(L) Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu

[Defade]

Number on the right is cumulative. Left is within a week.

44 **,401 **1,480 *2 伝说の勇者の伝说 第1巻
41 -- *1,149 **1,149 *1 伝说の勇者の伝说 第2巻

DVD/BD sales need to go up by another 4000 for a second season.

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by Defade

Number on the right is cumulative. Left is within a week.

44 **,401 **1,480 *2 伝说の勇者の伝说 第1巻
41 -- *1,149 **1,149 *1 伝说の勇者の伝说 第2巻

DVD/BD sales need to go up by another 4000 for a second season.

Doenst look likely. And this show is sort of very confusing with too much stuff thrown in it gets hard to understand which doesn't help its popularity.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Defade

Number on the right is cumulative. Left is within a week.

44 **,401 **1,480 *2 伝说の勇者の伝说 第1巻
41 -- *1,149 **1,149 *1 伝说の勇者の伝说 第2巻

DVD/BD sales need to go up by another 4000 for a second season.

First week sales of BDVD DYD1 sold less than BDVD DYD2? That's rare. How long has DYD2 been out though?

It's hard to hope for a massive snowball effect with these kind of numbers, but if it can show an increment over volumes, maybe there's hope.

Maybe.

[Defade]

It's been out since 11/25, but I can't seem to find any numbers beyond first week.

[Bombo]

8/10
I really like it this series and great ending in S1

When the S2!!? Any news for it?

[-Sho-]

I enjoyed the show. Give it 7/10 .
Last episode was confuse but well , maybe a 2nd season and i hope for that.
Seems like Ryner only knows Izuchi. But that was a touching moment with Sion.
Ferris too was great. New clothes at the end. Wow , there are dango shops everywhere :O ^^
Open ending.. need moar..

Question : Who was the sorta "goddess" in Ryner ?

[Kenagalaz]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

REVIEW TIME !!!

note: My opinion stated here was formed as back as the third episode and never changed along the way.

Spoiler for wall of text:

Legend of the Legendary Heroes… what a silly name. Like Greenery of the Green Vegetables or Bitterness of the Bitter Dark Chocolate. If names are supposed to attract people to an anime, then this sure does not help. I mean check out Slayers. Such a simple and direct name. There is even a band named after it. Yet in both cases the names are actually deceiving the viewers rather than preparing them for what they are about to watch. There is nothing epic in the first as there are no fountains of blood and gore in the second. What kind of a trolling technique is this anyway?

The similarities don’t end in the name-trolling alone of course, as Epic of the Epical Epicness is in fact 50% like Slayers. That is, a medieval comical adventure about imba wizards and warriors strolling the countryside trying to save the world one goof at a time. Well what about the other half then? Is at least that original? Nope, it is just a dried up version of Legend of Galactic Heroes (Sion is Reinhart, Ryner is Wenli) about several intrigues and power struggles amongst royalty for the domination of the world. And look at that, even that anime had “Legend” in its name. Do I see some accidental plagiarism here?

Anyways, Great of the Greater Greatness is for me a half-breed. Half Slayers and half LoGH that is. And on paper it sounds like the stuff of legends (oh, the irony). I mean, if you take the political intrigue of LoGH and combine it properly with the zany comedy of Slayers, you have an optical orgasm.

Well, the producers were unfortunately first timers and thus there was no orgasm in the final product. Just a half baked story about something that is left half-done. Yeah, we might as well cut all words in half, to fit with the rest of the show. Something like Leg-O-th-Legend-Her. Ah, that’s more like it!

STORY SECTION: 3

The story is in a nutshell about some dudes looking for some super items in order to help their friend to be a peaceful yet powerful king. Do they succeed? I have no idea as the story will be continued in egend-f-e-ary-oes.

So the story is a half-breed and half-done. Any half other than that? Why yes, it is also half-interesting. You see, a lot of episodes will be wasted on totally minor events and the others will have a really weird way of jumping back and forth in time and space. And I’m not talking about time travel, the narration is simply done without proper transition from one time frame to another. So what you basically have is a series about unfitting segments. On scene one, Sion is talking seriously with some scheming aristocrats. Suddenly, the scene changes five days later to Ryner, who will bored and half-asleep on a tree. Then the scene changes to ten years in the past where Sion and Ryner fight assassins who are chopping of the heads of their friends. Then the scene changes to fifteen years in the future, where Ferris eats dango and verbally torments Ryner. And then… the anime ends in the middle of… um … nowhere I guess.

If you got half of what I just wrote so far (oh, the irony 2) then you can easily tell the story in fact LESS than half-good.

CHARACTER SECTION: 5

But who cares about the story if the characters are great, right? I mean, who needs a story in K-On? If the cast are moe, comical, or bijin enough, most won’t even notice the objective of their adventure. So, are they legendary in anything like that? Nope, they are again half-interesting (damn that persistent irony!)

Let’s check the main characters. There is an aristocrat who is thrown in a middle of a power struggle amongst aristocrats. There is an imba friend of his who wants to help him. And there is a token bimbo.
… um, not much, is there?

What they are really good at is that they are a colorful bunch. Heck, half the duration is spent on getting to know them. In a slow and almost overkill way. What they eat, what they drink, what their favorite color is, how they fold a napkin and so on. Jeez, it really is like K-On in this regard!

But no, in reality it is also about an adventure where they are supposed to receive development and catharsis in the end of the road. Which of course they don’t because as I wrote (and hopefully it is amongst the half of which you still remember) the story is left incomplete. You will get to know a lot about their development up the present through numerous dialogues and flashbacks. But very little about their future because of the missing second half.

So all you are left with is:
-Sion, a dude with similar ambitions as Reinhart but hardly someone who achieves anything solid
-Ferris playing it cooldere and eating a mountain of dangos (Togame, cough)
-Ryner, a dude with a laser beam eye (no kidding) who is too bored to care about anything, yet gets to stroll around the world looking for magic trinkets and battling random goons with his Geass eye (Lelouch, cough) and inner demon releasing (Hollow Ichigo, cough). The series of course calls it Alpha stigma instead of Plot Armour, so who am I to judge that?
Originality, wanted dead or alive for 100.000.000 Belly.

So as you can see, the cast is really a vivid bunch but not something you haven’t seen before and definitely not one fully looked into. There are others who exist as support of course (too many for its own good) but who cares if the main ones are not good enough. Most are too minor to even bother with.

ENJOYMENT SECTION: 3
But enough with all those halves. What about the adventure itself, is it good or not? Well, on paper it could be good if it was handled more properly. Like, with less time jumps and more action. The story is otherwise quite average in concept (go find magic trinkets to save the kingdom from evil) and the action part makes little to no sense. Not only there is too little of it in a series that it’s supposed to be “legendary” but it also has too much randomness. Random spells, random results, random power levels. And for Pete’s sake, what is the age advisory on this anime? One moment they are doing slapstick, the exact next they are beheading and gutting people alive. Jeez, where is some consistency in all that? It’s like two people were writing the script, an 8 year old girl-scout and an 18 year old heavy metal dude.

ANIMATION SECTION: 7
And now let’s talk a bit about this unimportant section most viewers pay too much attention to. It is good; the world building looks great with the medieval setting and all. Castles, uniforms, lightning look good. They are otherwise not exceptional in any way. Not artistic, not unique, not too smart in cinematography. The battle choreography sucks big time with all the random spells and power imbalances, while body motions felt slow as if the characters were bored to move around.

SOUND SECTION: 7
Another minor thing I rarely have much to talk about. The music score left me completely indifferent. Sound effects were ok I guess. Voice acting… Damn, so many dialogues about so many events I hardly cared about. They are also good too I guess. The only two voices that stand out are of course those of Ryner and Ferris. Ryner has the same voice actor and the same imba power in the same spot as “another very famous character” (anyone got any cough drops?). He was a major bait for most fans of “that other anime” and I’m sure most were greatly disappointed with this far less interesting character. As for Ferris… shit man, she is the otaku bait. A cooldere eating dango and slap-torturing poor Ryner. Need I say more? She is quite typical as the tropes go but who ever said otakus look for originality, hm?

VALUE SECTION: 1
What reason would anyone have to keep this anime in his collection? Apart from collective value or lack of elitism that it. None! Really, I mean it, none at all. It is messy and incomplete and slow and typical. All its good parts can be found in spades in Slayers and LoGH. Maybe if they ever make a sequel and create a Kai version of this, then we are going somewhere. Otherwise, it is a waste of time for veterans and just an average time killers for casuals.

Mediocrity of the Incomplete Typicals. Now that’s a more fitting name.

Average: 4.3 / 10

LOL, you keep using that word, 'irony' but it obviously does not mean what you think it means.

If you actually know what irony means and know how to actually use it in a sentence, or like sophisticated light novels, like Saiunkoku Monogatari, Twelve Kingdoms, and Guin Saga, then you might like this story.

On a very deep level, the story is a very depressing tragedy. This story balances the dark underlying theme by humor that take itself less than seriously, initially at the superficial level, including the title. The author of this story takes these initially superficial elements (jokes) and grows (evolves) them into cornerstones of the plot and character development. This plot is further woven by a almost parallel tragedy that took place in ancient times that unfolds as the story progresses. The end result is a unique literary experience that poetically balances humor and tragedy.

If you don't know the meaning of irony, only enjoy plotless sh*t blowing up, or genuinely believe Code Geass was made before Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu, then yeah, you might not like it, especially because the author of this story employs a plethora of literary devices to push the plot forward, one of which is tragic irony, which for the unsophisticated is perceived as; "Damn, so many dialogues about so many events I hardly cared about." It is also ironic that this poster incorrectly calls unexpected coincidences as "irony", yet actually fails to identify the true irony in the plot of the story.


On another note, I do wish they had expanded more on the Goddess of Fate in Milky that fell in love with the Lonely Demon. Did anyone put together the voice that read that short story at the beginning of ep24?

[larethian]

all I can say is that this story is not meant for kids wwww.
well, as a supplementary comment, the title sounded that way only because of the translation in English. it didn't really sound that silly to me in Japanese. not that it was translated poorly, since I've given some thought but it didn't turn out that good. The Mythology of the Legendary Heroes? The Legend of the Mythical Heroes? The Lore Behind the Legendary Heroes? whatever.

and Sho, Ryner knows tons of spells, just for your info.

[Tennyo777]

Originally Posted by Kenagalaz

LOL, you keep using that word, 'irony' but it obviously does not mean what you think it means.

If you actually know what irony means and know how to actually use it in a sentence, or like sophisticated light novels, like Saiunkoku Monogatari, Twelve Kingdoms, and Guin Saga, then you might like this story.

On a very deep level, the story is a very depressing tragedy. This story balances the dark underlying theme by humor that take itself less than seriously, initially at the superficial level, including the title. The author of this story takes these initially superficial elements (jokes) and grows (evolves) them into cornerstones of the plot and character development. This plot is further woven by a almost parallel tragedy that took place in ancient times that unfolds as the story progresses. The end result is a unique literary experience that poetically balances humor and tragedy.

If you don't know the meaning of irony, only enjoy plotless sh*t blowing up, or genuinely believe Code Geass was made before Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu, then yeah, you might not like it, especially because the author of this story employs a plethora of literary devices to push the plot forward, one of which is tragic irony, which for the unsophisticated is perceived as; "Damn, so many dialogues about so many events I hardly cared about." It is also ironic that this poster incorrectly calls unexpected coincidences as "irony", yet actually fails to identify the true irony in the plot of the story.


On another note, I do wish they had expanded more on the Goddess of Fate in Milky that fell in love with the Lonely Demon. Did anyone put together the voice that read that short story at the beginning of ep24?

If this board had a "Like" button for comments. I would have pressed it 10x for your rebuttal here!

[-Sho-]

Originally Posted by larethian

and Sho, Ryner knows tons of spells, just for your info.

Yes , i don't doubt that but , until now , he just showing a lot of Izuchi or the speed spell.

[Tennyo777]

Originally Posted by -Sho-

Yes , i don't doubt that but , until now , he just showing a lot of Izuchi or the speed spell.

Ryner uses Izuchi a lot because it easily incapacitates people, but doesn't kill them. Unlike Kuuri, Kurenai, Mizumi, ect... which are all more destructive than he sees as necessary to handle most situations; since he hates hurting people.

[SoFarGone]

people these days are into that K-ON moe stuff so I doubt many people would buy this.

[libba]

I can't believe that just one person said Sion is similar to Berserk's Griffith. He's like that guy's younger (and less badass) brother. He looks the same, save for eye color. He talks the same, sometimes down to exact sentences. He even used to dress in a similar way. I'm not even talking about his dream. There are a few scenes that look almost like a direct reference.
It doesn't even look like a similar character archetype or a coincidence, it looks like an homage of a sort.

[giorno]

well, let's see here:

Sion is willing to sacrifice anything, including himself, for the sake of others(the world at large in this case)

Griffith is willing to sacrifice anything, including the world at large, for himself

but other than that, yeah, they're similar................

[libba]

Well, we don't know what Griffith needed his "castle" for, he might have wanted to change the world, too. But what we know is that he thinks his goal is above everything. He is willing to sacrifice himself, too - it is explicitly said that one has to "sacrifice a part of their soul". But this is irrelevant on this anime's thread. He appears to be much less altruistic and kind-hearted, I'll give you that, and much less of a pacifist.

Just think about the rest:
- exotic physical appearance, completely, save for eye color - check (they could be brothers easily)
- strategist, "chessmaster", and warrior at the same time - check (that was a military academy after all)
- behaves nicely towards people he dislikes while making plans to deal with them - check
- courteous and mannerly even when in a state of rage - check
- cold-blooded and smart - check
- rises through the ranks of an "old world" fantasy country despite being a commoner - check
- hated because of this - check
- barely avoids being killed by court types, escapes via bloodshed - check
- adored by common people, uses it for extra influence - check
- makes speeches about dreams while basking in sunlight - check
- obviously has no close friends at first, only subordinates and people to use - check
- draws people to him because of his angelic charisma and is aware of it - check
- willing to stop at nothing to reach a high, pretty much unrealistic goal - check
- says things like "I want you, and I'll have you" - check
- hides his true emotions - check

It's incredible. I've never seen such an open similarity.

[Tiberium Wolf]

9/10. One of the best series of 2010. I just hope that there is S2. I have 1 complain is the art of the ep that Tiir appears. Horrible art. I wish ppl would stop experimenting.

[Master_Yoma]

Sigh anther crap ending why does anime like this end up like there going to be anther season but never will. Just when war start is end what crap I give this a 5/10

[FlavoryFantasy]

Ferris really changed throughout the season so that was nice to see.
Though I was so confused on what was going on, mainly of course with the final episode. It didn't really seem to be much of a point for Kiefer showing up...just took down a bridge for Ryner & Ferris. =\ The story with the hero and lonely demon was interesting to say the least though.
Well I'll give this a 6/10...
DVD/BD sales definitely aren't that good. Seems like no hope for second season?

If so onward to the LN later I guess. Thanks in advance to larethian & Defade for translating it!

[iceyfw]

i'm sure most people are just as confused as i am for what just happened in the last episode. all i'm going to do is cross my fingers and hope a second season comes along. even though it's been almost two years since ZEXCS did the anime adaption for chrome shell regios and still no news of season two anywhere. perhaps Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu shall suffer the same fate.

[mechalord]

The thing going for this anime is that it's simulcast by Funimation. It was released in Japan w/ North American licensing already sold to Funimation.

In the North America it's getting the DVD release w/ dub. It will get play time on Hulu and Youtube, most likely. It all adds up. The series may end up cable and satellite TV channels.

I hope there is another 20+ episode second season, too.