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Old 2012-09-15, 08:32   Link #521
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There are some lingering questions in my mind after watching this episode:
  1. What is Seri's and Yuzurina's relationship? Also, are they working together or do they have their own agenda?
  2. What did Miyabi and Yuzurina talk about when they were alone? If Miyabi really did just talk about Shougo, it seems that she doesn't really have a problem with Yuzurina being the 'sister'. Surely, with the two alone in private she would've raised the question.
  3. Who was on the phone with Seri? An important character or some random henchman? It's almost definitely not Yuzurina, since she found and was talking to Miyabi and called Shougo right after.
  4. Why doesn't Mei at least tell Shougo that Yuzurina wasn't her friend from the past? All of her actions this ep points to Miyabi, but maybe Yuzurina actually was it?
  5. Why is Yuzurina in a hurry for Shougo to get with someone? It shouldn't really affect the scandal plot, and she's not specifically pushing him to one girl. (She was okay with both Konoe and Miyabi)
  6. Ikusu must have a motive for helping Shougo, or was hired by someone with the same motive. I wonder which it is and what motive?
  7. How does Rinka get away with wearing a dress like that with no one commenting on it?!

Also, Yuzurina got a bath scene. Bath scene in this anime so far = good person.
Well, to answer a few of your questions, like a poster above me said, the anti-Shougo group's goal is probably to try and get Shougo and his sister (most likely Miyabi) together, so they can then reveal the sister's identity and get Shougo caught up in a massive incest scandal.

Yuzurina says she spoke with Miyabi alone, but all Miyabi said was that Yuzurina found her. My theory was that they never really spoke at all, and that entire story was fabricated by Yuzurina to push Shougo towards Miyabi. Don't forget that Miyabi was off her face at the time, so she wouldn't be able to deny the story.

Miyabi, I'm sure, has her reasons as to why she doesn't want to reveal herself as the sister, and that's why neither she, nor Sagara have said anything. If anything, to her, Yuzurina's appearance is probably a good decoy away from her.

As for Ikusu, I had my doubts at first, but at this stage her being the sister seems quite unlikely. It's perfectly possible that she's telling the truth, and is in fact working for the Mikadono group to protect Shougo.
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Old 2012-09-15, 11:25   Link #522
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Well, to answer a few of your questions, like a poster above me said, the anti-Shougo group's goal is probably to try and get Shougo and his sister (most likely Miyabi) together, so they can then reveal the sister's identity and get Shougo caught up in a massive incest scandal....
I agree with this and the rest of your points. But throughout Shougo and Miyabi's time in the hotel room together, I expected paparazzi to come bursting in, and they didn't (unless there were hidden cameras).

As for Divini's final suggestion ("Also, Yuzurina got a bath scene. Bath scene in this anime so far = good person. "), that's true, but here's another statement that is also true:

"Bath scene in this anime so far = good cute person.
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Old 2012-09-15, 17:01   Link #523
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For the wealthy, educated young master of a mighty conglomerate, someone we were supposed to assume to be quite familiar with the insular, competitive world of the ultra rich, our MC sure is dumb as a rock.

Is it so hard, really, even in a straightforward harem like this one, to write a main character who actually thinks for himself even just a little bit? Ikusu basically had to act as his brain because he doesn't seem to have one. "Hey Shougo we got trouble. Seri-san's a traitor," "WHAT! OH NOES! TELL MOM, QUICK!" "Not yet boss, here's the plan..." "WHAT, WHAT!? OH NOES! I AM PANICKED!" "Sigh, just be careful," "ALRIGHT!" ...and he goes and reveal everything to his dear "sister" right off.

I wish Yuzurina all fortune for her coup d'etat against this incompetent fool.
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Old 2012-09-19, 10:14   Link #524
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Well, to answer a few of your questions, like a poster above me said, the anti-Shougo group's goal is probably to try and get Shougo and his sister (most likely Miyabi) together, so they can then reveal the sister's identity and get Shougo caught up in a massive incest scandal.

Yuzurina says she spoke with Miyabi alone, but all Miyabi said was that Yuzurina found her. My theory was that they never really spoke at all, and that entire story was fabricated by Yuzurina to push Shougo towards Miyabi. Don't forget that Miyabi was off her face at the time, so she wouldn't be able to deny the story.

Miyabi, I'm sure, has her reasons as to why she doesn't want to reveal herself as the sister, and that's why neither she, nor Sagara have said anything. If anything, to her, Yuzurina's appearance is probably a good decoy away from her.

As for Ikusu, I had my doubts at first, but at this stage her being the sister seems quite unlikely. It's perfectly possible that she's telling the truth, and is in fact working for the Mikadono group to protect Shougo.
This mirrored what I was thinking as well, another factor that helped was the fact that Yuzurina mentioned that the illegitimate child was his fathers scandal not his, which is strange considering, Seri was talking about Shougo's scandal which would be being in a relationship with Miyabi (if she is the sister).

As Yuzurina said at the end all the pieces are in place which makes it easier to see these little details.
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Old 2012-09-20, 13:52   Link #525
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Old 2012-09-20, 22:46   Link #526
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Well, Yuzurina in this new episode tried to put blame on Konoe in an attempt to push Shougo towards Miyabi. That in itself should raise a huge flag. I would not be surprised if someone was following them on the date, taking pictures. If it comes out that Shougo was in an incestuous relationship with his sister, that scandal will ruin him for role of president of the company.
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Old 2012-09-20, 23:02   Link #527
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As expected, more questions popped up than answers.

So Yuzurina was the actor of the little sister character. Maybe some incident happened that related to the production of the show which caused her to hate the Mikadono group?

Also, Shougo was thinking about how Miyabi "was a great swimmer in jr. high and was accepted into the school through a sports recommendation", which he thought was important enough to ask Rinka about. I just can't really piece what went through his mind there. I can only assume he caught on to some super important clue that revealed Miyabi as his sister, or something.

This is only my gut feeling, but it did seem like he treated Miyabi more as a 'long lost sister' than a 'potential girlfriend' during that date.
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Old 2012-09-21, 00:44   Link #528
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oh my still wonder if better get both maury's dna & lie detector test for all this?

give shougo dreaming being superhero while saving konoe while yuzu as little girl's hero sidekick only a dream?

give another still miyabi bit hmm, mrs.x doing lots of exhaust works to dig info on the coup, etc.

so yea shougo & konoe visit miyabi then later on shougo dates miyabi to fun time.

yet seem like yuzu seem saying about konoe make a lie yet seem look mrs.x might found something curveball twist.

1eps left wonder last thing to expect hey shougo you got more than one sister?
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Old 2012-09-21, 01:39   Link #529
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I can only assume he caught on to some super important clue that revealed Miyabi as his sister, or something.
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Old 2012-09-21, 03:05   Link #530
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Old 2012-09-21, 04:15   Link #531
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Wow, that's a really good guess and connection you have there. And here I was, thinking that Shougo was being an idiot this episode for suspecting the wrong person and listening to the one who wants to do him wrong. I guess I should never underestimate MC power.
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Old 2012-09-21, 09:35   Link #532
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Shougo is such a moron.

I wish Yuzurina succeeds in overthrowing him. Ikusu and Yuzu are the only characters I like in this series, and they aren't contenders.
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Old 2012-09-21, 11:42   Link #533
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Ikusu is WHAT Shougo should have been. Combine Ikusu's personality and intellect with Shougo's status, wealth and situation, and you have one heck of an awesome protagonist that would have made for a believable center of a harem lusting after his wealth. Too bad that for some strange reason, the Otaku's prefer the Anti-thesis of those kind of characters.
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Old 2012-09-21, 14:40   Link #534
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I hope he caught in the scandal, it would be lot more interesting XD
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Old 2012-09-21, 16:28   Link #535
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Ikusu is WHAT Shougo should have been. Combine Ikusu's personality and intellect with Shougo's status, wealth and situation, and you have one heck of an awesome protagonist that would have made for a believable center of a harem lusting after his wealth. Too bad that for some strange reason, the Otaku's prefer the Anti-thesis of those kind of characters.
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Old 2012-09-21, 19:58   Link #536
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Count me in on team "Ikusu should be the protagonist"

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Old 2012-09-21, 23:56   Link #537
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This show is actually pretty intelligent, it just starts from one of the stupidest premises you'll find. But it plays much of the gold-digger aspect straight and most characters actually pretty logical inside some really questionable situations. It's rather weird in that respect.
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Old 2012-09-22, 20:49   Link #538
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Count me in on team "Ikusu should be the protagonist"

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Yes, that would also fit with Miyabi being so depressed about it that she played sick for a few days, and Konoe saying that Miyabi looks like she was forcing herself.
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Old 2012-09-24, 06:18   Link #539
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Old 2012-09-24, 10:51   Link #540
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On the other hand, Konoe plays Shogo very, very well. Without that Imouto issue, Episode 1 may well have easily spiraled into a straightforward Konoe route.
I respect that aspect of Konoe and why I would love her to win, she really does win him over in rather subtle manner yet having a dominant presence. Episode 1 sold her to me though even if Shougo didn't want to take the route. I find her relatively refreshing in this harem compared to how some people think she is generic. On the other hand Rinka and Miyabi appear more generic to me.
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