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View Poll Results: Aldnoah.Zero - Episode 19 Rating
Perfect 10 12 19.05%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 23 36.51%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 15 23.81%
7 out of 10 : Good 8 12.70%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 1.59%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 1.59%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.59%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.59%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 1.59%
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Old 2015-02-21, 18:24   Link #141
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The god of butthurt?
I would love to see that .
Slaine hasn't reached that level of that level of butt hurt just yet. In fact I have never seen a character reach the same level of butthurt as Bizon.
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Old 2015-02-21, 18:27   Link #142
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I don't understand the sudden loyalty from the nobles to the princess in this ep. If the princess is so powerful (due to activation factor) that a mere speech is so effective in consolidating all vers nobles under Slaine, why couldn't she consolidate power in and stop vers from attacking earth before coming to earth in season 1? Heck, why couldn't her grandpa consolidate power (his call for orbital knights to stop attacking earth and go back to mars was not obeyed)?
because it would be logical
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Old 2015-02-21, 18:39   Link #143
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I don't understand the sudden loyalty from the nobles to the princess in this ep. If the princess is so powerful (due to activation factor) that a mere speech is so effective in consolidating all vers nobles under Slaine, why couldn't she consolidate power in and stop vers from attacking earth before coming to earth in season 1? Heck, why couldn't her grandpa consolidate power (his call for orbital knights to stop attacking earth and go back to mars was not obeyed)?
A lot of the nobles are loyal to the crown, but they are also realists. If what the royals say and order is not in their best interests, then they kind of ignore it and do what they want. They seem to like "Asseylum's" new agenda, so they go along with it.

Most of the knights scoffed at Asseylum's trip for peace in the beginning and they did they best to disuade her from it. But she's a 15-year-old naive princess, let her have her fun. However, now, she's talking their language so they pay attention.

As for Rayregalia, he's basically a dead character at this point.
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Old 2015-02-21, 18:44   Link #144
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I don't understand the sudden loyalty from the nobles to the princess in this ep. If the princess is so powerful (due to activation factor) that a mere speech is so effective in consolidating all vers nobles under Slaine, why couldn't she consolidate power in and stop vers from attacking earth before coming to earth in season 1? Heck, why couldn't her grandpa consolidate power (his call for orbital knights to stop attacking earth and go back to mars was not obeyed)?

What kind of magic trick did Saazbaum pull?
Its a combination of an increased respect after her rescue, and the fact that her throwing her weight behind Slaine, who was already a rising star, was a major power play that they can't get around.

Before the war she was respected insomuch as the knights liked to invoke her name when it suited their needs.

As was basically flatly told to the count who was just rescued from Earth (Vers names are hard for me to remember).
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Old 2015-02-21, 18:48   Link #145
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Shooting Inaho when he realizes his closeness with Asseylum and running away at the mere mention of Inaho's name in this episode.
Being precise, he didn't run away for the mere mention of his name. Asseylum was remembering the time she was observing birds with Inaho. So, considering Slaine's major moments with her were all about birds, well, it wasn't my intention to use it, but it's sound as a middle case of NTR the writers put up there
My concern at this point is about Edrrenrizzo loyalty. She looked sadden looking at the blue roses.

But definitely all my sympathy to Lemrina. As I already said, she looks as a good kid, she is just trying to survive along with people who are just using her. It is a similar position of Slaine with the difference that when the occasion rose, standing before her defenseless rival, she instead didn't pull the trigger. For that reason there's still hope for her.

In any case, it was a long wait, but apparently the horse is out of the barn finally, I was waiting for it
Mixed feelings about Asseylum temporary memory loss. I'll give a pass to this since Slaine had to do his things after all.


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slaine genocide dick move made this anime dozen times more interesting than "vers of the week" episodes till the end. thats more than enough reason to NOT complaining about his dick move. he is the savior of aldnoah. imagine aldnoah without slaine? boring.
I agree! You need to build up such an antagonist if you want to make things interesting. If you plan to have a character like Inaho you have to.


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Its a combination of an increased respect after her rescue, and the fact that her throwing her weight behind Slaine, who was already a rising star, was a major power play that they can't get around.
And also because she is furthering what they were waiting for so long. Conquering Earth. So, that kind of loyalty.
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Old 2015-02-21, 19:00   Link #146
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I feel kind of sorry for Slaine. His kind of alone now and is becoming rather bitter about it. Plus his a

I really wanted the fight to start earlier, so i donít have to wait till next week to see it. Since it three M-Kats and two landing castles, I think that the earth team may have to retreat.

While she doesnít have full amnesia, Asseylum isnít all there but she is remembering things. I hope it doesnít get take the rest of the season.

Mazuurek is also back in his castle but canít do anything. And Barouch seems to support Slaine dispute not liking what happened last episode. Hopefully Mazuurek can still be used in the plot.

On the earth side. Marito escorting Mag. Isnít that interesting.
Anyway is seen that the Earth commanders arenít to bright. Seeing as they donít take the Deucalion and the declaration all that serious. Dispute the results the crew has given them.
Also I think this is the first times since episode 15 Calm had some screen time.
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Old 2015-02-21, 19:06   Link #147
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I feel kind of sorry for Slaine. His kind of alone now and is becoming rather bitter about it. Plus his a

I really wanted the fight to start earlier, so i donít have to wait till next week to see it. Since it three M-Kats and two landing castles, I think that the earth team may have to retreat.

While she doesnít have full amnesia, Asseylum isnít all there but she is remembering things. I hope it doesnít get take the rest of the season.

Mazuurek is also back in his castle but canít do anything. And Barouch seems to support Slaine dispute not liking what happened last episode. Hopefully Mazuurek can still be used in the plot.

On the earth side. Marito escorting Mag. Isnít that interesting.
Anyway is seen that the Earth commanders arenít to bright. Seeing as they donít take the Deucalion and the declaration all that serious. Dispute the results the crew has given them.
Also I think this is the first times since episode 15 Calm had some screen time.
I think someone needs to heal Slaine's heart or be around him
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Old 2015-02-21, 19:21   Link #148
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I think someone needs to heal Slaine's heart or be around him
I think that will probably happen. He's standing at the abyss now and sees no other way of going other than forward. However, despite all the people who want Asseylum to yell at and leave Slaine, that's not her nature. She'd rather die trying to save him from himself, than abandon him. Especially when she finds out that Slaine was tortured for her sake. Her heart is too big to a fault, as seen when she was willing to sacrifice herself to Rayet and blamed everything on herself.

I think it will also help that Eddelrittuo is totally on Slaine's side and she's very worried about him. She the connection bridge between Slaine and Asseylum. If they really wanted Slaine to break all connections, he would have had a horrible relationship with the maid and not have anyone that cared about him. I however, think that he's going to get help reeling him back from the abyss from the girls in his life.
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Old 2015-02-21, 19:31   Link #149
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The military of Earth is composed of idiots
The leadership of Earth is composed of even worse idiots.
The knights of Vers are composed of smart, cunning people.
...JK, they're idiots, it took them 19 episodes and at least six or seven ignominious defeats at the hands of a kid to figure out that attacking in group > attacking alone.

This show is basically a showdown between two normally intelligent kids in a world of idiots. It can be very good but there's still no denying that .
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Old 2015-02-21, 19:32   Link #150
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Being precise, he didn't run away for the mere mention of his name. Asseylum was remembering the time she was observing birds with Inaho. So, considering Slaine's major moments with her were all about birds, well, it wasn't my intention to use it, but it's sound as a middle case of NTR the writers put up there
Haha, at least Slaine didn't go all the way to kill the birds to prevent it from happening .


... for now .


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Old 2015-02-21, 19:38   Link #151
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Another mistranslation was when Slaine said "Tragedies do happen", when what he really said was "that it all frightens me." Yes, vastly different, I know. What's up with these translators? They are given one job!
To be precise, I think he's actually referring to just Asseylum waking up when he says "it also frightens me." It flows on from what Harklight said ("I eagerly await that day.")
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To be precise, I think he's actually referring to just Asseylum waking up when he says "it also frightens me." It flows on from what Harklight said ("I eagerly await that day.")
Yeah, it was something like that, which sounds totally different from what the subtitles said that he said. Saying "tragedies do happen" with that kind of look, it gives off a very sinister vibe that he's about to do something sinister. However the words "it frightens me" give a totally different feeling.
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Old 2015-02-21, 20:51   Link #154
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D-Bag indeed. High time Slaine got cut off at the balls.

Never has an anime so accurately described one of its own characters.

Poor fake princess. She's been played and doesn't even know it. And it's being done so very easy. Poor gal just wasn't someone to love her. Too bad. Makes the Manson brainwashing look like child's play. Dude gets him to "marry him" all but turn over the power that's the only thing making her useful and force feeds her lies like the greatest of politicians.

"Tragedies do happen."

They do indeed.

Your woman all but abandons you and you'll likely get death flagged something fierce before all is said or done, or worse, the princess will give ya the stink and tell ya to frig off. Gotta love it. Especially when she really starts to remember.

And, it took how many episodes for someone on Vers to use basic military strategy? Way too long. Looks like Inaho needs to clone himself a couple times.


Slaine the Vers Hilter? Definitely slipped into his ole' masters stained panties, I can tell ya that much.
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Old 2015-02-21, 21:01   Link #155
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If what the royals say and order is not in their best interests, then they kind of ignore it and do what they want.
Aside from Saazbaum's betrayal, that has never been shown. They may not like it, but they will still obey. Otherwise, the whole society collapse as only the royalty can give Aldnoah activation right.

Of course, that was then. Now that Slaine has been given that authority, Inaho is right in that Asseylum no longer holds much power. (I'm thinking that Inaho is assuming that Slaine and Asseylum are not on the same side.) This also explains why that count suddenly expresses loyalty to Slaine and even warns that other returning count.
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his show is basically a showdown between two normally intelligent kids in a world of idiots. It can be very good but there's still no denying that .
Pretty much this. Hope we'll have the Inaho vs. Slaine showdown soon
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Umm, I know that Eddelrittuo said that that Slaine made that garden for Asseylum, but considering the timeline, did he really have time to set that up? And where did he have the room to do so? Did Marylcian actually have a garden room in his castle? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, this may have been obvious, but I found it interesting that this episode mirrored episode 8 in the first season, and that they used the same score and everything in the scene, where Asseylum wakes up and Slaine and Eddelrittuo are so happy, while they splice it with UFE soldiers getting killed on Earth. It's the reverse of episode 8, where Asseylum is dancing in happiness on the UFE ship, while Slaine is tortured for her sake with Cruhteo. I like that they brought that back, but reversed it this time, and used the exact same music.

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Aside from Saazbaum's betrayal, that has never been shown. They may not like it, but they will still obey. Otherwise, the whole society collapse as only the royalty can give Aldnoah activation right.

Of course, that was then. Now that Slaine has been given that authority, Inaho is right in that Asseylum no longer holds much power. (I'm thinking that Inaho is assuming that Slaine and Asseylum are not on the same side.) This also explains why that count suddenly expresses loyalty to Slaine and even warns that other returning count.
Well, remember that Saazbaum wasn't in on the assassination attempt alone, there were other knights too, even thought Trillram was the only one shown, he does state "clans" as a plural, so there were others. Also, everyone on the moon base and Saazbaum's castle knew of his plan and supported it, so there are some of both the lower and higher classes that didn't like the royals. Vlad went directly against orders because of his honor. Cruhteo and Saazbaum thought the Emperor's orders were an outrage and went in council with him to basically tell him that what he was doing was stupid, and to manipulate him and change his mind. So, even if they won't outright go against orders, they'll manipulate him to get what they want. The same kind of happened with Marylcian when he basically manipulated Lemrina's insecurities in order to get her to let him on board.

Also, there's the whole issue of all 37 knights going against the orders of the Emperor who ordered them all to come home and they stayed, however, I always kind of thought that that that was really all a cover and the emperor was just saying that to not put Earth on edge but really wanted the counts to stay, since there is no punishment at all for that.
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Old 2015-02-21, 22:04   Link #158
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Of course Asseylum wakes up with partial amnesia, but remembers just enough to drive off Slaine. Yes, she's been through a lot, but after having her in a healing chamber for so long, her inactivity (especially compared to the first season) is annoying. And of course Slaine overhears just enough to drive him off. Actually, I was expecting Asseylum's first words upon waking up to be about Inaho to really drive Slaine off the deep end, but guess they're saving that up for later.

I know moronic military commanders is normal for these kinds of stories, but... these guys are really, really really out of touch. Kind of funny they bother to name the random counts, mechs, and fodder platoons sent out, but don't bother to name any higher rank officers (not that they matter). What war have they been paying attention to? Aside from Inaho's localized victories, earth has been losing non-stop since the beginning. Have they gotten their hands on new tech? Have they developed new anti-Martian measures? Have they all finished reading physics textbooks so they can attempt to follow Inaho's approach? Idiotic high command is normal (whereas Martians are all just arrogant idiots with superior tech) but this series hasn't bothered with even a slightly balanced approach to war.
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Well, remember that Saazbaum wasn't in on the assassination attempt alone, there were other knights too, even thought Trillram was the only one shown, he does state "clans" as a plural, so there were others. Also, everyone on the moon base and Saazbaum's castle knew of his plan and supported it, so there are some of both the lower and higher classes that didn't like the royals. Vlad went directly against orders because of his honor. Cruhteo and Saazbaum thought the Emperor's orders were an outrage and went in council with him to basically tell him that what he was doing was stupid, and to manipulate him and change his mind. So, even if they won't outright go against orders, they'll manipulate him to get what they want. The same kind of happened with Marylcian when he basically manipulated Lemrina's insecurities in order to get her to let him on board.
I'm not saying they're mere puppets of the royalty, but outright disobedience has not been shown. And even with Saazbaum's betrayal, no matter how many allies he has, he obviously doesn't have enough if he keeps it a secret. So I think there is still genuine loyalty to the royals among the counts.

And as far as their desire to conquer Earth, remember that it was the royals that urged them on to do that in the first place. Their actual desire is to gain resources for themselves. If Asseylum can provide another way to do it without conquering Earth, then I don't think they would all rebel as long as they still get those resources.

I think there would be a danger of outright rebellion if they were to know of Slaine's plan to overthrow the current hierarchy.
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Also, there's the whole issue of all 37 knights going against the orders of the Emperor who ordered them all to come home and they stayed, however, I always kind of thought that that that was really all a cover and the emperor was just saying that to not put Earth on edge but really wanted the counts to stay, since there is no punishment at all for that.
I don't remember that part. I thought they have trouble with transportation because the gate was destroyed.
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Next episode would be good. Inaho may pushed his limit and solos 3 Mars Kat with his beloved orange steed. But really, I just can't see Inaho loses in this battle because trying to outrun from 3 high tech kats are just impossible.

And Slaine is just another victim of the absolute power corrupts. He embraced Vers philosophy well.

So, the scene where Slaine ditched the blue rose indicated he is jealous?
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