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Obama, Netanyahu face struggle over Iran "red lines"
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2012-03-05, 08:16 | Link #19962 | |
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Edit - My spelling sucks.
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2012-03-05, 08:22 | Link #19963 |
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I guess I was a bit thermal. Continuous exposure to retards can be quite unhealthy. However I never like seeing, or even knowing that Kultuurkampf being so much a cool stuff nowadays. I can shrug it off with sarcasms most of the time but on occasions I just can't really help getting my button pushed...
@SaintessHeart : (On N.Korea) That move is certainly being directed to address domestic affairs, like usual. (On Billboard) There @Ascaloth : I was a bit thermal. But as hyperbolic as what I might have said is certainly not contradictory to Silverman's move, which is blatantly confrontational. There is certainly a bit of such spirit in there.
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2012-03-05, 08:26 | Link #19964 | |
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I have to assume that they'd know some touchy individuals will find such wording offensive.
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Additionally, I can find nothing in your previous statement that indicates you have pointed out any uncomfortable truth of the sort you mentioned, that people are being oppressed for their beliefs, religious or otherwise. Perhaps, you would be so kind as to enlighten me on how your omission of this particular point is equivalent to your having mentioned it? Quote:
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2012-03-05, 08:40 | Link #19966 | |
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2. Read the rest of the post which I edited after the board conked out on me. 3. I am fully aware of the plight of the people who practice some sort of system that is not Islam in countries like Saudi Arabia, who will cane you in public if they ever find you worshipping some deity other than Allah. Just because I fail to mention their plight and their efforts to change them does not blind me to them, but okay, I concede to not pointing out that point (the oppression, the efforts to fight them, etc.) in the first place, but yes I am aware. 4. Internet sarcasm is so cliche.
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2012-03-05, 08:51 | Link #19967 | |
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Seriously thought not everyone like me, or any religious person for that matter, would be in agreement of a religious leaders words and be distinctly selective towards it as opposed to someone with the same words but of a different world view. Words and language mean what they mean whether they come out of a priest, a rabbi, an imam or an atheist. An atheist calling someone a rapist carries as much weight as a religious person and vice versa. To put simply more trust in some person's claim merely on the pretense that s/he is a religious leader with a claim to moral authority without making you own intelligent judgment is stupid. I went to a more liberal (comparatively speaking anyway) for just that precise reason, as a Catholic who is personally at odds with almost fifty percent of the teachings of the Catholic Church. I'm not too sure about the ultrareligious whackjobs in your region, but you'd probably be surprised how many aren't as supportive of the clergy as the stereotype seems to suggest.
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Oh my, apologies. In my defense, it was an easy mistake to make.
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And to answer your previous point, I'll reiterate; just because there is a bigger issue to resolve in foreign lands, doesn't make any effort, however much easier and less dangerous it may seem, to be any less worthy. There is something to be said for cleaning house before focusing attention to other lands after all, as the unlucky souls stuck in that backward economic wasteland called the USA might attest to. Quote:
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Religious extremism is a scary thing, even the peaceful ones. I once tried attending church service in a very hardline church that was practically televangelism. That was the first time I really started to believe in people's willingness for mass hypnotism. Quote:
“Nowhere nor in anything, except in the assertion of the Church, can we find that God or Christ founded anything like what churchmen understand by the Church.” In a way I'd probably more akin to a Tolstoyan, since I'm usually more in agreement with Christian Anarchism that organized religion. I find myself ultimately answerable to God and not to men in cloth. I'd really just have to say that a lot of Christian extremists forget one of the most important passages from Luke (17:21): Neither shall they say, See here! or, see there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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2012-03-05, 09:17 | Link #19971 | |
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And putting your Appeal to Motive aside, thank you for admitting that you are in favour of censorship of free speech. Your honesty in this regard is much appreciated, and noted. Aye, I've had the same experience. Bad times, bad times. |
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2012-03-05, 09:39 | Link #19972 | |
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Judging from what the article has pointed out about their records, I won't expect much from them.
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2012-03-05, 10:04 | Link #19973 | |
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2012-03-05, 10:28 | Link #19974 | |
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2012-03-05, 11:27 | Link #19975 |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-rebels.html
Libya not gonna be so safe for Westerner for several years to come i guess
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a) They're purely that short-sighted and impatient believing that what they're doing is the most effective way to draw closeted atheists out in largest rate achievable and maintanable. b) They're purely that short-sighted and impatient believing that what they're doing is the most effective way to draw closeted atheists out in largest rate achievable and maintainable, by consciously trying to stir conflicts within the religious communities to separate the minerals from the ores, while simultaneously "demonstrate" how inherently palaeololithical religious peoples are and thus scoring ideological points over the unreasoned myth believers. Judging from how they behave, it's safe to decide on b). And not only their method will likely drive the religious more confrontational and close-minded, there also won't be much outflow of freed atheists coming their way, much less continuously, compared to what they could've achieved by building more compassionate public image. What they want is to ignite an epic confrontation where they can come out as victorious freethinkers with their rationally-based arguments unconfrontable by verses from books based on imaginary perceptions about reality, which will cause large scale abandonment of religion in favor of reason, which explains the level of their political sensibility and their grasp over how human socio-psychology works. Scenario a) demonstrates even less amount of those but at least there is no destructive intention in it (though will certainly bare the same result). They're gonna fail ultimately. And I don't like it when attempts to encourage people to use more of logic and reason to evaluate things (especially religion) end up in failure, especially when caused by the ironical use of methods not grounded on logical sensibilities, inspired by wishful teleological visions. All they will serve us with will be mind-degenerating flame wars that will lead us to nowhere, and I have been exposed to them at a frequency more then I need in a lifetime !
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2012-03-05, 11:47 | Link #19978 | |
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