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Old 2018-01-29, 05:44   Link #1221
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Yeah how could a being born from a concept have a gender after all. If it's true for Ophis, it's the same for Great Red.
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Old 2018-01-29, 07:05   Link #1222
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Actually, Great Red may not have a gender but Ophis takes on the gender of her current form at the time. "It" is gender-fluid, not genderless. Shapeshifter, remember?

@kidstandout: Yes, the soul is still human and Devil. But do also keep in mind that the main reason why the soul being part human is still limiting him is because Great Red and Ophis' powers haven't completely awakened yet. That's the main reason. Dragon Deification did strengthen him, though, and getting the new body also made a small improvement by itself, so he isn't crap anymore. Also, Ise's soul can be said to be a hybrid between a human, Devil and Dragon. As it is now. Ise is the Sekiryuutei as well, and it was said that the reason Gasper receives a huge power boost from drinking his blood, even prior to Volume 12, is because it's the blood of the Sekiryuutei. He already had some Dragon essence in him even before Volume 12.

Dragon Slayers worked on him even before Volume 12. They also work on Vali. The damage from them to Ise will be greater post-Volume 12 because his body is that of a dragon now.

Ise was originally crap to begin with because he was just a normal high school boy. His own words in Volume 12. All the training he's been doing since he became a Devil in Volume 1 plus the power-ups is all making him stronger, though.
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Old 2018-01-29, 07:16   Link #1223
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It was stated in My First Errand that Ophis has no gender and it can take on whatever appearance it wants.

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That’s right, this is a human shaped dragon-----can change its appearance at will. Right now it’s a human girl however, for this Dragon God, the concept of a gender is not present is what Sensei told.

Since it doesn't have a gender, Irina was bothered about it.
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Old 2018-01-29, 09:23   Link #1224
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Well, yeah, but she can still take on any gender and form she wants. Does that really make her genderless?
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Old 2018-01-29, 11:03   Link #1225
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Is Ditto not genderless just because it takes the form of the Pokemon it faces?(another Pokemon reference for you Bennia)
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Old 2018-01-29, 11:40   Link #1226
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I'm just saying that Ophis can take on the gender traits of the form she takes. Normally "it" is genderless (in its true form), but if it takes on the form of a man, then it'll really be a man. Right down to the reproductive organs and everything.
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Old 2018-01-29, 19:24   Link #1227
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The fact of the matter is that Ophis has no set gender thus making her genderless. Is Bikou gender-fluid in your opinion just because he can transform into Rias?
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Old 2018-01-29, 21:22   Link #1228
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Bikou is just a crossdresser, ophis and maybe even GR are genderless, or rather the concept of gender does not apply to them they may have existed before life with sexual reproduction started on Earth
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Old 2018-01-30, 06:20   Link #1229
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^Basically this. Bikou has a gender and he just crossdresses. Ophis and Great Red don't have a gender but Ophis can shapeshift.
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Old 2018-01-30, 07:13   Link #1230
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I bet Great Red can instead of shapeshifting, give the illusion he's another species.
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Old 2018-01-30, 09:38   Link #1231
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Ophis is probably just black power with the form of a giant snake. Hence it being able to take on any form it wants.
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Old 2018-01-30, 12:45   Link #1232
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Actually Issei did question if Bikou used magic to turn into Rias. As they couldn't tell them apart.
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Old 2018-01-30, 15:26   Link #1233
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Probably just his powers as a descendent of the First Gen. Sun Wukong. As in, Youkai powers or Touki.
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