2013-04-25, 20:35 | Link #1182 | |
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It makes for some nice cliche drama (which this anime does), but it also makes for bad critical thinking (which this shows also tries to do), and eventually gets written into a corner ( Seed destiny anyone?) The simple fact is because while it does sound logical, it very commonly does not happen. And anyone over the age of 8 has this gut feeling it won't turn out that way. Or we wouldn't of had all these world wars ya see... It basically boils down to, even if you have an overwhelming threat(?) in this case, and all the pirates/foreign power tries to make an alliance...well...it almost always end up the case, not everyone will actually hates the fact there is an overwhelming threat. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but a friendship doesn't have to be equal. What should have ended up happening, if Ledo did use overwhelming force to destroy the pirate fleet would cause a chain reaction. Everyone settles their bill, and splinters, some joining the winning side, some joining the opposing sides, some carving out a place for themselves in the power vacuum, some going "neutral"..and of course Gargantia enjoys a temporary reprieve of peace. Of course writers like tight cliche plots and lots of dramatic tension, so they of course need the "new enemy for this arc" model, which doesn't work with the above scenario. |
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2013-04-25, 21:35 | Link #1183 |
別にいいけど
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They have no guarantee that Ledo will stay with them forever. They might have a reprieve while he remains with them only to face war as soon as he leaves. Things will go as you say as long as they remain the dominant power, but then... the allies will lose interest in maintaining the alliance and the enemies will become bolder. And the worse they do to keep their enemies from attacking them, the worse they can expect to be treated when they will no longer be a superpower.
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2013-04-25, 23:25 | Link #1184 |
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Some people have noted the similarities between the Alliance and future America in Heinlein's Starship Troopers. If that's not a coincidence, then things will probably pretty ugly when they eventually show up. If you haven't read this book, here's a brief overview of the plot and its worldview (scroll down). Think about that worldview vis a vis the Gargantians'...
(And damn, I didn't know Heinlein was such a piece of work. Can you say "proto-neocon"? Hope Gen doesn't share his political views...) |
2013-04-26, 09:28 | Link #1186 |
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Wikipedia says there are a bunch of short stories on the official Gargantia website that 'further expand on the Gargantia universe', as below,
http://gargantia.jp/#novel I have seen the story on the above link, but unfortunately have little to no knowledge of written Japanese to know what the story is about. I would like to ask if anyone on this forum can fluently read Japanese, and if so, what does it translate to? Thank you. |
2013-04-26, 20:19 | Link #1187 | |
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... "Detection of volatile aroma compounds in excess of alliance standard value from the body of Takashi can" "...... I, whether smelly" unintentionally, I smell the upper arm and Sunsun. "Guess because you are away for long periods of time homeostatic system of our plane," "no ......" ... I didn't get it at first but Ledo was being translated as Toledo!? Ridget is "Rigid" ... |
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2013-04-26, 22:31 | Link #1188 | |
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Using my not-so-fluent knowledge of Japanese...
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2013-04-27, 04:50 | Link #1191 | |
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If I may ask, am I allowed to share this translation with other sites like randomc? Does the forum have any rules regarding sharing? PS. Ledo, you lucky son of a beech. -- ' 3 ' -- |
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2013-04-27, 07:06 | Link #1192 | |
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Although I've been out of practice for quite a while now, been over 5 years since I translated anything, real life keeps me too busy >.< |
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2013-04-27, 07:07 | Link #1193 | |
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"It appears that she wants you to consume the bird's carcass" almost seemed sarcastic.
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2013-04-27, 08:50 | Link #1194 |
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Chamber has sufficiently advanced sensory capabilities that he was able to identify individual pirates through solid walls from at least a kilometer away. You don't think that once or twice during the past several years that the thought "God, I wish he'd take a shower" never crossed his mind?
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2013-04-27, 11:00 | Link #1195 |
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The previous comments have got me thinking.
I can see it now.......Chamber and his fellow AI are only acting logical to appease the Alliance, they're just patiently waiting for the Humans and the Hideauze to exhaust each other then they go rogue on everyone and purge the known universe of organic life. PLOT TWIST Urobuchi strikes again Last edited by Raviel; 2013-04-27 at 12:25. |
2013-04-28, 07:47 | Link #1199 | |
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Chamber doesn't have the same level of snark as Jarvis. |
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