time)
*sniff*
i'm going through withdrawal...2 weeks til the first anime DVD comes out >_<

2004-03-10, 14:38	Link #21
StarCreator HnK founding lunatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 41	They're not separate from AD Vision - AD Vision is the parent company of ADV Films, ADV Manga, ADV Toys, NewType USA, The Anime Network, etc... Translation of the Osaka dialect is often translator's choice - different translators (and translations) will often depict them differently, if at all, usually if it is important to the series in some way. It is important to show Ayumu is an outsider in Azumanga, since some of the humor revolves around that. Similarly, Abenobashi has its own cultural reasons to need to depict their accent. (That, and there are similar dialect-related jokes, too.) Personally, I'd prefer it being depicted as a New York accent to a southern one. Sometimes a southern accent is a better fit to the character, but not always... __________________ * StarCreator * Hikari no Kiseki

2004-03-11, 21:16	Link #26
diabolistic pythagorean≠python gorax Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: look behind you...	just read the second volume for azumanga daioh.. a HUGE improvement over the first volume.. i kinda wish i didn't give the first one away now ;_; __________________ <Pabs> kcl, you sure do put out a lot of Naruto eps

2004-03-11, 23:18	Link #28
RavenChild エリック Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: my closet, deep and dark Age: 36	i'm reading the first two right now. i got them so that i could scan in pictures and cg the color. i've only had time for a few of these. __________________ *********** RavenChild ************

2004-03-11, 23:28	Link #29
Shii Afflicted by the vanities Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fish-shape Paumanok Age: 36	ADV needs to do a v2 of the first volume. __________________ Learn to define and spell moé Shii (formerly known as ashibaka)

2004-03-13, 04:27	Link #31
StarCreator HnK founding lunatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 41	Yes, a lot of jokes at Ayumu's expense are from the stereotypical view of Osakans. A stereotypical view of a New Yorker is a pretty good parallel to that. __________________ * StarCreator * Hikari no Kiseki

2004-03-10, 20:48	Link #22
ZhouYu ^im with stupid Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Age: 43	[0_o] im from new york.... i dont speak like that.... nor do i know anyone that does... fuhgeddaboutit??? wtf? -_-''

2004-03-10, 22:55	Link #23
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	That's more or less my beef with the New York translation. It seems, to me, more like a weird derivation of the infamous Italian Mobster dialect.

2004-03-11, 10:20	Link #24
Briareos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA Age: 53	Maybe they should have specifically said Brooklyn instead of New York? Or maybe Boston. The point about the jokes is that the kids *think* that all New Yorkers talk and behave in one stereotypical way. (Perhaps learning this from gang/mobster films, who knows?) The truth is very different, and that's what makes it funny.

2004-03-11, 22:24	Link #27
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	The third is even better than the second. ^^

2004-03-12, 00:06	Link #30
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	A v2 of the second volume would be nice too... They could include translator notes in all the volumes.

2004-03-13, 10:59	Link #32
BanditKing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	Just read v1 - v3 damn good series. I like how ADV did to volume three with the translation.Telling what they change and why they change it.I wouldn't be able to know about tomo haircut mean if it wouldn't those notes. Last edited by BanditKing; 2004-03-15 at 23:05.

2004-04-13, 10:02	Link #33
OutPhase Lord Chairman God King Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Do you really give a damn?	Azumanga Daioh volume 4 is out now! Yes, the final volume is here in the US. My brother bought it on the way home from school. I read it, I loved, so has anyone else finished the manga? New quote coming soon....

2004-04-13, 10:16	Link #34
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	Couldn't you have posted this in the other Azumanga Daioh manga thread?

2004-04-13, 12:42	Link #36
Kyuven Bishoujo Goodness Galore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuck Between Reality and Fantasy	i ordered it i had it in my hands friday ^_^ it issssss goooood though kinda depressing...NO MORE AZUMANGA DAIOH! ;_;

2004-04-13, 13:00	Link #37
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	The other Azumanga Daioh thread... http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=4792 Last edited by xris; 2004-04-13 at 17:34. Reason: Good idea, merged the two threads together :)