2013-06-26, 16:51 | Link #41 |
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I don't know how strong zetsu body is, but I remember obito actually coughed blood when kakashi punched obito's stomach in another dimension, and even obito commented that kakashi could have killed him had kakashi used raikiri....So i don't think zetsu body is that strong after all, especially after a long fought battle
and about izanagi, maybe kakashi's left eye cannot be implanted to the right eye XD Even if obito can implant kakashi's eye, i think you need tool to perform that operation. it's not a band-aid where you can stick it to the wound and consider it done And if it misses, all kakashi needs to do next is to teleport back to the real world, then obito will be trapped forever, Therefore i think there is reason for obito not to use izanagi
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2013-06-26, 16:58 | Link #42 | |
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He even told Kakashi than he might of won the battle, but he wouldn't let them win the war. He knew he was fatally wounded and wanted Madara to use Rinne Tensei. His last thoughts were of Rin. The reason he went through everything. The fact that Kishi made a distinction between the current and past Obito should mean that he will die without being redeemed. |
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2013-06-26, 18:39 | Link #46 |
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Madara is no idiot.He knows that without the presence of the Juubi to keep everyone busy he would have been sealed already.Even Seemingly op as edo tensi is, it has it's limits.What are they?not being able to ascend to the level of the 6p sage.
I felt a little bit bad for Obito,squirming in agony.Nothing ever goes good for him. |
2013-06-26, 19:54 | Link #47 | |
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2013-06-26, 21:50 | Link #48 |
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^True, though I still consider Obito's apparent lack of control over the rinnegan an at lease notable factor. He didn't make use of some of the most powerful abilities and instead seemed to rely only on the advantages he had in raw power and numbers. If Obito's proficiency with the rinnegan was around as potent as say, Edo-Nagato I think things would have been different. Anyway, the main point is that we haven't seen Obtio make much use of the rinnegan before, so I don't think it should be much of a suprise that he didn't make extensive use of it in this situation; I think its quite likely that his use of it is limited.
...Now that I think about it, I actually view Naruto's & co fight against Obtio using 7 jinchuriki's all with sharingan and rinnegan + unique abilities more unbelievable than Kakashi defeating a Kamuiless Obito. If there ever was a load of BS in this manga, that was it imho (well, at least one very good example). |
2013-06-26, 22:47 | Link #50 |
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There is nothing to indicate that Obito isn't proficient with the Rinnegan. He has displayed feats beyond what Nagato did several times particularly with his control over Gedo Mazo, stated he could use human path and we also know for a fact he can use the 7th Path since that's how he's supposed to revive Madara and the same can be said with his efficiency with Mokuton. And yet he barely ever made use of those and tried to stab his opponents with black stick and shuriken instead.
As I said it's nothing out of the ordinary since the author has forgone nearly all the power he gave him since the beginning of the war but it doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Last edited by Hunter; 2013-06-27 at 08:04. Reason: typo |
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2013-06-27, 01:33 | Link #53 |
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Feeling bad for Obito? The last few pages basically proved that all of this was for Rin. Now he's a bitter virgin about to be trolled by the same zombie he wanted to bring back-v-. Karma's a bitch ain't it Obi?
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2013-06-27, 03:57 | Link #54 |
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I feel like Madara's going to betray Obito. Madara is so self-centered. I feel like he really is doing everything obviously just to beat Hashirama. All of his hate has become this stupid unpredictable pile of irrationality piled together with a heap of power and now the Juubi that makes him into a monster.
I feel like he won't honor any of Obito's wishes. I didn't expect him to actually fully revive himself. This would make him weaker and it therefore confuses me. I guess I understand that maybe he needs to be alive to be a Jinchuriki, but I really don't see why... Also, maybe he's just cocky because he will have the Juubi... I feel like Tobi will be resurrected eventually if he dies here. I'm still bothered by the new Orochimaru. He must really be obsessed with what Sasuke does/chooses. (he must have low self-confidence ) |
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On the bright side maybe now Tobito will disappear from the war and at last we see the real evil-Madara who made this whole plan. It would be nice to see the faces of the 5 kages when they arrive on the battlefield thinking that this 2nd time they'll manage to beat Madara and then they realize that he had a huge powerup |
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2013-06-27, 12:42 | Link #57 |
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I have a feeling that the flashback of rin has to mean something. Maybe Obito will give his eye again to kakashi? That would be a good way to redeem obito before he dies, but I am afraid kakashi has no place to step in, as there are already too many powerful allies in the battlefield
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2013-06-27, 13:11 | Link #58 |
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He said he was weak when asked why he wasn't as strong as Madara, everybody but Hashirama is weak in comparison to that.
What you said is simply not true, Obito was a super-vilain who could eat Kakashi for breakfast without breaking a sweat and in fact that's what he did barely 30 chapters ago with only Taijutsu. He's the guy who intimidated Sage Kabuto with his army of Edo-Tensei, instantly erected an fire barrier that the Hachibi couldn't dent, who took on Naruto, KillerBee, Kakashi and Gai at the same time and who forced Naruto to use all of Kyubi's chakra to buff thousands of chakra cloaks in order to save half the Alliance from being roasted because of a single Katon. I also love how you phrased "he managed to survive using a stolen sharingan eye" to dismiss the fact that he can use Izanagi to a ridiculous extent, let me rephrase that correctly : he has a hundred Sharingan, each and everyone of them could make him invincible during 10 minutes. Yamato and Kakashi never stopped him from doing anything, he was there to talk and nothing else although his interest in Sasuke (supposedly fundamental for his plan once upon a time) fighting Naruto has disappeared into thin air. Last edited by Hunter; 2013-06-27 at 13:27. |
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