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Old 2015-06-12, 17:28   Link #3261
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That a ships floating in space graveyard from ep 10. Source from CosmoDNA episode commentary series.
Thank you. I have to rewatch that episode.
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Old 2015-06-13, 04:43   Link #3262
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Yep, derelict ships.
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Old 2015-06-14, 09:39   Link #3263
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The movie brings up another question: Did the crew of the Yamato tell Celestella about the Ark and the surving Jirels?
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Old 2015-06-14, 15:51   Link #3264
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Don't know. I have noticed that both films have taken a wide course around episode 25. There is no reference to it at all. The ending of the Voyage to Remember is different than episode 26 (much like the Space Battleship Yamato movie on 1977 was different from the ending of episode 26 in 1975). Both have Yuki and Kodai on the bridge in uniform looking at Earth with everyone else. The episodes both have Yuki in a gown with Kodai in his uniform. That difference has remained between the two condensed versions of the story. I wonder if it is intensional for later shows.

I had wondered why Celestella was out that far in a torpedo boat. I guess she sort of knows about the Ark, and either thinks the rumor was proven false (crushing her hopes) or that she knows she missed the boat (also crushing her hopes), leaving her only with the wish to see Desler again.
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Old 2015-06-15, 08:12   Link #3265
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I had wondered why Celestella was out that far in a torpedo boat.
When I first watched the episode it also struck me as odd that she used a torpedo boat, and didn't procur a bigger ship like a destroyer or a light cruiser. Or even a battleship (like the one she used in episode 14). And it looked like the torpedo boat run out of energy (I didn't even know until that point that these vessel were geschtam-capable). This also brings up the question what energy source is used by Gamillian ships. I don't think they have wave motion cores (apart from Desslers flagship).
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Old 2015-06-15, 12:33   Link #3266
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I think the Gamilas ships use very similar technology to Iscandar (and thus now Earth) just not as refined as Iscandar. Dessler's huge cores were probably each doing as much as Yamato's one core.

Gamilas weapons are, at least in description, very similar to Yamato's weapons. The scale of power seems to be less with the older positron beam turrets verse the newer positron cannons. Yamato's positron shock cannons seem to be a step up from that, but they are also larger guns than most of the Gamilas fleet ships. Only the ships like Dommel's flagship and Dessler's ship have similar caliber weaponry to Yamato. That Yamato can take on ships of that size in one on one duels, suggest to me that Yamato is only about twice as powerful as a similarly sized Gamilas ship due to Iscandarian technology. Fortunately, most of the Gamilas fleet uses ships far smaller than Yamato, and none of the Gamilas ships have refined the technology to use wave motion energy as combat shielding, thought it is likely they use it on some level as Yamato's energy field was recognized by even an infultration agent.

Gamilas weapons seem to do two things depending on the amount of armor/shielding they encounter. They either pierce the ship, or they rake the ship. Yamato's shock cannons seem to pierce or cut through enemy ships, or bounce off entirely. Older Earth weapons seemed to just bounce of Gamilas hulls rather than rake them. Though I imagine that Earth weapons were able to damage Gamilas ships at close range prior to the Battle of Pluto, otherwise the fleet chatter wouldn't seem so surprised by their weapons not working even after having fought Gamilas for almost eight years at that point.

Cometine weapons appear to be less powerful than Gamilas weapons, but don't suffer the bouncing problem that Earth ships had (at least not against any Gamilas ship up to the size of a battlecarrier). They seem to be rapid fire capable and are readily able to shoot down incoming missiles, which seems to be something the Gamilas were not as good doing. Only the Megaluda's main battery seemed to do damage equal to say Yamato's shock cannons to a Gamilas ship. At least on a brute force scale. The same weapon did damage an unshielded Yamato, but hit a relatively minor location. The average Cometine weapons seemed to do enough damage to destroy smaller Gamilas ships, but required a massive amount of firepower to take down a capital ship. I don't think they would have been able to take on the red Fleet Battleship at the beginning of the film without the Magnaflame Gun. If Yamato's shock cannon's bounce off the bow, Cometine guns will bounce easy. Even the Magnaflame Gun was stopped by the armor of that ship's bow...for half a second.
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Old 2015-06-15, 23:14   Link #3267
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Excellent analysis.

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Okay, putting this on hiatus while I work on a different writing project, but here's the Prologue and Chapter 1 of my fic entitled Ghale Gamilon.

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Spoiler for Chapter 1:
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Old 2015-06-27, 11:12   Link #3268
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Just watched the movie earlier on, only one word can comment on the movie, amazing!

Very keen to looking for new Yamato 2199 projects on future.

Also, the translator girl's voice sounds very familiar for me. After I checked the credits, found out she's voiced by the VA of Idolm@ster's Haruka...
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Old 2015-07-28, 14:32   Link #3269
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I hope this is true

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News from Japan: I'd like everyone to take a deep breath and remain calm and read this for what it IS, not for what it ISN'T. The new issue (#11) of Ship's Log, the Yamato Premium Fan Club magazine, is purported to contain an interview with Exec Producer Souji Nishizaki. A fan who read the interview reports on Twitter that early pre-production has begun on the remake of Yamato 2. Staff is being hired and research is underway at Xebec Studio.

I repeat, this is a fan relaying news on Twitter, and that's all the information that was given. When a copy of Ship's Log #11 arrives here at the nerve center in a week or two, I'll do an actual translation of the interview. For now, if this is true, it's the first reliable news from the inside. Fingers crossed that it holds up!
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Old 2015-07-28, 16:17   Link #3270
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The hope is there. If the additional data is correct, it will start in Fall of 2016. Though it may be released just like Yamato 2199 was...in small batches of episodes in theaters every three months or so for a year and a half, then come on TV starting in 2017 or early 2018.

We will learn more as data comes in the following weeks and months.


I really, really want to see a wave motion engine equipped Earth fleet in action.
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Old 2015-07-29, 01:05   Link #3271
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Thank you for the heads up, Galaxy Convoy.
Hopefully this is more than just a rumor.
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Old 2015-07-30, 17:14   Link #3272
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Posted this question on the CosmoDNA facebook, but asking it here too.

So I was thinking, in Odyssey of the Celestial Ark we saw the Gamilas fleet after the Yamato left to pursue the Megaluda was able to take on the Gatlantis fleet and get a mutual kill, with the Mirangal presumably taking down the majority of Gatlantean ships.

If the Nirvales wasn't destroyed by the Flame Strike Gun, do you guys think the Gamilon forces would have fared much better?
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Old 2015-07-30, 20:06   Link #3273
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With both battlecarriers and perhaps the cruiser and destroyer that were destroyed by the Flame Strike Gun, the Gamilas fleet probably would do better against the larger Gatlantean force. I still imagine that all the lighter ships would have been destroyed, but with the additional firepower, both battlecarriers would likely have survived, though both would likely be moderately damaged.
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Old 2015-07-31, 05:22   Link #3274
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Greetings fellow Space Battleship Yamato Fans!
I would like to post some fan made ship designs I've found, and also my idea for the EDF Andromeda. But before that, can we discuss the Andromeda, it's design and weapon systems?



I wish to know your guys opinion about the things on the hull of the Andromeda.

What I know:
Official wiki:
1x twin Wave Motion Cannons or 2x Wave Motion Cannons or 2x Diffusion Wave Motion Cannons
4x3 508mm Shock cannons
2x2,2x3 Pulse Laser AA Guns.
4x front torpedo tubes
8x missile launchers

Other, Japanese site states the following:
2x Diffusion Wave Motion Cannons
4x3 508mm Shock cannons
4x2 side shock cannon turret mounts
2x2,2x3 Pulse Laser AA Guns.
4x front torpedo tubes
8x Anti Aircraft missile launchers under the bridge

Apparently there are 3 different type of engines located on the hull: Main Wave Motion Engine, 4 set of secondary engines, 1 set of 4 tertiary or auxiliary engines (front section on the bottom)
The small opening on the nose is probably a sensor of sorts, apparently there are 3 doors leading for the hanger, one is a the bottom like on the Yamato, and 1-1 on both sides between the secondary engines.
The close range AA armament is very small for this size of vessel with only 4 turrets, though if the missiles were specially for anti starfighter use that could help the ship defend itself. Or is it possible that the ship designed so not to work individually but with a strong fighter cover and/or with specialised anti starfighter aka AA ships for defence.

And the unknown things on the hull:

1 - ??? Shield generator?
2 - semi rectangle doors/hatches of unknown purpose
3 - ??? Small angle broadside cannon mounts? Missile tubes? Manoeuvring thrusters?
4 - Command unit or Radar?
5 - ??? Fuel (Tachyon) tanks? Shield Generators?
6 - Rectangle doors/hatches of unknown purpose
7 - circular holes on the bridge, there are some on the aft part of the superstructure and on the top part of the bridge (aft)
8 - Unknown circular openings between the struts, probably the bridge AA missile tubes?
9 - Shield Generator? Manoeuvring thrusters? And/or missile tubes?
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Old 2015-08-05, 10:26   Link #3275
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Not sure. Didn't even know someone had come up with a diameter from Andromeda's shock cannons.
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Old 2015-08-07, 16:11   Link #3276
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Well here is my idea for the Andromeda (and I've seen many versions on the net! )
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And some warship designs based on the SBY universe:
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Old 2015-08-07, 17:07   Link #3277
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The EDF Olympia looks a lot like Yamato from 2520.
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Old 2015-08-07, 17:40   Link #3278
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Well here is my idea for the Andromeda (and I've seen many versions on the net! )
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Oh that was you. I saw that this morning on Pixiv and forgot to look back to this thread. I sent them along to someone I know who might paint some Andromeda miniatures in the colors of your various fleets.

However I can't locate just 10 torpedo tubes on your drawing.
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Old 2015-08-08, 01:10   Link #3279
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Oh that was you. I saw that this morning on Pixiv and forgot to look back to this thread. I sent them along to someone I know who might paint some Andromeda miniatures in the colors of your various fleets.

However I can't locate just 10 torpedo tubes on your drawing.
Well the 4 long doors on the nose and 6 smaller under the 2nd main turrets.
The missile launchers are the 6 circular openings just behind the 3rd main turret on the superstructure.

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Old 2015-08-08, 11:36   Link #3280
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Ah. I was wondering that since they are similar to the four on each side of the wave motion guns. Speaking of the wave motion guns, what are you imagining the two smaller circles to be in each opening next to the main gun port?

Also which item are you suggesting as the two shield generators? The underside pods or the bumps at the wing roots near the front?

Have you considered doing other ships of this 2201 style? Or even the later space battleship Arizona in the multiple Fleet paint jobs. I know a friend of mine has a large number of Arizona miniatures that need painting, and they were looking at using you variety of Andromedas as inspiration.

One thing to note though. One imagines that since the Yamato in Yamato 2199 is bigger than the original, Andromeda will likely also be larger than the original from 1978. The new Yamato is 333 meters long, and has 48cm main cannons. If Andromeda is to have 51cm main cannons, than she needs to scale with the newer Yamato.

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