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hoarfrost · 2011-09-26, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by germanturkey

the spinoff comes out "today" in japan, how can you know what's in it already?

Some stuff has already been revealed in earlier chapters, since it's a prequal. Also, there is an extra chapter that appears to be little known which features Anette and Elizabeth during that time period. I don't know anything else, just piecing things together.

I presume IDL started flirting with the idea of this prequel after he did the extra chapter in question.

germanturkey · 2011-09-26, 23:32

^^ ah, nice to know. well, here's hoping for a quick scanlation!

konart · 2011-09-27, 00:49

Releasing ch.56 before ch.55 is such a...

hoarfrost · 2011-09-27, 02:58

Spoiler for ch 56:

Fenrir_valindri · 2011-09-27, 03:30

Spoiler for ch 56:

~Yami~ · 2011-09-27, 05:01

Spoiler for 56:

Endscape · 2011-09-27, 12:07

Spoiler for chapter 56:

Sinestra · 2011-09-27, 13:59

I just finished reading chapter 55 translated. Wow just wow Elizabeth even though she was trying to offer advice just sounded condescending to Ameila thats not to say Elizabeth was not right. Loosing your cool in battle can get you killed and worse off get your comrades killed too Pandora's work as a unit. That being said Elizabeth tore her apart and thats me being nice. Imagine if Elizabeth would have used her Volt weapon "Satellite" Amelia probably would have died. If the rest were impressed with Elizabeth then my girl Chiffon would have them peeing in their pants.

From what i can tell West Genetics happens to have the highest concentration of above level Pandoras in the world. Even Satellizer and Rana are recognized for their ability to evolve during battle and learn high end skills rather quickly. Being able to adapt in battle would put you in the top tier and also being able to withstand a sheer amount of punishment as well endurance is important.

At this point i feel pity for the E-Pandora's as they say there is no substitute for the real thing. Instead of trying to use them as a front line force they should integrate them into the already established Pandora force. Have them work together along with their Limiters.

Example
Lets use Star Wars as example. The Jedi and Pandora's are similar. They are a strong fighter force withe extraordinary power. The downside is in each, people need to be born with the aptitude to be either. Not everyone can be a Jedi and not everyone can be a Pandora. The small size of their force and the sheer amount of time it takes to train either a Jedi or Pandora is substantial. Neither are an army but more like a small Special Forces Unit.

In Starwars when the war broke out. Each clone army unit has a Jedi at the head commanding. This was brilliant the Jedi had a presence on the battlefield helped their clone comrades and they had muscle. Pair your Juggernauts (Pandora's/Jedi) with your large conventional fighting force (E-Pandora's/Clone Army). I believe that the E-pandoras can be used more effectively than what the assholes upstairs want.

Also, the Governments of the world should develop a system that tracks the spacial vortex that the Nova's appear from. If they knew where the Nova would attack they could deploy their forces faster in force these 2 ideas would make up for having to wait for girls being born who are compatible with stigmata s.

Im just throwing out ideas its always fun when see where you add a little something to a story

germanturkey · 2011-09-27, 14:34

If Elizabeth had used her funnels, it would have been over right away cause she would have just shot her from the get go.

she could read all of Amelia's moves.

also, it would appear after reading the last few chapters over again, that Chiffon probably has a wicked side, such that when she fights for real, she greatly enjoys it. like in chapter 54, when she's like, "i wonder how strong they are!" its full of anticipation.

ClawofBeta · 2011-09-27, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoarfrost

Some stuff has already been revealed in earlier chapters, since it's a prequal. Also, there is an extra chapter that appears to be little known which features Anette and Elizabeth during that time period. I don't know anything else, just piecing things together.

I presume IDL started flirting with the idea of this prequel after he did the extra chapter in question.

Okay, so I have been lurking here for a while (seems like this is the biggest forum...er...thread that discusses Freezing) and I hadn't bothered to sign up until now when I saw this post.

Me wants source to the extra chapter please =D. I'm rather an Annette fan D=.

surerman · 2011-09-27, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClawofBeta

Okay, so I have been lurking here for a while (seems like this is the biggest forum...er...thread that discusses Freezing) and I hadn't bothered to sign up until now when I saw this post.

Me wants source to the extra chapter please =D. I'm rather an Annette fan D=.

try crazymanga.be they have RAW till vol 9

Kyouka · 2011-09-27, 16:58

im loving this new chapter a day thing

hoarfrost · 2011-09-27, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClawofBeta

Okay, so I have been lurking here for a while (seems like this is the biggest forum...er...thread that discusses Freezing) and I hadn't bothered to sign up until now when I saw this post.

Me wants source to the extra chapter please =D. I'm rather an Annette fan D=.

A man after my own heart. Check your inbox, though you may rage at some of it.

~Yami~ · 2011-09-27, 17:45

Spoiler for 57:

ClawofBeta · 2011-09-27, 18:18

The one thing I don't get about the E-pandora project is that the e-pandoras aren't really that weak. They're going up against the TOP Pandoras in the world. Seriously, if they just fight a plain old regular pandora (like say...I dunno, Ingrid, but even she is one of top Pandoras at West Genetics)) Amelia would have a fighting chance.

Thanks for the raws by the way. I'm not quite sure if I should spoil it for myself or just wait until it gets translated (it's so far away though...)

Magin · 2011-09-27, 19:56

Dayum... three chapters in three days. At this rate, we might even be caught up to the RAWs in mid to late October (RAWs are out to 73ish)

Alhazad2003 · 2011-09-27, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Yami~

Spoiler for 57:

You're not the only one, I assure you. Even though Ohara might care about the E-Pandora, pressure from Spencer and his committee, coupled with her desire to demonstrate her superiority to Gengo Aoi, puts her in a very difficult situation. Not to mention there's people like Charles, who stand by the project regardless of the cost. Big difference between her and Elizabeth.

I really can't wait for the next chapter to come out, whenever it does. Until then...

Panzerklein · 2011-09-27, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magin

Dayum... three chapters in three days. At this rate, we might even be caught up to the RAWs in mid to late October (RAWs are out to 73ish)

Lastest raw is chapter 77~78

Magin · 2011-09-27, 20:49

... so about 20 days then, if this pace of a chapter a day keeps up. I knew we were into the 70's in terms of RAWs, but not the precise number.

Tempest35 · 2011-09-27, 21:58

That smile, so much like our Stella...Amelia is definitely what Stella could have been if she wasn't accepted as an el Bridget.

I really like Roxanne too - she's got a simple yet likeable personality and isn't afraid to voice her opinion on this and what she says shows quite a bit of thought behind it as well. I guess that Dr. Aoi is the 'status quo' for how the Pandora are trained and what dangers they face while in school, so everything related is put up against Dr. Aoi's 'measuring stick'. Kazuya must see how the other Pandora respect Dr. Aoi so whatever he feels his grandfather did, it better be actually something bad or else I might reach through the page and smack him.

And this might be a lil late or even crazy, but is Chiffron not only #1 rank at Genetics Japan, but also #1 rank in the world...? I mean, I'm getting that vibe from everyone who's addressed her, even from the other top Pandora that we've seen - calling her by her title moreso than her name.

Kinda like how in Rurouni Kenshin, his friends called him 'Kenshin' or 'Himura-san' while the other strong fighters near his level nearly always referred to him as 'Battousai'.

2011-09-26, 23:32	Link #1282
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	^^ ah, nice to know. well, here's hoping for a quick scanlation! __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2011-09-27, 00:49	Link #1283
konart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Moscow, RU Age: 35	Releasing ch.56 before ch.55 is such a... __________________

2011-09-27, 02:58	Link #1284
hoarfrost Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 31	Spoiler for ch 56: I know this is supposed to make us respect Elizabeth, but an enormous pet peeve of mine is people who lead sheltered lives pretending to know about the circumstances of others, ie: the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" rhetoric. I could start soapboxing so I'll call it quits there but I had a creeping suspicion that most of the pandoras seem to be either from wealthy families of wealthy countries, which is more or less confirmed here. Dr. Whatsherface seems to harbor resentment towards people born with special circumstances. Speculation time: She had feelings for Gengo, but was beaten to the punch by Maria Lancelot, explaining her resentment of innate talent and her callous attitude towards Maria Lancelot's legacy.

2011-09-27, 03:30	Link #1285
Fenrir_valindri Miria's #1 Disciple Join Date: Apr 2007	Spoiler for ch 56: Not to belittle the E-Pandora's circumstances, but the typical Pandora's life isn't all roses either. They are front-line soldiers against cosmic horrors and sacrifice any chance at a normal life by becoming what they are. Sure, not all of them have had harsh childhoods like the Untouchable Queen, but their occupation does run the high chance of being mauled by otherworldly beings or even being turned into monsters themselves. __________________

2011-09-27, 05:01	Link #1286
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Spoiler for 56: now I know why in previous spoiler, everyone said that Elisabeth is very cool and kind she really show some lesson and respect to someone who is inferior to her E-pandora must know that a life as Pandora isn't easy at all.... take Satella's life for example hopefully I won't enter RAGE mode after seeing what that medicine can do to E-pandora's body

2011-09-27, 12:07	Link #1287
Endscape The Mage of Four Hearts Author Join Date: Mar 2010 Age: 33	Spoiler for chapter 56: The more I see of Elizabeth, the more I like her. Her methods may not be the best, but she's really trying to be a nice person. I can respect that. She didn't say that she understood anything about them, but said that things like their circumstances don't matter, since they're all comrades. __________________ Illusion, illusion, this is illusion. It cannot harm me.

2011-09-27, 13:59	Link #1288
Sinestra ション (^^) IT Support Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu	I just finished reading chapter 55 translated. Wow just wow Elizabeth even though she was trying to offer advice just sounded condescending to Ameila thats not to say Elizabeth was not right. Loosing your cool in battle can get you killed and worse off get your comrades killed too Pandora's work as a unit. That being said Elizabeth tore her apart and thats me being nice. Imagine if Elizabeth would have used her Volt weapon "Satellite" Amelia probably would have died. If the rest were impressed with Elizabeth then my girl Chiffon would have them peeing in their pants. From what i can tell West Genetics happens to have the highest concentration of above level Pandoras in the world. Even Satellizer and Rana are recognized for their ability to evolve during battle and learn high end skills rather quickly. Being able to adapt in battle would put you in the top tier and also being able to withstand a sheer amount of punishment as well endurance is important. At this point i feel pity for the E-Pandora's as they say there is no substitute for the real thing. Instead of trying to use them as a front line force they should integrate them into the already established Pandora force. Have them work together along with their Limiters. Example Lets use Star Wars as example. The Jedi and Pandora's are similar. They are a strong fighter force withe extraordinary power. The downside is in each, people need to be born with the aptitude to be either. Not everyone can be a Jedi and not everyone can be a Pandora. The small size of their force and the sheer amount of time it takes to train either a Jedi or Pandora is substantial. Neither are an army but more like a small Special Forces Unit. In Starwars when the war broke out. Each clone army unit has a Jedi at the head commanding. This was brilliant the Jedi had a presence on the battlefield helped their clone comrades and they had muscle. Pair your Juggernauts (Pandora's/Jedi) with your large conventional fighting force (E-Pandora's/Clone Army). I believe that the E-pandoras can be used more effectively than what the assholes upstairs want. Also, the Governments of the world should develop a system that tracks the spacial vortex that the Nova's appear from. If they knew where the Nova would attack they could deploy their forces faster in force these 2 ideas would make up for having to wait for girls being born who are compatible with stigmata s. Im just throwing out ideas its always fun when see where you add a little something to a story __________________ Last edited by Sinestra; 2011-09-27 at 16:12.

2011-09-27, 14:34	Link #1289
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	If Elizabeth had used her funnels, it would have been over right away cause she would have just shot her from the get go. she could read all of Amelia's moves. also, it would appear after reading the last few chapters over again, that Chiffon probably has a wicked side, such that when she fights for real, she greatly enjoys it. like in chapter 54, when she's like, "i wonder how strong they are!" its full of anticipation. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2011-09-27, 16:58	Link #1292
Kyouka Is Here Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 33	im loving this new chapter a day thing

2011-09-27, 17:45	Link #1294
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Spoiler for 57: uh-oh! I really get a bad feeling about this project.... looks like E-pandora will rebel... I respect the professor although she looks evil.... Chiffon's comment is funny... very funny.... hahahaha... Unparalleled monster... xD

2011-09-27, 18:18	Link #1295
ClawofBeta Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	The one thing I don't get about the E-pandora project is that the e-pandoras aren't really that weak. They're going up against the TOP Pandoras in the world. Seriously, if they just fight a plain old regular pandora (like say...I dunno, Ingrid, but even she is one of top Pandoras at West Genetics)) Amelia would have a fighting chance. Thanks for the raws by the way. I'm not quite sure if I should spoil it for myself or just wait until it gets translated (it's so far away though...)

2011-09-27, 19:56	Link #1296
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	Dayum... three chapters in three days. At this rate, we might even be caught up to the RAWs in mid to late October (RAWs are out to 73ish) __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2011-09-27, 20:49	Link #1299
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	... so about 20 days then, if this pace of a chapter a day keeps up. I knew we were into the 70's in terms of RAWs, but not the precise number. __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2011-09-27, 21:58	Link #1300
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	That smile, so much like our Stella...Amelia is definitely what Stella could have been if she wasn't accepted as an el Bridget. I really like Roxanne too - she's got a simple yet likeable personality and isn't afraid to voice her opinion on this and what she says shows quite a bit of thought behind it as well. I guess that Dr. Aoi is the 'status quo' for how the Pandora are trained and what dangers they face while in school, so everything related is put up against Dr. Aoi's 'measuring stick'. Kazuya must see how the other Pandora respect Dr. Aoi so whatever he feels his grandfather did, it better be actually something bad or else I might reach through the page and smack him. And this might be a lil late or even crazy, but is Chiffron not only #1 rank at Genetics Japan, but also #1 rank in the world...? I mean, I'm getting that vibe from everyone who's addressed her, even from the other top Pandora that we've seen - calling her by her title moreso than her name. Kinda like how in Rurouni Kenshin, his friends called him 'Kenshin' or 'Himura-san' while the other strong fighters near his level nearly always referred to him as 'Battousai'. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."