Madan no Ou to Michelia

[DragonOsman]

I agree with you there. Honestly, he deserves a great wife, and hopefully Guinevere will be it. It'll be much better than the fate he had in the original series.

[Ramero]

If Guinevere succed in taking the throne, then Roland will be King of Asvarre for sure.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by Ramero

If Guinevere succed in taking the throne, then Roland will be King of Asvarre for sure.

It might depend on Asvarre's laws of succession because in some cases Roland could be only Prince-consort at best.

Not to mention Asvarre-Brune relations and "politics(enemies of those countries will hate it for sure, there might be big opposition in both countries to marriage beetwen Roland and Guinevere and etc.)." Also I don't think that Brune would like to see Roland leaving Brune(if he become a king or even just Prince-consort, i don't think he could stay at Brune) because he's her mightiest knight.

Brune would have quite strong position if Roland married Queen Guinevere and that Tigre will become King of Brune and Zhcted in this timeline.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, that's true about Brune's position. I still want a True Harem in this one too, as well as Tigre becoming king of both Brune and Zhcted as the King of the Magic Bullet. But I want Brune and Zhcted to be merged into one in this series. It couldn't happen in the original.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, that's true about Brune's position. I still want a True Harem in this one too, as well as Tigre becoming king of both Brune and Zhcted as the King of the Magic Bullet. But I want Brune and Zhcted to be merged into one in this series. It couldn't happen in the original.

From my POV Brune and Zhcted merging would be most likely impossible, i could see those countries in Personal Union(Tigre's kids will continue his job) but i don't think that there will be Real union(or becoming one Kingdom) because resistance to that idea might be quite strong(Yeah, Brune and Zhcted are currently allies but it might change) because nobles in both countries would fear that other country might be prefered by new king and it might dominated junior partner.

Not to mention Vanadis thing(who are ex-officio rulers of major territories/duchies in Zhcted) that is unique to Zhcted and probably don't fit into Brunnish Dominance hierarchy(and don't have holdings there)

Brune and Zhcted would also prefer if Tigre's successor mother were person from their country(For example if we assume than Regin exists in this timeline, i think that Brune would prefer to see Regin as mother of next king than Mila, it would be similar in Zhcted case)

[DragonOsman]

That's all true. But in the original series as well, there's a chance that the two countries will become one after enough time passes (Tigre did become king of both countries). It'll likely just take many years, in both series.

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

That's all true. But in the original series as well, there's a chance that the two countries will become one after enough time passes (Tigre did become king of both countries). It'll likely just take many years, in both series.

True, but IIRC in OS Valery and Daughter of Eugene were made to be Tigre's heirs in Zhcted(To avoid conflicts).

In Brune i think it's most likely that Tigre and Regin's child will be their successor.


From review of Volume 18

Spoiler for Text of review:

Google translation

Tigre will be throne at the start.
Tigre decided to leave Valery's upbringing to Nastasha, the sister of King Viktor, who was also taken care of by Tina.
Nastasha is happy to take care of Valerie.
Tigre is planning to adopt Valerie and Eugene's daughter Aria, and give them their(Tigre's) throne.
Sofy agreed to this.
Valery and Alisa/Aria are grandsons of King Viktor and there is no pedigree issue.
Furthermore, if you adopt the child, you do not have to meet your righteousness at Zhcted.
This avoids the problem of collisions between Zhcted and Brune.
She also said that it was good news that their rivals decreased.


Original Japanese text


ジスタートでティグルが即位する事になります。
ティグルはヴァレリーの養育をティナも世話になっていたヴィクトール王の妹であるナスターシャに任せる事に しました。
ナスターシャは快くヴァレリーの養育を引き受けてくれます。
いずれヴァレリーとユージェンの娘のアリアを養子にして彼らのどちらかに王位を譲ろうと考えて います。
これにソフィーが賛成してくれました。
ヴァレリーとアリサはヴィクトール王の孫なので血統的な問題はありません。
さらに養子をとればジスタートで正妃を迎える必要が無くなります。
これにより、ジスタートとブリューヌの間で衝突する問題を回避できます。
彼女は自分たちのライバルが減るのも好材料と言っていました。

[DragonOsman]

Man, I really hope someone finishes up translations for the original series. I don't like the current situation. But yeah, looking at that, it does seem like it'll many years, maybe many generations even, for the two countries to become one if it's even possible at some point down the line. Tigre becoming king of both countries is certainly a start, though. I'd like for the Vanadis to become actual queens at some point as well, though. Their authority is meant to be second only to the king's in Zhcted, so it just seems fitting for them to be queens. Not to mention that if the Vanadis marry the king, their Viralts shouldn't ever leave them until they die since it means they've sworn full and undying loyalty to the king (and it's even better that it's the King of the Magic Bullet who is the true king that the Viralts answer to).

[Chingaruna517]

OK, I know it is getting bizarre but for whatever the reason, I received news from one guy named Nseika told me that the author may (or may not) creating a new timeline aside from this one. And this is not long after Michelia reaches the new story arc in regards of Asvarre Civil War. Welp here goes...

Spoiler for Possible new timeline (?):

Also, according to some source based on the translation...

Spoiler for Possible Summary:

魔弾の王 リム編とも言うべき『魔弾の王と聖泉の双剣（仮題）』が現在作業中です。
ティグルの敵は同じ魔弾の王に選ばれし者ということで、これまでとは違う敵との戦いに。
川口さんと意思疎通の取りやすい瀬尾つかさが執筆し、同じく全幅の信頼を寄せている八坂ミナトがイラストを 担当です

In the abridged version, according to Nseika's possible translation

Spoiler for Possible Summary:

• The main girl is possibly Lim who happens to be the user of Bargren, if the image character title is to be believed. The question however is Sasha herself is mentioned in the same book. Looks like fate isn't exactly kind to the legend either...
• The (temporary) title is Madan no Ou to Seisen no Souken (Lord Marksman and Twin Sword of the Holy Spring)
• Rival is the enemy King of the Magic Bullet and even enemy Vanadises. This, however, also begs the exact question: who is that enemy King of the Magic Bullet also shared Tigre's prowess? Could this be an evil Tigre or someone else? Is this is the beginning of the multiverse of all things? Speaking of multiverse, are we going to see the Original counterparts too?!
• The staff are include Seo Tsukasa (Script) and Yasaka Minato (Illustrator who also draw Kawaguchi's Seiken series), and the project will be green-lit by this year's September this year.

Anyway, what do you folks think?

[ThorPL123]

Originally Posted by Chingaruna517

OK, I know it is getting bizarre but for whatever the reason, I received news from one guy named Nseika told me that the author may (or may not) creating a new timeline aside from this one. And this is not long after Michelia reaches the new story arc in regards of Asvarre Civil War. Welp here goes...

Spoiler for Possible new timeline (?):

Also, according to some source based on the translation...

Spoiler for Possible Summary:

魔弾の王 リム編とも言うべき『魔弾の王と聖泉の双剣（仮題）』が現在作業中です。
ティグルの敵は同じ魔弾の王に選ばれし者ということで、これまでとは違う敵との戦いに。
川口さんと意思疎通の取りやすい瀬尾つかさが執筆し、同じく全幅の信頼を寄せている八坂ミナトがイラストを 担当です

In the abridged version, according to Nseika's possible translation

Spoiler for Possible Summary:

• The main girl is possibly Lim who happens to be the user of Bargren, if the image character title is to be believed. The question however is Sasha herself is mentioned in the same book. Looks like fate isn't exactly kind to the legend either...
• The (temporary) title is Madan no Ou to Seisen no Souken (Lord Marksman and Twin Sword of the Holy Spring)
• Rival is the enemy King of the Magic Bullet and even enemy Vanadises. This, however, also begs the exact question: who is that enemy King of the Magic Bullet also shared Tigre's prowess? Could this be an evil Tigre or someone else? Is this is the beginning of the multiverse of all things? Speaking of multiverse, are we going to see the Original counterparts too?!
• The staff are include Seo Tsukasa (Script) and Yasaka Minato (Illustrator who also draw Kawaguchi's Seiken series), and the project will be green-lit by this year's September this year.

Anyway, what do you folks think?

Looks like Lim's boobs were nerfed.


As for potential new series, i wonder if Michelia is selling well that Kawaguchi would decide to make another Madan no Ou spin-off.(if Michelia flipped, i think that he would focus on another series than making another spin-off)

If it's true, does that mean that Kawaguchi would be writing two Madan no Ou LN's(Michelia and this one) at the same time?

It would be great to see Lim as MC(and as "First girl' in harem).

"Enemy" King of the Magic Bullet is also very interesting idea, but it will depends on it's execution.

Personally i'm very curious about this "potential" timeline, because it's always good to see more of this universe.

[DragonOsman]

Two sets of the King of the Magic Bullet and Vanadises fighting each other is an interesting concept. I'd like to see it. Now, hopefully both the original series and Michelia get completely fan-translated soon.

I'm sad about Lim's boobs getting nerfed in her series, though.

[HOF69]

Any word on when the Michelia manga will be released?

[Ramero]

But then again, is that the continuation from original or another spin-off?

As for Lim, yeah, kinda sad her boobs is getting nerfed but i never see that kind of suit before.

[KnightShade]

>More madan material i wont get to read anytime soon

i dont see the nerf tbh. volume size looks the same, if anything the rest of her design looks different proportion wise due to the different illustration style. it's less that her boobs are smaller and more that they're more proportionate to the rest of her body as well as her age here.

[Chingaruna517]

Originally Posted by Ramero

But then again, is that the continuation from original or another spin-off?

As for Lim, yeah, kinda sad her boobs is getting nerfed but i never see that kind of suit before.

In my personal perspective, yes, this is yet another spin off but this time featuring Legnica (mainly because her original counterpart's involvement in defeating Ganelon alongside Elen and others) instead of Leitmeritz (original) or Olmutz (Michelia) or even Lebus. Man, I actually want Lebus in the story too since Liza is involved in Tigre's amnesia from the original timeline. Why can't we have that?

[DragonOsman]

Maybe we'll get one alternative series for each of the Vanadises. I'd still hope for a True Harem in all of them, though. I wonder if one will have Regin as the main heroine, or even one with Titta having that role.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Maybe we'll get one alternative series for each of the Vanadises. I'd still hope for a True Harem in all of them, though. I wonder if one will have Regin as the main heroine, or even one with Titta having that role.

If each of the Vanadises got an alternative series, wouldn't it get boring sooner rather than later? You're still dealing with the same world, the same factions, backstory, and much the same characters, just that one Vanadis is now the focus rather than the others. And a true harem in each of them would also take away from the Vanadis that is supposed to be the focus for each timeline.

Limalisha I would like to see more focus on, though. She's not the most significant character in the original series aside from hanging around Eleonora a lot, and that picture of her in a possible alternative timeline does look cute.

[DragonOsman]

I just think a version of Elen that doesn't hook up with Tigre, or a Madan series story where there's no True Harem ending would just be weird.

And besides, in both Madan no Ou to Vanadis and Madan no Ou to Michelia, the main heroine did get a lot of focus. Just look at how much focus Elen got in the former, and Mira in the latter also seems to be getting a lot of focus.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

I just think a version of Elen that doesn't hook up with Tigre, or a Madan series story where there's no True Harem ending would just be weird.

And besides, in both Madan no Ou to Vanadis and Madan no Ou to Michelia, the main heroine did get a lot of focus. Just look at how much focus Elen got in the former, and Mira in the latter also seems to be getting a lot of focus.

Madan no Ou to Michelia isn't over yet, is it? If it isn't, there's still time to see if Mira and Tigre become the OTP and the others leave Tigre alone (possibly even if the other Vanadises die or the like).

If each alternative timeline ends up as a True Harem situation then we'd know how the story ends in a way and it would take away some of the suspense of the narrative.

[DragonOsman]

The Madan no Ou also needs all of the Vanadis. So they can't all die and if they all fall in love with him then there should be a True Harem ending. And again, an Elen that doesn't fall in love with Tigre would just feel weird.