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View Poll Results: Kanon - 2006 - Episode 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 137 | 69.19% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 38 | 19.19% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 8.08% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 2.53% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.51% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.51% | |
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2007-01-13, 22:10 | Link #201 | |
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I think you're confusing Hope and Mai together. They're different entities. Mai's powers became separate entities and became the demons. They were connected to Mai, so both can sense each other. Neither were in command of each other. When I said "saved", I was talking about how Mai couldn't get herself to open up to other people until Yuuichi kept his promise. Yuuichi kept his promise, which he proved at the end. That's not going to automatically change Mai's super-depressed state. Since Mai was saved, Hope felt it was alright to bring back Mai. However, she needed to make sure that Yuuichi will be there for her, so she asked herself. Basically, Yuuichi is needed to make sure Mai won't try to commit suicide again. If she did, there would basically be no point in reviving her. That's my interpretation. |
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2007-01-13, 22:20 | Link #202 |
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Considering all the interpretations and counter-interpretations I've seen here, Kyoto Animation did their job. They've got people talking about their product and hungry for next week. I can't wait until the next episode (again).
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2007-01-13, 22:51 | Link #203 | |
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2007-01-13, 22:57 | Link #204 | |
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Honestly, it's not that hard to figure it out. Cheers.
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2007-01-13, 23:05 | Link #205 |
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Man, you really are intending to pick at every little detail...
That question was meant as a tiny reminder to Yuuichi of what he promised, it's also just a small way for her to have him assure her, some people like that. It doesn't have any bigger, hidden messager to it...
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2007-01-13, 23:11 | Link #206 |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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@DanielSong39,
It's not about KyoAni taking elements from their presentation from the AIR anime to use in their adaptation of Kanon. It's about KyoAni using their distinctive style of animation to present Kanon, something that would probably be carried over into a KyoAni adaptation of CLANNAD, should they ever decide to make one. It's something you would have seen before in Makoto's finale in Episode 10, and it's something you will see again later on in a similar vein in the finales of the other girls. And I still don't see what you meant by drawing parallels from Ayu's arc to the Summer Arc. That simply doesn't make sense to me; they are two different storylines altogether. @USCPharmacist, You claimed you were not trashing the storyline, but that was how your previous posts portrayed it. If you think it's confusing, just say so in simple, understandable terms; the "mockery" you employed in the writing of your posts do not give your ideas a single ounce of justice. DD has the same thoughts as you, but you don't see me getting on his case like I do you. Why? Because he presents his thoughts in a coherent manner that invites serious discussion to the topic at hand, and that is something I can respect. Comparing Kanon to a mindless killfest like WOW is not something I can respect. That is not to say I entirely disagree with your ideas on the episode; after seeing it, I can see how it would be confusing to first-time viewers, too. What I cannot agree with is the way you presented your ideas; to me, it just smacked of "troll", and I know I've gained a reputation here as having generally less patience for trolls than the average forum-goer here, which is why I jumped on you. That said, I admit I have gotten too far ahead of myself, and have reviewed my own actions in hindsight. Therefore, I extend my sincere apologies to you for my negative behaviour. |
2007-01-14, 00:06 | Link #208 | |
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There was never an exact list of what evils escaped from Pandora's Box( or Jar, if you want to be historically accurate). There are however, some descriptions.
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Seriously though, I don't think we're supposed to draw upon Pandora's Box as an allegory for Mai's demons. There was no forbidden opening or curiosity involved; the far more crucial elements in order to present an allegory of Pandora's Box. Cheers.
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2007-01-14, 01:17 | Link #209 |
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Wow, you guys really search to the root of things. (Look who's talking )
Anyway, U1 said something like "by defeating them (the previous four demons), Mai's arms and legs have become paralyzed" and "when she defeats the last one, she herself will also end up dying together with it". So I assume the five demons represent her arms, legs, and heart. |
2007-01-14, 01:46 | Link #210 | |
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In any case, there's still many mysteries about Mai's arc I'm trying to sort out. It's actually quite confusing… |
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2007-01-14, 01:49 | Link #211 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I am willing to answer to the best of my ability should it be needed. Heh heh. To be honest, I've said this three times since my coming back full time, but will keep going with allowing it to remain out there. Heh heh.
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2007-01-14, 02:13 | Link #212 |
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Right now I'm just examining the illusion beasts. First, do the animals they resemble have any meaning? I was thinking they might be the zodiac animals, as I think I've seen a pig, bear, and rabbit. Those were in the zodiac, right? I think I also saw a lizard with wings, maybe that's a dragon?
I'm also still not sure what they actually are. I've speculated, but those are just speculations. Are they manistations of Mai's power, or were they created from Mai's power? Is there really a sixth beast, or was it something else? Had there been more monsters from before? Do the illusions actually represent something? If so, what do they represent? There's alot of unanswered questions. Although something I'm really wondering about is did Mai's power predict Yuuichi's coming, or did it make Yuuichi come? |
2007-01-14, 03:23 | Link #213 |
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@Meophist
Erm... We don't have bears in our zodiac =P (And to be picky, our dragons don't have wings either :P) I believe several posts back people were saying that they were manifestations, and Yuuichi even said it himself... Unless you're thinking that Yuuichi got it wrong...? =)
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2007-01-14, 03:31 | Link #214 |
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The bear isn't in the zodiac symbol. Tiger, Rabbit, Pig, Dragon, Ox is what I gathered. The last one that Mai jump off from the roof top did look like a dragon, but at the same time, it looked like a rabbit during the interior stairwell scene. There's also the chance that these demons can morph into different animal forms at anytime and at will, too, judging by their movements and behavior.
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2007-01-14, 03:56 | Link #215 |
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How can you possibly tell what they looked like? They're more or less invisible, and giving a specific description for something that's invisible is.... kinda... impossible unless you know that's what it is.
The blade that Mai used at the end (don't want to be too specific in case people haven't watched yet)... why wasn't there any blood on it? Did I miss something or was it just meant to be stainless? |
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2007-01-14, 05:30 | Link #217 |
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Great episode, although whether Mai has lost most of her powers remains to be seen. This has been a great build-up, leading to an even better conclusion to her arc, with story, animation, etc.
Still, I wonder how are they going to slip in Shiori. For one thing, if he's to spend time with her, Yuuichi's might have to pass on Sayuri's lunches. I'm looking forward to see how KyoAni will still keep Mai in the story after her arc is over, like with Makoto.
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2007-01-14, 05:36 | Link #218 | |
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2007-01-14, 06:04 | Link #219 | |
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U1: Argh, you're pretty heavy actually... U1: You got all the parts developed that you're supposed to. *(hand)chop* U1: I thought your arm couldn't move... Yeah, U1 is quite a pervert in the game. |
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