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But it's up to each person to believe what they want. As I explained numerous times, the reason why I choose to believe that Dominura is Onashia is because it strengthens the development of both characters, and as I said, dismissing it as a huge red herring without a true explanation makes the plotline regarding both characters a huge blunder. I'm curious as to what Kaoru Chujo has to say on this point, as one of the most devoted members among the Simoun fan community.
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If you want to base it on lack of development, I think Amuria is on the top of the list. Anything can be speculated. Amuria is the only one missing completely, thrown somewhere in time. It was also pointed out that Amuria and Aeru, who wanted to live eternally, were very similar and Amuria really wanted to complete the Emerald Ri Maajon. Naturally she would join Chor Dextra if given the chance. |
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I'm sorry, but I can do nothing more than to laugh. People who read my posts here know that I'm seldom disrespectful towards another poster, and that I'm open to different interpretations, especially when it comes to art. But when something as beautiful as Dominura's tragic development is simplified in such a hideous way, I can't do anything else but laugh--not a laughter of joy, though, because I feel you've watched Simoun and barely understood anything from it, or at least regarding Dominura's development. Loyalty to the Holy Land? Dominura's main motivation towards the end of her development as a character has to do with running away from her responsibilities! Limone piques her interest in such a passionate way because she represents defiance--one of their first interactions involves Limone telling her to "go away". Limone's initial development in the first episodes (due to Aaeru's influence) has her turn from a dutifully respecting child into a rebellious girl. Dominura is fascinated by this, because Limone represents her inner desire to run away from the pressure around her--which includes both the pressure from the church to complete the Emerald Ri Maajon and the social requirement of finally growing up and maturing, which is represented by the choice her gender. The main reason why Dominura is so fixated upon Limone is very probably related to the fact that the latter is still a child in every sense--she's not even an adolescent, and she lacks the responsibilities older people have to deal with. That's why, in the final conversation in the forest before their Emerald Ri Maajon, Dominura tells her that they're both alike. Limone is a child without responsibilities, and Dominura wishes to remain as one. Now, this whole circle regarding Dominura's development comes to a perfect close when we know of Onashia's fate for not choosing her gender and the final scenes of Dominura living in "another world" are shown, where she is getting weaker and ultimately begins to leave the same golden sparkles Onashia did. Dominura's story is a tragic one indeed, because, even if she's not Onashia, she ends up suffering the same demise. Now, I believe a much, much more beautiful and perfect way of soldering the relationship between Dominura and Onashia would be to consider them as the same character--you're free to believe what you wish, because the show doesn't explicitly pronounce itself in one way or the other. But, given the numerous hints we are give, I consider the show would be much, much more beautiful if we do consider that possibility. Quote:
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2008-06-04, 19:44 | Link #2827 |
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The glittering was never specifically shown to have come from Dominura, it could have been coming from Limone and Dominura as a couple, as far as I could see.
Also I'd say 2-4 years had passed since they'd landed in the other world, isn't it possible that anyone who doesn't choose a sex will start glittering eventually, but because Onashia was running away with nowhere to run to, she was chosen to be the keeper of the spring to make sure nobody else would suffer her fate ? The Dominashia theory is as crazy to me as Mikuru = Kyon's Sister, probably because I like to remain optimistic about the future of Limone and Dominura |
2008-06-09, 01:08 | Link #2828 |
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*is about to start watching Simoun*
I keep seeing this mentioned in "shows that more people need to watch" threads (it couldn't be as bad as History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi in this field, though; it seems like Simoun threads pop up on /a/ once every few weeks, where as Kenichi talk anywhere is kind of rare, and I definitely notice the latter more than the former when its around, since I like Kenichi a lot) and keep hearing talk about how likable the characters are, so I figured that I'd check it out. Of course, I have yet to see a lesbian animu that I really liked (unless you count Mai HiME, but Mikoto, Shizuru, and the glasses chick were all supporting characters with unrequited love, so I don't really consider that to be a lesbian anime), and I've seen people compare it with Last Exile in terms of how it tells its story (which I enjoyed, but more in a 7/10 kind of way... the story telling felt kind of slow for some reason; looking back, I don't think that I'd rewatch it), so... Also, Floe and Yun are hot. >_> I'll comment as I'm watching. Episode 1: -OP is exactly what I expected it to be from the look of the show: .hack mid-episode music-sounding OP. I always find these forgettable, even if I watch the OP a dozen times over the course of the series. -The king demands that all female pilots make out before takeoff! -The art style kind of looks like it was supposed to be budget friendly... -You're an idiot, Naviril. That's a fighter jet, and you're a guard. They're not maintaining the simouns (and paying for fuel if it needs it) and paying to train you and have you fly it just to "please the divine will". -Drawing magic seals in the sky with fighter jets. That's an interesting concept. -Hey, we're about to be shot down unless we do something. Let's make out. -Good job, Neviril. Your hesitation got your partner killed. -Sky diving without a parachute. -The others need to learn from Aearu's backbone. -This episode didn't remind me of Last Exile at all aside from both of them having planes as compared to mechs. Episode 2: -Aearu don't need none of your fancy magic seals to shoot the enemy down! -All people in Simoun come out of the womb female? I'm surprised that half of them chose to be men. Getting a sex change would be beyond awkward. -Persistence works. -"If I don't become a man, I'll limit my career choices!" Wow. That's a surprising thing to hear considering that they all start off as girls. Do they forbid women from some career fields in order to provide incentive for them to turn male? -You know, for constantly being praised for being beautiful, Neviril isn't all that hot. -Onashia looks evil. -Prepare to sprout a dick. -Don't worry. I'd cry too if my manhood was going to fall off and turn into a slit over the course of course of the next year or so. Episode 3: -Haven't really seen much of any of the characters except for Aearu and Naviril (like the former, indifferent to the latter), but I get good vibes from Floe and Morinas too. (I get dull vibes from the rest, though) Looks like this one is going to focus on Morinas, and she's with Floe in the OP... Morinas and Floe episode? -"If you want to become simoun sybyllae. you should walk proudly, without fear." You wouldn't guess that that was part of their code what with all of them cowering in the first episode and 3 of them running away afterwards. >_> -Actually, my opinion on Neviril is starting to border on dislike... -Now that I think about it, its kind of surprising that Aearu and Morinas want to pair up with someone that's pouting in their little corner. They both seem like the sorts that have no patience for procrastination Episode 4: -Paraietta is just jealous because she's not as likable or awesome as Aearu and Morinas. -You're so tasteless, Aearu. Morinas >= Floe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naviril. -Argh. Quit holing yourself up in your room and acting all self-important, Naviril. -Not quiet as good in hand-to-hand combat as she is at flying a simoun. -He's so sick that he even thinks in pained gasps. -Protip: Keep a gun on you in case you ever happen to crash near the enemy. -No, you standing there and yelling and waving your hands wouldn't make the ploy obvious at all if he were still alive to fall for it. -*Limone cowers and cries* This is why lolis don't belong on the battlefield. Episode 5: -Limone's been traumatized. -First an incompatible partner, then a traumatized partner who's not as good as she was a few days ago... Aearu's just not having any luck. -I like Floe otherwise, but she needs lighten up on Limone. -At least Floe's trying to empower her a bit now. -This is what you get for putting a traumatized loli in the pilot seat. Episode 6 -It would really suck to become a man in Simoun-verse... unless you get lucky, you're always going to have a girl's or little boy's voice. Even if you become rugged and muscular, you're never going to be truly manly. -The uptight tool X the glasses ***** that's a jerk to her sister. My OTP. -I can see a wrecked mental state from shock or grief or loneliness or something, but THAT'S why she hasn't continued piloting yet? It pretty obvious just from the bit that they showed of Amuria that she'd get on Naviril's case for not continuing to lead and pilot. -At least the glasses ***** has Neviril right. Damned spoiled brat. -Don't forget who you're talking to, Kaimu. Paraietta is Naviril's *****. -"I think she's probably lonely. Everyone must be." And having Naviril go back to being in command will fix that? Naviril may give them some organization, but she doesn't like the type that would help the group socialize and have fun. That seems like Aearu's, Floe's, and Morinas' territory. They're the cheerful social butterflies. Then again, I guess that Naviril back in command = they start getting missions = they stay busy + they start working together more = they're not lonely. -Kaimu's more likable when she's not interacting with her sister. Then again, she has a crush on Paraietta, so... -Incest, sister, test, etc. -She was afraid of betraying Paraietta again? That's even dumber, considering that Paraietta has made it clear that she'd prefer it if she continued piloting. -So she's given up on her? Does this mean that Paraietta is going to stop being a tool now? -You wouldn't guess that Aearu was any good in melee combat from the way that she got her ass handed to her by that fatally ill guy. So far, as far as yuri series go, it already has KnM beat just by having main characters that I actually like (I was always split on Himeko and thought that Chikane and Soma were merely decent; the only characters I liked were on the villain side), and it doesn't seem like its going to suffer from the same problem that killed YamiBou (boring lead and irritating antagonist), assuming that it doesn't REALLY shift the focus away from Aearu and onto Naviril, which I don't think it will. (I get the feeling that they're going to have the duel lead with equal focus thing going on once Naviril finally decides to stop moping, kind of like what Nanoha does, except with both leads being well developed) As of episode 6, Aearu's my favorite, though I like Floe and Morinas too, and Paraietta and Kaimu have potential to become likable. Limone is alright. I don't like Naviril... and for some reason, I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to dislike her for some reason or another throughout. 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2008-06-09, 09:52 | Link #2829 |
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All due respect, Bloodseeker,
But you're overlooking some important things here: The king does not command the lip-locking, the simouns do. The things won't fly unless the crew swaps spit. If your anticipated maneuver is a real gobstopper, shove your tongue down the auriga's throat. It could work. Naviril, you are not an idiot. You are a daughter of a privileged class (and you are sitting in that simoun because you are a member of that class) who is very good at offering Ri Maajon prayers to Tempus Spatium. That the pretty patterns have lethal consequences is not part of your normal workday. The simoun choirs have been used to swat down the occasional interloper, but now at least one nation has been driven to attempt a massive invasion and now your prieshood has "volunteered" your services, because your country, though offering rich rewards for your elite, does not possess enough poor people to slaughter their poor people, thus your leaders cannot maintain their power unless they prostitute your religion. You shouldn't be doing this, and even your head priestesses know this. Therein lies a central conflict in this story, which will be revisited time and time again. Some other conflicts worth mentioning: Scenes from the class struggle in Simulacra. You get a hint of this in ep #2 (the train ride), but is really gets in your face when Mamina shows up, and even more so when she leaves the series. Losing my friends: This could be my biggest gripe about the series. Nevril spends the next seven eps emoting over her lost Amaru, but the two girls who went down in the first combat are apparently chopped liver. They're not the last ones. Two more opt for the Spring, because this isn't what they signed up for, and they still have the right to do so. Losing my nation: Too many spoilers here, so sit back and enjoy the show, particularly ep#22. The "Defense Minister" gets an interesting "Hitler-in-the-bunker" moment, among other things. Losing my religion: Revisited at various times, particularly between Dominura and Waporif, the ongoing dialogue concerning the origin of the simouns, and the occasional interventions of a rival priesthood. If you have a Netflix subscription, rent out Piece of Cake, a Masterpiece Theatre production from the '90's. The parallels in the two stories are quite surprising, particularly when it concerns some warriors who find themselves dumped into the middle of a war. If you're a hisory buff, reflect on the Japanese experience in WWII, particularly as concerns the war in the Pacific. |
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2008-06-10, 01:59 | Link #2831 |
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Episode 7
-Man, that other Chor have sticks stuck up their asses. -This episode looks a little lower budget for some reason. -The simouns aren't all government property? That's a surprise. With the way that they refuse to let other countries have them and forbid people to take them apart, you'd think that it'd be illegal for a party other than the government to own a simoun. -Floe's partner isn't going to the spring until she gets her incest, dammit! -No, Alti. You're the cuter sister. You must remain a woman. -...And here's reason #3 why I started watching this show. Yun. <3 (the first two being the generally positive reception and Floe) -Covering up their religious symbols because it might offend the visitors... what a bunch of pussies. -"Hey everybody, I bet she'll say something like 'Chor Tempest, you don't live up to your reputation.'" I don't see why they find that funny. -And then they find it funny when she actually says it. "lol she says that we're shitty pilots and its true" -Aearu doesn't find it funny. -Its about time that somebody forced Naviril out of her room. Something tells me that she's going to continue to be a prick about it for a while, though. -Naviril refuses to bond willingly. Time for raep. -Goddammit Aearu. It was time for raep. You do not interrupt raep time. Mamiina agreed. Don't bother her about it. -"The new member attacked one of you for interrupting intimate raep bonding time. This team is disbanded." At least this pretty much proves that Neviril is about stop moping since Chor Tempest is done if she can't convince her father to take back his decision. Episode 8 -Its kind of odd how much strife there is between the chors. You wouldn't think that the groups would hate each other as a whole to the point where they refuse to hang out in the same room. -"We only flew these weapons capable of mass damage to offer prayers in the sky. We never considered the idea that we'd ever be called to use their mass damage-dealing capabilities in the case of an invasion." -Protip: Theocracies tend to make for unhappy countries with lots of unfair laws and mentalities. This is why most countries keep church and state separate. -Haha, "Plumbum". I'd hate to live in a country called Plumbum. -What a nice priestess. You can see that she clearly wishes for peace by the way that she's pointing a gun at Kaimu's back. -They really need to invest in some guns. This is the second time that the sybyllae have proven that they're helpless in ground combat up against an enemy with a gun. -Let me guess, Aearu sharing the same name as Plumbum's (I don't think that I'm ever going to be able to say or hear that without snickering) word for the highest form of love isn't going to be just because her parents thought it was a nice name. -Looks like Neviril's done sobbing in the corner. Good. Only took her 7 episodes. -Neviril telling Aearu to fight... role reversal much? Well, Aearu's just in shock from what just happened and probably because she remembered something (that reaction of hers is going to be really stupid if she reacted like that just because she shared the same as a foreign word for love), and she stood up and got ready to go quickly, so maybe not. Episode 9 -Its your lucky break. You get to be save the day heroes and gain leverage to help prevent you from being disbanded. What convenient timing. Is this what they call a Deus Ex Machina plot device? -Yeah right. They get a new leader and suddenly they're able to fly perfect formations. That's a skill on an individual level thing, not a leadership thing. -Does this have something to do with the stupid Japanese mentality of one member steps out of line = the entire group is stepping out of line? Because as far as I can tell, Mamiina's the only one that attacked anybody in the group and the others just restrained her and Aearu who was in defense mode. -"It was not a battle!" *facepalm* -Regardless, this is a dumb argument. They're hostile invaders. There's nothing evil about self defense. -She didn't even argue in favor of keeping the tempest chor together. Now if she had led that into argument that argued in favor of giving them slack due to emotional trauma or something rather than going on a rant about how priestesses are being forced to kill... -Has there ever been a minister-type character that didn't put an irritating emphasis on rules over practically? -"Heresy! One army slaughtering another army is NOT fighting a battle. Its praying a prayer!" Oh dear God. Brought in for a ridiculously stupid reason, giving a ridiculously stupid argument in defense (that wasn't even really an argument in favor of keeping the chor together; "BAAAAWWWW we lost comrades and we're priestesses that don't fight"; its almost like she didn't care if they got disbanded; you're a good friend, Naviril, putting ranting about your ideals higher on your priority list than keeping the chor together; and regardless of what she says afterwards, the only thing that she did there was tell the people in charge that they were wrong for making them fight), and then getting chastised for said argument for a ridiculously stupid reason. This is just ridiculously stupid. I want to beat the minister over the head. And all of the authority figures that thought that this hearing was justified. And the chor tempest for not making sure that they had all the facts and attempting to defend themselves from something that dumb. And Naviril for making such a ridiculously stupid argument. And the writers for using this kind of logic. (though maybe ruining the lives, careers, or hobbies of a group for the action of one or two members that weren't acting on behalf of the majority is viewed as justified in Japan for some stupid reason; Bamboo Blade did something like this too) Last edited by Bloodseeker; 2008-06-10 at 04:39. |
2008-06-10, 06:51 | Link #2832 |
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First of all, *AHEM!* you are on the last of 142 pages of discussion, wherein all details of the story are revealed and much discussed upon, so I can hardly claim to have stolen your innocence as regards Simoun. If you haven't read thru the previous pages, please take the time to do so, as some of the discussion is quite fascinating. What you say about rule by fear makes perfect sense if the story were being told from the viewpoint of the actual rulers themselves, but this story is being told through the eyes of the Chor priestesses, and the story is largely that of their progression from "light duty", in which their duties are almost exclusively pastoral, and there is an ethic to the occasional slaughter of some unseen interloper who is widely regarded as collateral damage, to "heavy duty", wherein the slaughter pretty much justifies itself. Please keep in mind that Simulacra has not faced a serious rival power in a long time, and because of this, they just aren't very good at war. The only significant force they possess, the Simoun Chors, are a bunch of oblivious little princesses who can still come and go as they please, even until rather deep into their story, and their irreplaceable aircraft, which their parasitic nation-state has literally dug up out of the ground (Dang! There I go again!). Until our story begins, the simouns of mass destruction have never been severely tested, therefore no aircraft have been lost, and no priestesses killed. There is an awareness of the destructive power of certain patterns, and there is dedicated research into the mystery of the helical motors (which may at some point have been partially solved) but their actual use in "battle" has been in very short, one-sided contests which more resemble the stamping out of vermin. Please respond to this as you wish. I suspect we agree more than we disagree as to whatever it is that makes the Simoun choo-choo go down the track. |
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Why do I get the feeling that the rest of the series isn't going to be free of the kind of stupid shit that the last few episodes had?
Episode 10 -You didn't just snatch their glory away, you snatched it away because one new member that had just joined like a day earlier was a little messed up in the head. -That's right, Mamiina. Its not your fault that you tried to rape Naviril, tried to kill Aearu when she stopped you, and ended up getting the whole crew demoted because Naviril's influencial father was looking for an excuse to disband Chor Tempest. (its kind of dumb how they're content to just accept that they're somehow all to blame for what happened, when pretty much all the fault from Chor Tempest's side lies with her, and she should have been the only one to take a fall; having the cast act that there's no unfair bullshit going on makes me think that the writers think the scenario was fair and reasonable) -But Rodoreamon's braids are ugly. -"Your performance was wonderful too, Naviril." No it wasn't. She just BAAAAAAAAWWWWWed about being forced to fight. She didn't even try to turn it into an argument in the Chor Tempest's defense. The way that they're portraying this, its almost like the writers think that she was making a good argument. -They really need to just forget about the whole trial and the circumstances around it. That was poorly done, and it doesn't seem like the writers realize it enough to turn it into something good. Episode 11 -How is it that Floe always gets turned down? She's the cutest member of the cast. -Not as if the Simoun looked all that cool to begin with. -I guess that Floe doesn't always get turned down. -"I'll protect you." And how exactly do you plan to accomplish that? Simoun aren't exactly precise weapons, and sibyllae fail as ground soldiers. Well, I guess that Simoun do have guns... -Stop acting like a little bitch, Mastif. Towns can be rebuilt. Floe and the other sibyllae just saved your ass. Episode 12 -But that's not as hot as Alti and Floe kissing. >_> And Paraietta and Kaimu are amongst the more unlikable/boring members of Chor Tempest, so its best if they get stuck together. -Looks like Kaimu's always an unlikable bitch when she's not interacting with Paraietta. -Yeah, you sibyllae typically fail pretty hard at ground combat. Its probably best if you don't get out and look around an enemy ship. -Somehow, Aearu seems like the better choice to get out and look around an enemy ship than Naviril. -So... you hate Alti because you made her sex you and then blacked out the fact that it was you that did it? -Is Kaimu going to make up with Alti and stop being an unlikable bitch now? Episode 13 -"Hey, let's do the technique that killed your old partner lol" "O_O D: D: D: D:" "Oh, right, you and your old partner weren't good enough to do it." "D: D: D: D:" "lolwut" -Floe fails at explaining what the problem is. -Aearu doesn't even know what romance is? -"*curls up into a ball* "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" No, Neviril isn't being overdramatic about this at all. -Oh boy, she even lost consciousness. So far, I have kind of a mixed opinion of this show... on the one hand, I like Aearu, Floe, Mamiina, and Morinas, and most of the others are alright, but on the other hand, Neviril, Kaimu, and Paraietta piss me off, and the writing gets on my nerves sometimes. Edit: http://character.biglobe.ne.jp/speci...oun/ninki.html *sigh* Why did I know that Paraietta was going to be popular and Floe was going to be towards the bottom of the poll? Way to put 2 out of the 3 characters that piss me off in the top 5. At least they got putting Aearu in first and Kaimu in last right. (well, maybe I'd put Paraietta a little lower than Kaimu... Kaimu's had a couple of scenes where she's hinted at being likable, where as Paraietta's been a constant bore/agitation) (of course, I'm only half way through, and Simoun likes to make its characters grow somewhat, but I just can't see Paraietta AKA Naviril's bitch ever becoming interesting or likable; at least Kaimu has potential to become likable if she starts acting how she does when she's bonding with Paraietta around the others instead of being a jerk) Last edited by Bloodseeker; 2008-06-13 at 07:43. |
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Oh, man, it's exciting to return to this thread after a long absence and see the rip-roaring discussion continuing, with many new names involved. I won't really join the discussion, because I think the million words I wrote when the show was airing two years ago exhausted my desire to talk about it, rather than just rewatch episodes now and then. It's still my #1 anime all-time.
I'm here to try to tempt people who like this show into trying an episode or two of the current show The Daughter of Twenty-Faces (aka, Nijuumensou no Musume; and Chiko, Heiress of the Phantom Thief). It's not yuri, although there are some moments in ep10 that could be misinterpreted that way. But it's a show with outstanding voice-acting, great relationships and character development, and an unusual story. I can't figure out how to describe the story without spoiling some powerful stuff in episode one, but you can find blog entries via Anime Nano, if you want. The reason it reminds me of Simoun is that it's a show I love and admire for its subtlety and freshness but that is getting very little attention either in Japan or abroad. It reminds me of when we decided in frustration that Simoun had to be subbed and started doing it ourselves. At least Live-eviL and sudo are already subbing Daughter of Twenty-Faces. I'm hoping that since I love it and loved Simoun, some others who like Simoun may find it interesting. It stars Hirano Aya, who is at her absolute best in it, far better than as Haruhi or Konata. More like her work as Layla in NANA. Intelligence, taste, and emotion. And the old pros that surround her are good, too: Uchida Yuya, Touma Yumi, Arai Satomi, Satou Rina and others. By the way, I will say a couple of things about the discussion. Although there are many things in Bloodseeker's interesting posts that I don't feel the same way about, it's refreshing to find someone else who likes Furoe, who got so little love when the show was on. Her VA, Aizawa Michiru, who was apparently only 13 when she did Furoe, has now shown up in the new OVA series Amuri in Star Ocean, which features 3DCG character design and a bizarre "story" involving lolis in space. And I don't mean spaceships, I mean hard vacuum. Makino Yui and Saitou Momoko are the other two stars.
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thoughts, and Dominura's eventual fate
I guess this forum is pretty quiet these days, but I thought I'd stick my oar in anyway. First of, I really liked Simoun. It's certainly one of my favorite TV anime series. I thought I'd mention that, because I'm about to be critical of some aspects of it.
I thought that what Simoun did well it did very well. I also thought that it was quite flawed in some ways. I like it a lot because I appreciate what it did well, but I am not quite as quick to let it off the hook for its failings as some people (though I do think it is one of the best anime series I've seen even given those failings). It's fine to say that it's primarily about the characters, but it promises to be about other things as well, and it breaks some of its promises. The only conclusion I can come to is that they were pressed for time and/or money, and that there was poor communication between the writers about some things. I can't help feeling that they wrote the show as they produced the episodes, and that they changed their mind a few times. I'd also be surprised if there weren't some serious disagreements between the writers that never got resolved. Spoiler:
EDIT: ANyway, after having criticized the series I should also praise it, as I really did like it a lot. My favorite part, by far, was the end of episode 8. I think that has to be on of my favorite sequences in all the anime I've seen. Not quite up there with the Mugen drowning scene in Champloo, but not far behind. That line of Neviriru's "tachinasai..." is just so great, and it's delivered so well. I care a lot about the voice performances and both Neviriru and Aeru were really well voiced, particularly in this scene. On a kind of geeky note, that line of Neviriru's really reminded me of Ochoufujin (Ryuzaki Reika) in the live action "Ace wo Nerae". She's a very similar character in some respects, and her speech patterns are similar too. Though they will never do it, if they made a live action Simoun the actrees who played Ochoufujin (Matsumoto Rio) would not be a bad choice for Neviriru. She doesn't look much like her, but who does? Ueto Aya from the same series has the physical look for Aeru, but unfortunately I don't think she'd be able to carry Aeru off. Last edited by duncan; 2008-10-01 at 21:08. |
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drama, science fiction, yuri |
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