2006-12-15, 14:52 | Link #22 | |
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Deidara is severely underrated simply because of stacking odds and plot holes against him. He is easily the best Atatsuki member shown so far in the series; based on what he has accomplished. Granted we all know guys like Itachi is stronger; but what has he done?
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2006-12-15, 17:06 | Link #23 |
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Konoha has kicked the crap out of two hidden villages at once, the Sand and the Sound, and has produced some of the strongest ninja in existence, including Sarutobi, who is regarded as the greatest ninja EVER. Attacking Konoha is going to be very costly in terms of manpower and resources. Even if a country manages to win, the attacker will be in a weakened state and others might take the time to come in and crush the weakened country. An alliance between two or more villages might work, but Konoha had two villages launch a sneak attack in the middle of their village, and they managed to repel the invaders. The sand still hasn't recovered fully and we haven't seen anyone from the Sound besides Kabuto, Orochimaru, and Sasuke.
In order for an attack on Konoha to be feasible, the attack must involve more than two hidden villages, and they must be able to win with enough of their military intact to survive a counterattack from the Sand, and still be strong enough to take contracts and defend themselves from opportunistic vultures after that. In other words, it makes the invasion of Iraq look like a brilliant idea in comparison. |
2006-12-15, 17:51 | Link #24 | |
Bubbly and super fun
Join Date: May 2003
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Posttime skip it seems they restored their power back. To be fair, Konoha has only won over a small forces from the Sand and unknown amount from the Sound in a sneaky attack (which was expected) and which failed mainly because of Gaara's instability. Also the Sand did fully recover, in fact thanks to their new alliance with Konoha their power increased to their original strength from before they started to weaken. But overall I agree, attacking and destroying Konoha + the Sand and still have the manpower to look powerful enough in order not to be attacked by the other villages seems almost impossible. Success of not the destruction of a single of one of the 5 Great villages would most probably leads to another Ninja World War as Orochimaru planned anyway. |
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2006-12-15, 18:33 | Link #25 |
da big boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
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To say that Konoha is weak is ridiculous. Because we've only seen two of the five shinobi villages in action. The only one we've seen so far other than the Leaf is the Sand village. And guess what, they had to enlist the help of another village, and they still got owned. And you saw how ridiculously weak Gaara's father, the supposed kazekage was. And I'm not saying this for a fact so don't take it as a fact, but I'm not so sure about the strength of the Mizukage if Zabuza was going to fight him by himself (with a little help from Haku of course). And aside from that Konoha has produced the most excellent shinobi who ever lived.
The fourth hokage Itachi Oro White Fang Jiraiya Tsunade These were all names of those who were feared not only in their own village. But in other villages as well. The only village that may give them trouble is the Cloud. Because Konoha was prepared to give up the leader of the Hyuuga clan to avoid war with them. Or maybe they just didn't want war in general. Who knows? Point is, so far, Konoha is the best.
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2006-12-15, 20:07 | Link #26 | |
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-Zabuza didn't try this alone, he and his men organized a coup d'etat against the Mist. He failed and barely escaped with the last of his men. |
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2006-12-15, 20:15 | Link #27 | |
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-Also true, and Zabuza was willing to risk it all again in the future once he obtained more funds. Talk about not learning one's lesson.
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2006-12-15, 22:27 | Link #29 | |
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Since no one seemed to notice the switch, it can be assumed that Orochimaru managed to take him out relatively quickly and silently (a long, drawn-out battle would have been loud and/or caused a lot of property damage, both of which would arouse suspicion). The vibe I got was that the switch was...effortless. |
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2006-12-16, 14:42 | Link #31 |
Akatsuki Bart is Tobi
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I still don't see anyone just obliterating konoha at will. There are still the ANBU who believe it or not must be doing a decent job (despite a few gross failures). After all, if it was simply a matter of doing something major at night, then oro was pretty stupid for planning an invasion the way he did. It'd be easier to just sneak in, kidnap sasuke, and then later destroy the village with some massive jutsu. But maybe its not that easy, either for Oro or for anyone else.
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2006-12-16, 14:53 | Link #32 | |
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This thread was ridiculous from the beginning... not just Konoha misses top shinobi... other countries too. |
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