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Perfect 10 | 791 | 63.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 163 | 13.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 95 | 7.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 67 | 5.40% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 17 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 18 | 1.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 7 | 0.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 0.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.32% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 72 | 5.80% | |
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2008-09-28, 23:48 | Link #2062 | |
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When Nunnaly touched his hand she seemed to receive a vision of Lelouch and Suzaku's conversations. Something like that only happened when C.C. touched Lelouch before. Avbout talking to a spirit though, C.C. could simply be talking out loud to heaven, similar to how Kallen was speaking to the dead Lelouch. And we're not sure if the code activates upon death. I thought Charles shot himself on purpose, but I guess we can't be sure. Nunnally getting that vision, and C.C. being happy are the two biggest hints to Lelouch being alive. Why would she be happy about a better world? As far as we know it wasn't the circumstances of the world that made her unhappy. I don't like how they leave the ending open ended like this, even if it's vague, there are some strong signs so... I hope it's cleared up in a epilogue on the DVD or OVA.
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wherein; Lelouch and C.C. will show up and beat the living daylights out of whoever plays the role of Shinn Asuka and his gang? |
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2008-09-28, 23:49 | Link #2064 | |
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2008-09-28, 23:50 | Link #2065 | |
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But still, what was Code Geass about, or rather, what made Code Geass? Like I said, with Lelouch the series is dead in the water. Maybe a good hour long OVA narrated by Suzaku, but if they even attempted to go for another run at it, anything other than the real thing wouldn't do. |
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2008-09-28, 23:50 | Link #2066 |
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Okay, I've read through the first 62 pages so forgive me if someone brought this up later and I missed it.
It seems no one has pointed out one interpretation of the origami crane. In recent years the origami crane is closely associated with a wish for WORLD PEACE. And what was Nunnally and Euphie's dearest wish that Lelouch and Suzaku were trying to achieve? A peaceful world where everyone can live with their loved ones. Which, so far, seems to have been achieved through the Zero Requiem. I also think Lelouch is dead. C.C.'s words: "The Power of Kings, called Geass, will make people lonely. I suppose that wasn't quite true. Right, Lelouch?" can also be interpreted to mean that in the end he wasn't alone. Nunnally understood and loved him, Suzaku was still his friend and cried for him, Jeremiah supported him, Sayoko, Lloyd, Cecile, and Nina all supported his aims, Kallen, Todou, and Kaguya understood what he was trying to do at the last moment, and C.C. understood and supported him until the end (well, and Millay and Rivalz worried about him). But even though he died as a villain, hated by most of the world, the people close to him were still there . . . so he was not truly alone. As much as he tried to distance himself, and make others hate him, he was still loved. Sidenote: it's also possible for C.C. to be truly loved (whether by Lelouch or not is beside the point) . . . if she lives long enough, she can still achieve her dream of being loved by others. He gave her back her hope. (For Nunnally, initially the cranes were for her wish of being cured when she folded 1000, right? C.C. still has a ways to go before achieving her wish.) Well, and I think she might have been talking to him in the World of C. Was it ever explained how Charles was able to talk to dead Clovis? And C.C. did say she would see Mao in "the World of C." So there must be some way to communicate with the dead if you have a Geass . . . (remember, the collective unconscious of mankind - also, in Charles' plan everyone would be able to be united with the dead so they must still exist in some form in the CG universe) either that or the people in CG sure like to talk to themselves a lot. Also, Nunnally figured out what her brother was up to before the flashback (see her widening eyes as she realizes he's going to be killed by "Zero" who I'm sure she recognizes as Suzaku.) I think the flashback was just the animators using shorthand to convey to us that Nunnally had grasped her brother's thought process, not that she actually saw all those events take place. After all, she was going to do the same thing herself with Damocles - direct all the world's hatred there - so it's not like they're really all that different in the way they think. She also wanted to "take all the sins" upon herself which is why she was willing to do something as terrible as using FLEIJA. Well, feel free to disagree, but these are the conclusions I came to. |
2008-09-28, 23:53 | Link #2068 |
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2000+ posts eh? Guess I won't be able to make my post stand out to much this time, but I will say that the experience of Code Geass and the forum ups and downs have been fun...
Moving along to the episode itself, it was good episode to be sure but just a good one...Some parts of the fighting were extremely excellent, some parts downright frustrating if not annoying (Sunrise cockpit explosion TAKE 76)...The conflict with Nunally didn't go as good as I thought it would and went pretty much to script...I guess the most frustrating thing about this episode was the fact I had nothing left to give...It's hard when you feel like the show already climaxed 3 or 4 episodes ago and with no new boss, or unexpected ideology to consider here, all we basically got was a wrap-up episode(One that was feverishly trying to fit every character's bottom of the shoe subplot inside of it)... A wrap up episode that still leaves tons of questions but none enuff that I really care about that much anymore...If C.C.'s name was the one shining light that could have totally saved this show for someone, I pity you...If the last thing we saw on-screen was her gleefully whisper her name to the audience I wouldn't have blinked ... The Suzaku requiem was just so planned out that Lulu had to probably compute him surviving yet another ridiculous Sunrise cockpit explosion...The whole ending just came across as underwhelming to me...Final episodes make me want to astroproject into these scenes, soak up the last message, and let it purify me...However I was like "OK, that wasn't terrible..." Wasn't mad that Lulu died(?) at all, it's just it didn't seem like Code Geass...Where was the epicness before he died? It was like they went thru a laundry list of flashbacks, and he died...Not too much time to focus on the other's reaction of this and how it weighed on there lives (Except for Kallen and Nunally)...I mean there just wasn't anytime left... For shows that have mangas it's easy to blow off an incomplete ending or unsatisfying one because you know you can get your fix somewhere else (Or just know that the fix exists), but for shows like Code Geass which are original works you can't ever get back that feeling if it's one that didn't truly satisfy you...I almost wanna get like a 9/11 commission just to do an investigation on why like the last 6 episodes of Sunrise shows they never seem to be able to end a series in a natural pace--Always seems like they have more than enuff time, but kinda blow it everytime...This ep was awesome in-terms of the fighting and subtle expressions of artistry in some of the characters themselves, but at the end of the road I kinda feel like C.C. lying on that barn-wagon of hay...CG was fun, but next stop, next town...I won't forget the fun times as I jump off the wagon though... 7/10... MORE TO COME...
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2008-09-28, 23:54 | Link #2069 |
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People that think Lelouch is dead are jokes
Go watch the series again and understand how the code works.
then you will know that lelouch is alive. People that think is he dead are clueless and don't understand how the code works. Nunnally touching Lelouch was so clear to explain it. LOL Go back to when Lelouch first touched CC. That was the first time CC died. Same with Charles. Understand the series.... LOL @ people that think Lelouch is DEAD. |
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But one more question. I heard that there were problems with Sunrise and Tanigushi's side at the beginning as well, and also seen something about him saying he'll leave the industry after? Was that all a hoax too?
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2008-09-28, 23:55 | Link #2072 | |
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2008-09-28, 23:55 | Link #2074 |
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If only everything wasn't rushed...
If only they had made R2 end with Lelouch becomming the Emperor... And made a season 3. Everything until the very last half of episode 25 felt so... not kosher, I suppose. In the end, the way the last half of the episode was done, it was almost satisfying. The scene where he gets stabbed, and his body falls to Nunnally... It's epic and touching. I don't know how you could really hate it. However, at the end, while I'm torn between that being Lelouch or some random person, I think the way that CC looked up was what did it for me thinking it's Lelouch. When Jeremiah retreated, I think he might have took the body... Or done something like that. He knew everything as well as Suzaku, from what it looked, but I doubt he'd want his Majesty's corpse just dumped on. And if Lelouch's body was taken, then he coulda popped back up. The way CC looked while she was laying on the hay was like she wanted to be taken advantage of. Obviously, it's because Lelouch is totally having his way with her. ... I can dream, can't I? |
2008-09-28, 23:56 | Link #2075 | |
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Explain what exactly. They practically laid out the entire plan in expository dialogue for the audience. There's really not much left to explain. |
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2008-09-28, 23:56 | Link #2076 | |
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2008-09-28, 23:57 | Link #2077 | |
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abt the nunnally part, she's just used to feeling ppl's real thoughts by holding their hands. |
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2008-09-28, 23:57 | Link #2078 | ||
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Well, at least Lelouch does not have a godly mechas +army. You cna see even when Lulu + Suzaku works together against BK, their side still suffer significant damage. Not like the AA in GSD(at least in the original anime) where none of the MS from AA side got a scratch on it. Quote:
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