2020 US Presidential Election Discussion (primary & general)

[cyberdemon]

This email issue is getting hilarious. On one hand the left is calling it a disinformation campaign due to the dubiousness of the situation. So the fbi starts looking into it as a potential disinformation campaign and then the right cries foul that such an investigation is itself a disinformation campaign

[kari-no-sugata II]

I have vague memories of the 2004 election. After the "interesting times" in the 2000 election, it seemed like nearly everyone decided that the same thing would happen again in 2004. Only for it to be a very straightforward election result.

Wouldn't surprise me if 2020 is about as different to 2016 as 2004 was to 2000. Note, this has nothing to do with the party of the winning candidate. I'm only talking in the sense of how clear the result was.

[Sheba]

4chan being 4chan

https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/...95488565665793

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

I have vague memories of the 2004 election. After the "interesting times" in the 2000 election, it seemed like nearly everyone decided that the same thing would happen again in 2004. Only for it to be a very straightforward election result.

Wouldn't surprise me if 2020 is about as different to 2016 as 2004 was to 2000. Note, this has nothing to do with the party of the winning candidate. I'm only talking in the sense of how clear the result was.

Actually 2004 was very atypical in its own way. Kerry was winning all the exit polls and widely expected to win early in the evening. If there'd been a 35K vote swing in Ohio he would have won the electoral college.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Sheba

4chan being 4chan

https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/...95488565665793

That person is incredibly sus

[OH&S]

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[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by OH&S

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'N-No these emails actually help Biden!', bruh this is called delusion and you haven't heard Trump talk like that to his kids because his kids are not coke addicts.

You are aware that the Director of National Intelligence himself has debunked Schiff's attempts to dismiss Hunter's emails as Russian disinfo?

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

You are aware that the Director of National Intelligence himself has debunked Schiff's attempts to dismiss Hunter's emails as Russian disinfo?

Bootlicker makes unproven statements to cover (again) for his boss ass, film at 11!

[OH&S]

I remember when ramlaen used a similar argument when arguing that Trump didn't disband the pandemic team set up during the Obama administration; by linking to an opinion piece by a Trump lackey claiming he totally didn't disband the pandemic team .

Only for another poster to follow with a link to a statement by the head of the team that was disbanded to confirm that the team was indeed disbanded.

[Neki Ecko]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

'N-No these emails actually help Biden!', bruh this is called delusion and you haven't heard Trump talk like that to his kids because his kids are not coke addicts.

You are aware that the Director of National Intelligence himself has debunked Schiff's attempts to dismiss Hunter's emails as Russian disinfo?

Good Sir, you need help Serious help indeed. Biden's son did something wrong but he is trying to do his best and he has good support system like his dad on his side.

I really want to tear you apart on this because it happen to my dad because he loss his older son at the age of 18 and it is hard to cope sometimes (he is old school guy that loves his family, even know that he get on my nerves sometimes). So please just dont say anymore about this and move on.

[The Green One]

Why do you guys give ramlaen attention like this? It's what they want.....

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Why do you guys give ramlaen attention like this? It's what they want.....

Exactly. Trolls thrive on attention.

Plus, anyone who can look at Don Jr. and Eric and not see that they're serious cokeheads is truly delusional.

[OH&S]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Why do you guys give ramlaen attention like this? It's what they want.....

To be fair, I've had him blocked for months now and can only see what he says if someone quotes him. I very much recommend doing so considering how poor his takes are.

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by OH&S

I remember when ramlaen used a similar argument when arguing that Trump didn't disband the pandemic team set up during the Obama administration; by linking to an opinion piece by a Trump lackey claiming he totally didn't disband the pandemic team .

Only for another poster to follow with a link to a statement by the head of the team that was disbanded to confirm that the team was indeed disbanded.

Since we are apparently going to gaslight, perhaps you can tell us whether the team was disbanded or merged into another team they overlapped with.

Originally Posted by Neki Ecko

Good Sir, you need help Serious help indeed. Biden's son did something wrong but he is trying to do his best and he has good support system like his dad on his side.

I really want to tear you apart on this because it happen to my dad because he loss his older son at the age of 18 and it is hard to cope sometimes (he is old school guy that loves his family, even know that he get on my nerves sometimes). So please just dont say anymore about this and move on.

Your critique would hold more weight if it didn't require you to remove the context of Pakmen's attacks on Trump and his family, but you were never going to hold him (or Guardian Enzo for that matter) to the same standards.

Originally Posted by The Green One

Why do you guys give ramlaen attention like this? It's what they want.....

Originally Posted by OH&S

To be fair, I've had him blocked for months now and can only see what he says if someone quotes him. I very much recommend doing so considering how poor his takes are.

If your response to being factchecked with citation is to call me a troll...

[Sheba]

Just when you think they couldnt get more childish https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/sta...544339969?s=20

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Exactly. Trolls thrive on attention.

I think you are mistaking the species. Ramlean is a minion, not a troll. He comes out of his resonance bubble brimming with fresh kool-aid, hoping to convince the internet to vote trump, or at the very least, to not vote for Biden & the democrats.

I take everything he writes like a pulse of what millions of 'murricans truly believe atm; it is as if the president asked all his followers to take of their clothes and walk outside their houses. We will be talking about this four years in the decades to come like people talk now about the 60s (but people in the wrong who were alive back then at least might say "I was stoned the whole decade").

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

'N-No these emails actually help Biden!', bruh this is called delusion and you haven't heard Trump talk like that to his kids because his kids are not coke addicts.

You are aware that the Director of National Intelligence himself has debunked Schiff's attempts to dismiss Hunter's emails as Russian disinfo?

And which the fbi refuses to confirm or deny such a statement which means they are still investigating and don’t want to give out false information. Trump likely just pressured him into saying it to make it look more real because he needs the controversy to get re-elected since he is falling further and further behind. Many former intelligence officials have almost outright said otherwise.

[James Rye]

The movie Borat 2 just got more interesting, lol. XD

[cyberdemon]

Never even saw Borat 1 but I kinda want to now lol

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

And which the fbi refuses to confirm or deny such a statement which means they are still investigating and don’t want to give out false information. Trump likely just pressured him into saying it to make it look more real because he needs the controversy to get re-elected since he is falling further and further behind.

The FBI refuses to comment on their investigation of the content of the laptop because it contains photos of naked underaged girls, not because they are concerned that the laptop (which has been confirmed authentic by multiple sources) is Russian disinfo.

Many former intelligence officials have almost outright said otherwise.

None of these supposed former officials are willing to publicly state so, I wonder why? Almost as though they are yet another of Schiff's lies...

Originally Posted by James Rye

The movie Borat 2 just got more interesting, lol. XD

Funny how twitter allows fake news to spread while suppressing verified stories from major media outlets.

https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/stat...01450597396480

I have now seen the scene with Rudy Giuliani and though it is creepy for other reasons it is being described on twitter in a false way. He does not have his hand down his pants in a sexual way. He is tucking his shirt back in after she untucks it removing his mic.

Also the bat thing is a joke she prompts and he just politely agrees.

The scene is confusingly edited for comedic purposes which makes sense since this is a comedy film and not a 60 Minutes expose. It would be good to keep that in mind in light of the flattening of media where everything can seem like everything else.

There are parts of this scene that are creepy though! In the same scene he pats her on the lower back in a very weird way. You will be able to find stuff you don’t like watching it. But I do not think the description of the “hand in the pants” thing is fair.

This is a Motherjones journalist by the way, far from a right wing pro Trump pundit.