Senkaku/Diaoyu/Tiaoyutai/Pinnacle Islands dispute

[PzIVf3]

Originally Posted by DonQuigleone

You clearly have never traveled through rural America

I do. Somewhere at California.

[Ridwan]

Comparing between this and Israeli colonization of Palestine is really stretching it, to say the least.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by kyp275

Welcome to reality. Also, the Chinese can hardly whine about being invaded, having been the invaders plenty of times themselves

If you wanted to tell him off, using the word "Tibet" is enough.

[Tom Bombadil]

Let me enlighten you a bit.

Sino Nepalese War

This is a war fought from 1788-1792 between the Chinese and the Napalese. By your logic, the Chinese must have air lifted above the Tibet plateau to fight a war.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Let me enlighten you a bit.

Sino Nepalese War

This is a war fought from 1788-1792 between the Chinese and the Napalese. By your logic, the Chinese must have air lifted above the Tibet plateau to fight a war.

Funny how you're leaving out the part where the Chinese invaded Tibet multiple times throughout history themselves.

How did you put it... oh yea, "the Chinese started an invasion and force the treaty down the Tibetan's throat to give up their land."

Pot, meet Kettle

[Sumeragi]

What about after Tibet regained independence? For that matter, what about the Uyghur? Aren't both people occupied after the founding of PRC?

[Ridwan]

This thread, if not this entire forum needs a regulatory system to deal against polemical partisants.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by Ridwan

This thread, if not this entire forum needs a regulatory system to deal against polemical partisants.

I am against this for the sake of humour.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Ridwan

Comparing between this and Israeli colonization of Palestine is really stretching it, to say the least.

But... all those Senkaku rocks had to be relocated and human rights violated.
Think of the rocks.

[Ridwan]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

I am against this for the sake of humour.

I would've agreed with that 3 years ago. But I have now come to conclude that mixing sirs with non-sirs in one non-ironic environment doesn't yield the amount of fun worth the harm.

Originally Posted by aohige

But... all those Senkaku rocks had to be relocated and human rights violated.
Think of the rocks.

Now I'm confused. Isn't Senkaku the rocks' Promised Land ?

[willx]

Highly related to the previous discussion:

The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by willx

Highly related to the previous discussion:

The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park

I'm not sure if that's awesome or sad.

it'd be awesome if they were shooting paintballs, but since it doesn't look that way, I'm gonna have to go with sad.

[ArchmageXin]

Originally Posted by willx

Highly related to the previous discussion:

The Eighth Route Army Culture Park in Wuxiang county, China, allows visitors to dress up at Chinese or Japanese troops. And then shoot each other with phony guns.

http://kotaku.com/5958008/japan-inva...amusement-park

I am sure is no worse than Americans dressing as Nazis for historical re-enactment. Nothing is better than going with your son on a weekend to discuss the final solution

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by kyp275

Funny how you're leaving out the part where the Chinese invaded Tibet multiple times throughout history themselves.

How did you put it... oh yea, "the Chinese started an invasion and force the treaty down the Tibetan's throat to give up their land."

Pot, meet Kettle

and Tibet when it was known as Tufan also invaded China several times, including the sacking of Chang'An following the collapse of the Tang Dynasty.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

and Tibet when it was known as Tufan also invaded China several times, including the sacking of Chang'An following the collapse of the Tang Dynasty.

Indeed, but this isn't a scoreboard keeping track of who invaded who how many times, the point is that nobody's hand is clean, so T.Bomb's crying foul of HK as a result of an invasion is hypocritical at best as China does the same thing to others anyway.

[willx]

Originally Posted by kyp275

Indeed, but this isn't a scoreboard keeping track of who invaded who how many times, the point is that nobody's hand is clean, so T.Bomb's crying foul of HK as a result of an invasion is hypocritical at best as China does the same thing to others anyway.

Yeah, all is fair in war and war .. until the Western Powers decided they had enough and said the game was over..

I'm kidding, but only about 85% -- there are people that genuinely feel that they're not particularly happy about where all the borders were drawn at. It's a theme that comes up in Tom Clancy books too. "Who said the game was over?"

[ArchmageXin]

Originally Posted by willx

Yeah, all is fair in war and war .. until the Western Powers decided they had enough and said the game was over..

I'm kidding, but only about 85% -- there are people that genuinely feel that they're not particularly happy about where all the borders were drawn at. It's a theme that comes up in Tom Clancy books too. "Who said the game was over?"

You gotta thank the British Empire for at least a couple examples...

For example, the Indian/China border, and the Pakistan/India Border.

[DonQuigleone]

You have to pity Germany, that most quintessential of German regions, Prussia (that formed Germany!), isn't even in Germany though.

Of course, a lot of people think they had it coming.

[willx]

Highly relevant to this discussion

China's communist elite are meeting to install a new generation of leaders in a process that is part public show and part backroom politicking.

At the center of the spectacle is the Communist Party congress, a gathering held once every five years that is the 18th such event in the party's history. The congress is more interlude than climax. Important decisions are made by current and retired leaders, some of whom are not even on the congress delegates' roster, in bargaining that began years ago and has largely been already resolved.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

Outlook not so good

[RRW]

TOKYO—Japan scrambled fighter jets over contested islands in the East China Sea after a small Chinese propeller plane entered what Tokyo considers its airspace.

Coming just three days before general elections in Japan, Thursday's move sharply escalates territorial tensions that have already damaged economic relations between the two neighbors.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...539995800.html