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The death or evolution of the sci-fi and mecha genres
MOD EDIT: This thread was split off from the Growing out of anime thread, as it really began to take a life of its own. This post was chosen as the split point:
Two genres are particularly dying: Mecha Sci-fi This is true regarding the space exploration type of stories. It seems as if the dream of going into outer space is dying for most people.
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Voltes V, Gurren Lagann, Mazinger, etc is classified as Super Robot genre. While Gundam, Code Geass, Patlabor, etc is classified as Real Robot genre. The one with Android army like Star Wars's clone is more fitted to Action Sci-Fi. Why? Mostly because, the bigger the mecha, the more nonsense things they make out. No one is questioning why Mazinger can simply transform into one giant golden fist. Now, imagine if Gundam RX-78 do the same. Basicly its about classification set by Japanese itself. |
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I believe that a similar thread exist in Gundam subforum. Well, the one completely dying genre is anime about musician (BECK, Nana, etc). Mostly nowadays it's about idols (Idolm@ster, Love Live, AKB0048). But i certainly love to see anime story about rock-band. |
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I would love to see more good sci-fi epics. I still love Banner of the Stars! Apparently there's just no market for it, though? Quote:
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Looking back on this post I guess it confirms my suspicion that I haven't grown out of anime as much as I feel like there aren't as many shows becoming very popular. I remember Code Geass being a huge, huge deal back in the day. Everyone was watching that show!
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Genji, G Gundam is a Super Robot anime. It means, they can get away with any crazy mechas they can churn out just like any super robot anime out there (eg. Gurren Lagann).
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Yes, the pods too, but then they need construction-vehicles with more power and durability and able to do more major works, so they created Mobile Suits. Considering those spacenoids were building enormous Space Colonies and mining on asteroids, they definitely need those MSs. But they didn't scrap the pods because they're still useful for little jobs.
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2013-02-26, 20:39 | Link #14 | |
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It's difficult to put into words. I think sci-fi and exploration has given way to supernatural and fantasy. Not just in anime but popular culture in general. I guess there is some kind of social need for escaping harsh reality instead of challenging it. |
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Which is exactly why this series now exists:
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So back in the 70s and 80s, concepts like "space exploration" and "robotics" were still very hot topics that wowed a lot of people, and greatly impacted on the world of entertainment. At the time, these concepts were seen as new, exciting, and dynamic. In the anime world, this likely contributed to the rise of mecha. But as time when on, people became more cognizant of the practical limitations of what we'd be likely to see achieved within our lifetimes. For older generations, this caused some dreams to fade. For younger generations, this caused a shift in focus to more immediate and impacting technologies like the internet and smart phones. Sci-Fi is still reasonably popular, but mecha, space exploration, and robotics have all taken a bit of a hit. A lot of the futuristic dreams people had back in the 70s and 80s simply never panned out, and that has shifted the focus of modern sci-fi works. We see this most clearly in the 80s Back to the Future movies. It's now 2013, a mere 2 years away from the 2015 future that Marty Mcfly experienced. For some reason, I doubt we'll be seeing flying cars and hovering skateboards take off within the next 24 months. Technology has become increasingly small, compact, personalized, practical. It is not big, flashy, and with noticeable mechanical bits everywhere, as humanity had previously dreamed it would be. So Sci-Fi works start to reflect that, and become a bit more restrained. Meanwhile, escapist entertainment now focuses more on fantasy and magic, where what the real world has to say about science and technology is less important. Mecha hasn't died, and there's still good mecha shows out there. But I think it's now more driven by nostalgia than anything else. Maybe this will change some day, as I've read reports of robotics technologies really taking off in Japan. But for now, mecha does seem in decline.
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Religious anti-intellectualism is also a big problem, but it's not one that directly affects the primary consumers of science fiction to begin with. The bigger problem may be Hollywood as it's one of the most pervasive proponents of anti-intellectualism (and really anti-science) while it still harbors credibility with potential fans.
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There hasn't been as much of that in recent years. I think this reflects how colonizing outer space and "living in the stars" no longer captures the imagination of people as much as it used to. Quote:
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But yes, it'll be interesting to see if the upcoming Spring mecha shows can turn the genre around. Still, there certainly hasn't been a mecha show on the level of Code Geass since Code Geass itself. Quote:
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