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Old 2010-08-20, 03:43   Link #161
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that would explain his dislike for Shinigami, since it was a Shinigami that dealt the final blow.

But no, the hundreds of fanfics out there clearly states that Ulqui was a boy wizard who had his father's raven locks and his mother's emerald eyes.
No, when the boy wizard died his hair got bleached white with the shock, he remained short and gained the powers of ice - I think you'll find that is the more written-about situation
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Old 2010-08-20, 04:31   Link #162
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I don't know why people are putting any faith in what Kubo supposedly said he's planning to do. For one, I'm not sure that even he knows what he's planning to do. And for another thing, just in the last several weeks in this forum I've heard numerous examples of "things Kubo said would happen" not happening the way he supposedly said (so-and-so will happen by such-and-such time, etc., etc.). He always has the option of changing his mind, and unexpected developments are pretty much guaranteed for a mangaka.

But I can't believe someone's quoting YouTube and the Bleach wiki as any kind of sources. With all the attention whores and numbnuts on YouTube, I'd have a hard time believing the site if it told me water was wet and had a video of Stephen Hawking and the Mythbusters performing an experiment proving it. So unless this YouTube "source" is an unedited video of Tite Kubo stating these claims himself, it might as well be me claiming it as truth.

And wikis can be edited by anybody. When they're edited by people who are biased for or against the subject (like diehard fans or trolls, two things the Bleach fandom has plenty of, due to sheer size, if nothing else), even provable facts can get skewed. Mistaken interpretation (if not outright fabrication) of something as easily misheard as answers in an interview is bound to be rampant, and that's not even counting the people who "think they heard it somewhere" and it ends up taken as Gospel Truth when enough people decide it sounds good.

Just take a look at the Wikipedia entries of Negima (or Haruhi, or most any other popular series with a sizable plot and a discussion-prone fandom), and see how much that "fanon" (in some cases it's theory that is taken as fact, in some it's rumor) has mixed itself in with the "true" facts. And that's on a largely neutral wiki. One that specializes in a certain series is really going to attract the kooks...
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Old 2010-08-20, 07:05   Link #163
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Actually, I have more faith in Wikis than in Kubo at this point.
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Old 2010-08-20, 07:58   Link #164
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that would explain his dislike for Shinigami, since it was a Shinigami that dealt the final blow.

But no, the hundreds of fanfics out there clearly states that Ulqui was a boy wizard who had his father's raven locks and his mother's emerald eyes.
...............YOUR RIGHT!!! a cero is Avara kerdavra!! and swords are wands!!! ichi even got a cape in ep 56!!! Aizen is voldamort with hair!!! it make so much sence now!!
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Old 2010-08-20, 09:32   Link #165
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from the way the last 50 chapters have been , I would say not trust either kubo or wiki , he prolly thinks of what hes gonna put in the next chapter on a weekly basis now
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Old 2010-08-20, 10:25   Link #166
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But no, the hundreds of fanfics out there clearly states that Ulqui was a boy wizard who had his father's raven locks and his mother's emerald eyes.
Aizen found Ulquiorra as a new spirit, helped him along to Vasto Lordeship, and kept his glasses (until he crushed them dramatically at the end of SS). That's why Ulquiorra has such a high regen factor - it's his magic helping him along
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Old 2010-08-20, 12:12   Link #167
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Is no one else pissed at the way Ichigo's inner battle was done? Last thing we saw was a fusion of his Hollow and Sword form, and nothing else? What is up with that, I was expecting some groundbreaking shit, like when he finally got control of his hollow powers, the whole King vs The Horse battle.

Personally I am steamed
That would've meant doing something different than Aizen trolling. And it's blatantly obvious that's not his forte.
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Old 2010-08-20, 12:14   Link #168
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how long do you want this arc to be? if kubo flashed back to a 3 month long battle while all this happened, what? we'd still be watching aizen's slow march to karakura town.
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Old 2010-08-20, 12:15   Link #169
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I don't know why people are putting any faith in what Kubo supposedly said he's planning to do. For one, I'm not sure that even he knows what he's planning to do...
Kubo has stated numerous times in interviews that he doesn't plan ahead. The source i gave is one of those:
http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/404497.html

"He's originally not the type to work out a plan, so he still hasn't decided on a concrete end to the arrancar arc."

This was right after Ichigo defeated Ulquiorra. And that was over two and half years after starting the Arrancar arc.
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Old 2010-08-20, 12:21   Link #170
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Alright guys I'm going to blow your minds

Who remembers Byakuya and Kenpachi?
Or Nell?
Or Orihime?
Or Kensei?
Or Grimmjow?
Or anyone other than Aizen?!

Kubo has 8000 characters but only gives screentime to two of them, and the one that gets the most is a villain
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Old 2010-08-20, 13:18   Link #171
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Or Unohana?

And why are everyone concerned with Ulq? I mean he was cool and all, but his character didn't have any depth and he served Aizen blindly like a dog. He died to power up Ichigo, I think it's an honorable death by the main protagonist in any manga.
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Old 2010-08-20, 13:30   Link #172
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Gin or itachi, hmm... hard to choose
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Old 2010-08-20, 15:09   Link #173
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Or Unohana?

And why are everyone concerned with Ulq? I mean he was cool and all, but his character didn't have any depth and he served Aizen blindly like a dog. He died to power up Ichigo, I think it's an honorable death by the main protagonist in any manga.
protagonist? protagonist...

you know, the arrancar and most of aizen's squad haven't actually done anything bad. the most evil one (by body count) was tosen, and it was really never implied that aizen fed all those souls to the hogyoku himself.

that's it! aizen is really tosen. would explain why they both end up like giant bugs.
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Old 2010-08-20, 15:28   Link #174
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protagonist? protagonist...

you know, the arrancar and most of aizen's squad haven't actually done anything bad. the most evil one (by body count) was tosen, and it was really never implied that aizen fed all those souls to the hogyoku himself.

that's it! aizen is really tosen. would explain why they both end up like giant bugs.
Well, Yammy ate a whole bunch of civilians the first time he showed up.
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Old 2010-08-20, 16:55   Link #175
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Ichigo looks a bit like Urahara there.
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Old 2010-08-20, 16:56   Link #176
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Well, Yammy ate a whole bunch of civilians the first time he showed up.
Civilians aren't people (just like low-level Shinigami) - they're part of the scenery, so they don't really count in the villainy statistics
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Old 2010-08-20, 17:28   Link #177
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"I can't get back what was taken from you."

"become a Shinigami and change things...without Rankgu having to cry."

What happened, did Matsu's vriginity get taken away?

(Yes, I know what it is, just j/k).
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Old 2010-08-20, 17:29   Link #178
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She must be the King's daughter...or storage person before Rukia. Or maybe not...there were 2 Hougyoku's >_>
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Old 2010-08-20, 20:00   Link #180
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I think there were two Hougyoku's and Aizen tried to make one, but it was not working at all, so he tries getting Urahara's "abandoned" Hougyoku.
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