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felix · 2006-07-17, 10:46

I don't really understand what you want... but... I think reading the first post of this thread will solve your problem...

Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-17, 17:45

For some reason, making borders method in the extended tutorial won't work out with me. When I do the steps, the border never shows. :/

Maybe is there another way or an answer?

felix · 2006-07-18, 00:38

Original comments...

Q. Which tutorial are you referring to ?

Maybe if I explained how things work... you’ll be able to figure out what you’re doing wrong…
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Tutorial...

Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part1)

The basic concept is that you make a selection. When your doing a simple border you want to select all the pixels in the image, so obviously the best method is to use the Select » All button. To create the border you need to have a nice little 1px black line on the inside of the selection so use the Edit » Stroke button with the location set to Inside (If you just installed PhotoShop then by default the location should be set to Center )... the location refers to the relative position of the pixels you want to add, so Inside means there will be a line of pixels placed in the inner edge of the selection, Outside means there will be a line of pixels placed on the outer edge of the selection and Center is a combination of these two, basically if you were to divide the number you enter as Width and use the result for a Inside and then for an Outside stroke you would get the same result as a Center stroke. (its size is specified by the Width number)

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Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-18, 16:11

Wow, I was doing something wrong. It does work now. Thanks.

But it seems I have to make a border for every frame, because it won't let me change the other frame borders.

felix · 2006-07-19, 10:54

@ Boo
> "But it seems I have to make a border for every frame, because it won't let me change the other frame borders."

Actually you don't need to...

Create a Empty Layer, move it so it's on top of all the other Layers in the Layers Pallet

If you had the top Layer selected then when you created the new Layer it should be place on top, since any new Layer is placed directly on top of the Layer that is currently selected.

OK enough babble about that...

Moving on...

Select the first Frame in the Animation Pallet.

Why ? - Because in Photoshop and ImageReady when you change something in a frame all the frames after it will be affected. So if you have a 5 frame animation and change the Visibility of some Layer (via the eye thing next to the layer name) in the 3rd Frame, the Visibility of that Layer in frames 4th and 5th will also change, while the visibility in frames 1 and 2 will remain unaltered.

When it comes to layers the rule is always: the visibility of any Layer has priority over the visibility of the layers bellow it.

Anyway... with your first Frame and the Empty Layer selected click on the eye thing next to the layer several times (2 times) to make sure it will be the same in the rest of the Layers, after your finished the layer should have visibility On if they dont, then you clicked more then two times you dumbass ... so just click one more time to make it visible

Now Select All then a Stroke and you should have a simple border for all your frames

Above I mentioned some steps that are pretty much useless, but you should be able to understand the process better that way

that and I had no idea what you were doing wrong

Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-19, 11:26

Wow, this helped! Now I can make the borders. I clicked it twice, no dumbass here. 8D

I followed the tutorial in this thread...
And, I saw the sticky, but I didn't look into it as much.

Finished Product:

Nina Wong from Mai Otome Materialising

That was a lot of help you gave me. I'll look forward to asking more questions if I need help to you.

felix · 2006-07-19, 14:10

Nice one...
Nina was one my favorite characters from Mai Otome...

Hope another Mai season comes soon :D... and more new shows XD...

If you have any question feel free to ask... but I can't guarantee I'll be the one to answer them :P

P.S. That Gif is 363k... so it exceeds the forum limits for avatars (100x100, 50k)

Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-19, 14:47

Thanks.
Yeah, I do hope it does continue.

It's not going to be my avatar, but come to think of it, another question!

How can I lower the file size?
Other than changing the file type and taking out un-needed frames. >.>

Shiryuu · 2006-07-19, 15:19

I don't use imageready that often, but I remember that you have to go to optimize view, then click on the menu (windows > workspace > optimization; or something like that), then just mess around with it until you can get it lower.

Green² · 2006-07-19, 17:32

It is optimized. Just that it has a lot of color changes per frame of the 70 frames. That at best, needed would be either less animation, or to go smaller than the 100 x 100 pixel dimension. For example,

...if wanting to not cut the animation.

Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-19, 19:57

Ah, I see.

That's a good GIF. xD

SweetSpring · 2006-07-20, 07:32

sorry...nevermind

ImperialPanda · 2006-07-21, 01:57

Thx for tut. Saw this set of rozalin images and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. My first gif. ;x

Deathkillz · 2006-07-21, 15:17

woo hoo my first animated gif

but the problem with it is that it is massive -.- twice the allowed size...how can i lower it? wht makes it soo large? grr...

felix · 2006-07-22, 13:15

This always happens...

This question has been answered in the Sig/Avatar tutorials by the makers [Index in First Post]

If you have any more question check to see if they haven't been answered...

Here... I'll make it easy for you...

==================== Index ====================

The Basics

* For the Step by Step total newbie guide to making Avatars please visit the...
How to make your own animated Gifs (ImageReady/Virtual Dub)
ImageReady comes with PhotoShop...
* To learn how to make borders... please read... Border To Animated GIFs Tutorial © Catgirls

* Do you have problems finding VirtualDub ?... please go to www.virtualdub.org

* Do you have problems opening AVI files in VirtualDub ?... please read This Post © Pellissier

* Do you need a FREE program to make gifs ?... go here http://www.gimp.org/

Links to more advanced stuff...

//Note : All entries in the index bellow have been placed in chronological order... it is recommended that you read the thread for troubleshooting information... or do a search...

If your question isn't answered in the thread please make a post here about it so people can help you ^_^

* * *

Legend...

Tutorials Dedicated to Reducing the Disk Size of your stills and gifs...
Special Effects Tutorial
Other Tutorials

Signature size problem... (common beginners mistake)... watch out for this or you'll get in trouble ^^

Index for the Sig/Avatar tutorials by the makers [Index in First Post] thread...
- Rounded Edge Tutorial © Yuiichi
- Pen Tool Tutorial © Dragonwingz
- Advanced Rounded Edges Tutorial © Yuiichi
- Shuffle Text Tutorial © Yuiichi
- Brushes Sites © Yuiichi[/COLOR]
- Cutting Render using Quick Mask Tutorial © Kira_Naruto
- Layer Blending Tips © Drake
- Filters Tutorial © Kira_Naruto
- Brush Background Tutorial © Yuiichi
- Color Up Your Signature Tutorial © Kira_Naruto
- Changing Colors Tutorial © Kira_Naruto
- How to do a (non continuos) Loop Tutorial © Pellissier with expansion by Kira_Naruto
- Rounded Border Tutorial © BlackCatXIII
- Resize Picture Tutorial © Catgirls
- Short-cut Tutorial © evil-samurai
- How To Make Complex Selections Tutorial © BlackCatXIII
- Optimizing Gifs Tutorial © BlackCatXIII with expansion by Kira_Naruto
- Advanced Optimization Tutorial © Riker
- Getting/Using New Fonts Tutorial © SweetHoney
- Getting/Using New Fonts Tutorial © BlackCatXIII
- Resizing to Gif size © Kira_Naruto
- How To Stop the Glue Effect... © Keios
- Inner Glow,Outer Glow © SweetHoney
- Some PhotoShop benefits... © BlackCatXIII
- Separating a character from e background © jevony
- Dynamic Optimizing Tutorial... © BlackCatXIII
  Go to last post made when this Index was created...
Index for other Tutorials... posted in other threads on the forum...
- Animated GIF Avatar Guide (BSPlayer / GIMP for Windows) © Green²
- Frame Problem Solution (GIMP/Irfanview) © Green²
- First Frame in Animation thing... © Uzumaki626
- Frame Capture Guide (Media Player Classic 6.4.7.7) © Green²
- Frame Capture Guide (Media Player Classic 6.4.7.8) © Green²
- How to put two animated sequences into one © Uzumaki626
- Standard Animated GIF Guide for GIMP 2.0 for Windows © Green²
- Adding Border © Wandering_Youth
- How to remove subtitles © Green²
- Image Capture Guide - ffdshow (build 5/1/2004) © Green²
- How to stop changes in the first layer from effecting the rest © Lone Wolf
- What programs can I use for Linux so I can make my own animated GIFs? © Green²
- Croing in ImageRedy © Kaitou.DarK
- Animated GIF Guide for GIMP 2.0 for Windows (GAP Edition) © Green²
- Cropping & Resizing under GIMP for Windows © Green²
- Help with Rm Rmvb files © Weasel29
- Borders in Gimp © Green²
- How to reduce frame rate © sarcasteak
- Palani's Guide For Horizontal/Vertical Scrolling © Palani
- Borders in ImageReady © sarcasteak
- Gifs in Mac © 1.0.7.
- Opening H.264 files © Green²
- Making Borders © Kira_Naruto
- Making Borders © Catgirls
- How do you cut the part of the snapshot you don't need? © Pellissier with expansion by Kira_Naruto
- Alternative Cropping Technique © BlackCatXIII
- How to crop different frames in different areas © Kira_Naruto
- How to resize without getting the pic become pixel © Amaranthine
- How to open mp4 files © Pellissier
- Optimizing Tutorial © BlackCatXIII
- How to make gifs faster © Keios
- Gimp Animation Package "GAP" © Green²
- Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part1) © BlackCatXIII
- Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part2) © BlackCatXIII

Bloo Hyakki · 2006-07-23, 20:59

Yeah, listen to BlackCat already. She'll get you somewhere. 8D

Deathkillz · 2006-07-23, 22:23

well sorry for being a total noob

but is the tutorial on making the gif smaller (bytes) on the "Optimizing Gifs Tutorial" section? just to make sure
oh and 1 more question...how do you select all the layers of a gif? like instead of clicking to delay 0.1sec for every frame i can do it all in just 1 go?

Shiryuu · 2006-07-23, 23:04

^ Select frame 1, hold shift, click on last frame, release shift.

Eruruu · 2006-07-25, 05:26

I was wondering, is tehre a way to remove subs from the frames we selected?

felix · 2006-07-25, 06:53

The soft subs (.mkv things) don't show in VirtualDub...
Some help in removing hard subs (.avi things) can be found in the index above... there’s a small entry...

Quote:

Anyway... the best way is probably to just use a RAW or to crop above the sub...

*goes back to thinking how to make the index easier to read...*

2006-07-17, 10:46	Link #421
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	I don't really understand what you want... but... I think reading the first post of this thread will solve your problem... __________________

2006-07-18, 00:38	Link #423
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Making Borders - Methodical Explanation. (part1) Original comments... Q. Which tutorial are you referring to ? Maybe if I explained how things work... you’ll be able to figure out what you’re doing wrong… -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tutorial... *Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part1)* The basic concept is that you make a selection. When your doing a simple border you want to select all the pixels in the image, so obviously the best method is to use the Select » All button. To create the border you need to have a nice little 1px black line on the inside of the selection so use the Edit » Stroke button with the location set to Inside (If you just installed PhotoShop then by default the location should be set to Center )... the location refers to the relative position of the pixels you want to add, so Inside means there will be a line of pixels placed in the inner edge of the selection, Outside means there will be a line of pixels placed on the outer edge of the selection and Center is a combination of these two, basically if you were to divide the number you enter as Width and use the result for a Inside and then for an Outside stroke you would get the same result as a Center stroke. (its size is specified by the Width number) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Go to Part II __________________ Last edited by felix; 2007-02-02 at 13:32. Reason: Reved & QC.

2006-07-18, 16:11	Link #424
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Wow, I was doing something wrong. It does work now. Thanks. But it seems I have to make a border for every frame, because it won't let me change the other frame borders. Last edited by Bloo Hyakki; 2006-07-18 at 16:21.

2006-07-19, 10:54	Link #425
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Making Borders - Methodical Explanation. (part2) *@ Boo* > "But it seems I have to make a border for every frame, because it won't let me change the other frame borders." Actually you don't need to... Create a Empty Layer, move it so it's on top of all the other Layers in the Layers Pallet If you had the top Layer selected then when you created the new Layer it should be place on top, since any new Layer is placed directly on top of the Layer that is currently selected. OK enough babble about that... Moving on... Select the first Frame in the Animation Pallet. Why ? - Because in Photoshop and ImageReady when you change something in a frame all the frames after it will be affected. So if you have a 5 frame animation and change the Visibility of some Layer (via the eye thing next to the layer name) in the 3rd Frame, the Visibility of that Layer in frames 4th and 5th will also change, while the visibility in frames 1 and 2 will remain unaltered. When it comes to layers the rule is always: the visibility of any Layer has priority over the visibility of the layers bellow it. Anyway... with your first Frame and the Empty Layer selected click on the eye thing next to the layer several times (2 times) to make sure it will be the same in the rest of the Layers, after your finished the layer should have visibility On if they dont, then you clicked more then two times you dumbass ... so just click one more time to make it visible Now Select All then a Stroke and you should have a simple border for all your frames Above I mentioned some steps that are pretty much useless, but you should be able to understand the process better that way that and I had no idea what you were doing wrong __________________ Last edited by felix; 2007-02-02 at 13:32. Reason: Reved & QC.

2006-07-19, 14:10	Link #427
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Nice one... Nina was one my favorite characters from Mai Otome... Hope another Mai season comes soon :D... and more new shows XD... If you have any question feel free to ask... but I can't guarantee I'll be the one to answer them :P P.S. That Gif is 363k... so it exceeds the forum limits for avatars (100x100, 50k) __________________

2006-07-17, 17:45	Link #422
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	For some reason, making borders method in the extended tutorial won't work out with me. When I do the steps, the border never shows. :/ Maybe is there another way or an answer?

2006-07-19, 11:26	Link #426
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Wow, this helped! Now I can make the borders. I clicked it twice, no dumbass here. 8D I followed the tutorial in this thread... And, I saw the sticky, but I didn't look into it as much. Finished Product: Nina Wong from Mai Otome Materialising That was a lot of help you gave me. I'll look forward to asking more questions if I need help to you.

2006-07-19, 14:47	Link #428
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Thanks. Yeah, I do hope it does continue. It's not going to be my avatar, but come to think of it, another question! How can I lower the file size? Other than changing the file type and taking out un-needed frames. >.>

2006-07-19, 15:19	Link #429
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	I don't use imageready that often, but I remember that you have to go to optimize view, then click on the menu (windows > workspace > optimization; or something like that), then just mess around with it until you can get it lower.

2006-07-19, 17:32	Link #430
Green² It's bacon! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Up and to the Left Age: 43	It is optimized. Just that it has a lot of color changes per frame of the 70 frames. That at best, needed would be either less animation, or to go smaller than the 100 x 100 pixel dimension. For example, ...if wanting to not cut the animation.

2006-07-19, 19:57	Link #431
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Ah, I see. That's a good GIF. xD

2006-07-20, 07:32	Link #432
SweetSpring Garden of Tsubaki Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2006	sorry...nevermind Last edited by SweetSpring; 2006-07-20 at 07:53.

2006-07-21, 01:57	Link #433
ImperialPanda Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US	Thx for tut. Saw this set of rozalin images and just couldn't pass up the opportunity. My first gif. ;x

2006-07-21, 15:17	Link #434
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	woo hoo my first animated gif but the problem with it is that it is massive -.- twice the allowed size...how can i lower it? wht makes it soo large? grr... __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-07-22, 13:15	Link #435
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	This always happens... This question has been answered in the Sig/Avatar tutorials by the makers [Index in First Post] If you have any more question check to see if they haven't been answered... Here... I'll make it easy for you... ==================== Index ==================== The Basics * For the Step by Step total newbie guide to making Avatars please visit the... How to make your own animated Gifs (ImageReady/Virtual Dub) ImageReady comes with PhotoShop... * To learn how to make borders... please read... Border To Animated GIFs Tutorial © Catgirls * Do you have problems finding VirtualDub ?... please go to www.virtualdub.org * Do you have problems opening AVI files in VirtualDub ?... please read This Post © Pellissier * Do you need a FREE program to make gifs ?... go here http://www.gimp.org/ Links to more advanced stuff... //Note : All entries in the index bellow have been placed in chronological order... it is recommended that you read the thread for troubleshooting information... or do a search... If your question isn't answered in the thread please make a post here about it so people can help you ^_^ * * * Legend... Tutorials Dedicated to Reducing the Disk Size of your stills and gifs... Special Effects Tutorial Other Tutorials Signature size problem... (common beginners mistake)... watch out for this or you'll get in trouble ^^ Index for the Sig/Avatar tutorials by the makers [Index in First Post] thread... Rounded Edge Tutorial © Yuiichi Pen Tool Tutorial © Dragonwingz Advanced Rounded Edges Tutorial © Yuiichi Shuffle Text Tutorial © Yuiichi Brushes Sites © Yuiichi[/COLOR] Cutting Render using Quick Mask Tutorial © Kira_Naruto Layer Blending Tips © Drake Filters Tutorial © Kira_Naruto Brush Background Tutorial © Yuiichi Color Up Your Signature Tutorial © Kira_Naruto Changing Colors Tutorial © Kira_Naruto How to do a (non continuos) Loop Tutorial © Pellissier with expansion by Kira_Naruto Rounded Border Tutorial © BlackCatXIII Resize Picture Tutorial © Catgirls Short-cut Tutorial © evil-samurai How To Make Complex Selections Tutorial © BlackCatXIII Optimizing Gifs Tutorial © BlackCatXIII with expansion by Kira_Naruto Advanced Optimization Tutorial © Riker Getting/Using New Fonts Tutorial © SweetHoney Getting/Using New Fonts Tutorial © BlackCatXIII Resizing to Gif size © Kira_Naruto How To Stop the Glue Effect... © Keios Inner Glow,Outer Glow © SweetHoney Some PhotoShop benefits... © BlackCatXIII Separating a character from e background © jevony Dynamic Optimizing Tutorial... © BlackCatXIII Go to last post made when this Index was created... Index for other Tutorials... posted in other threads on the forum... Animated GIF Avatar Guide (BSPlayer / GIMP for Windows) © Green² Frame Problem Solution (GIMP/Irfanview) © Green² First Frame in Animation thing... © Uzumaki626 Frame Capture Guide (Media Player Classic 6.4.7.7) © Green² Frame Capture Guide (Media Player Classic 6.4.7.8) © Green² How to put two animated sequences into one © Uzumaki626 Standard Animated GIF Guide for GIMP 2.0 for Windows © Green² Adding Border © Wandering_Youth How to remove subtitles © Green² Image Capture Guide - ffdshow (build 5/1/2004) © Green² How to stop changes in the first layer from effecting the rest © Lone Wolf What programs can I use for Linux so I can make my own animated GIFs? © Green² Croing in ImageRedy © Kaitou.DarK Animated GIF Guide for GIMP 2.0 for Windows (GAP Edition) © Green² Cropping & Resizing under GIMP for Windows © Green² Help with Rm Rmvb files © Weasel29 Borders in Gimp © Green² How to reduce frame rate © sarcasteak Palani's Guide For Horizontal/Vertical Scrolling © Palani Borders in ImageReady © sarcasteak Gifs in Mac © 1.0.7. Opening H.264 files © Green² Making Borders © Kira_Naruto Making Borders © Catgirls How do you cut the part of the snapshot you don't need? © Pellissier with expansion by Kira_Naruto Alternative Cropping Technique © BlackCatXIII How to crop different frames in different areas © Kira_Naruto How to resize without getting the pic become pixel © Amaranthine How to open mp4 files © Pellissier Optimizing Tutorial © BlackCatXIII How to make gifs faster © Keios Gimp Animation Package "GAP" © Green² Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part1) © BlackCatXIII Making Borders - Methodical Explanation (part2) © BlackCatXIII __________________

2006-07-23, 20:59	Link #436
Bloo Hyakki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Yeah, listen to BlackCat already. She'll get you somewhere. 8D

2006-07-23, 22:23	Link #437
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	well sorry for being a total noob but is the tutorial on making the gif smaller (bytes) on the "Optimizing Gifs Tutorial" section? just to make sure oh and 1 more question...how do you select all the layers of a gif? like instead of clicking to delay 0.1sec for every frame i can do it all in just 1 go? __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-07-23, 23:04	Link #438
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	^ Select frame 1, hold shift, click on last frame, release shift.

2006-07-25, 05:26	Link #439
Eruruu We'll meet again. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the land of Tusukuru.	I was wondering, is tehre a way to remove subs from the frames we selected?