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[Homura7]

Ho---Holy shit...

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Seth and Solva... gone. Now I'm more happy than ever they had one last big fight.

Thanks for the info, Ynot. Interesting the bit about the cloning technique.

As for Gido, I guess he was indeed the big guy who was with Ishiyama. However, it's safe to assume this one is a clone with his memories altered and that the real Gido is indeed dead.

And also, don't say we weren't warned:

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Great confidence you had there Solva T T

Deaths of important characters are better and more shocking if you can't see it coming. First Arca, now Seth and Solva. Who will be next, I wonder.

Man. I'm unable to predict something anymore, it's just... impossible.

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But one thing I know for sure. The annihilation of the Resistance is nigh.

[Leidolfr]

The truth, did not expect me this

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I had no idea that the guy who was with Ishiyama was Rikudou Gido, well..., would rather be a clone, because the real depths would never kill Blade, unless they have brainwashed him. The death of Solva and Seto has no name, they wouldn't have to die so, they would rather have to survive or die in combat

Now more than ever, Cruz, Blade and Eve must do something

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I think that in these moments Cruz, Blade or Eve must do something, after having come so far should not end up dead, I also believe that both Cruz and Aruka are canned clones that Arclight mentioned

[Homura7]

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Not sure about Gido. On one hand it's true the real one wouldn't do this. On the other...

Have we already forgotten about? His real name is Rikudou Gido. RIKUDOU.

We need further info.

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As for Solva, I don't have any idea what's gonna happen with her, but Seth I'm sure hasn't said her last. At last, the time for this tool to play its true purpose has come.



Cmon, don't say I'm the only one who thinks this isn't just one normal sword. Aside from the creepy skull, the part where it was broken has veins pulsating.

And don't forget that in the Black Spot history there's a girl whose name is Seth too.

[Leidolfr]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

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Not sure about Gido. On one hand it's true the real one wouldn't do this. On the other...

Have we already forgotten about? His real name is Rikudou Gido. RIKUDOU.

We need further info.

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As for Solva, I don't have any idea what's gonna happen with her, but Seth I'm sure hasn't said her last. At last, the time for this tool to play its true purpose has come.



Cmon, don't say I'm the only one who thinks this isn't just one normal sword. Aside from the creepy skull, the part where it was broken has veins pulsating.

And don't forget that in the Black Spot history there's a girl whose name is Seth too.

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You're right, still no give assured that Solva and Seto to die, because we have not yet seen all the power possessing both

Thank you for the correction and notice, that incidentally already I have corrected it all to make it more acceptable .

[Homura7]

You're welcome.

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Solva most likely will be brought back through clonation, but Seth's case is different.

We have said many times that in Needless the roles certain characters will play as well as their actions and survival rate are determined by their names.

In the Bible, Seth is the third son of Adam & Eve. This alone should give you an idea.

Their deaths are unexpected and shocking, as it should be if you don't want your readers to predict who's gonna die. But like it happened with Teruyama, this won't be the last we're gonna see of them. That I think should be clear.

[Xiammes]

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I still don't understand why Imai insists on setting Blade up against more impossible odds. Riru was enough, but then we got Arclight, a even more more powerful Arclight, Satan shows up, and a now a powerful Gido shows up. I don't understand what he is going for, why do we need all these people to show us how fucked they are?

[NeutralZero]

if they did die, isn't it possible to resurrect them the same way Teruyama was ressurected?

[Xiammes]

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Another thing, how did Solva suddenly get a stigmata? Something seems fishy about this, I still want to believe Gido hasn't completely changed.

[Avvesione]

Originally Posted by Xiammes

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Another thing, how did Solva suddenly get a stigmata? Something seems fishy about this, I still want to believe Gido hasn't completely changed.

That's a good point...

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I was thinking about that, too, how Seto and Solva just appeared again and were lifeless bodies that were consumed in the matter of 2 pages. What's to say they weren't clones like Teruyama was but were used as substitutes instead? Keep in mind, when we last left Seto and Solva, they were in a room with Ishiyama, Gido, Kafka and Uten... and now it's Saten who's carrying them down? Either way, it does confirm that Seto and Solva have two Stigmata since they did appear on Arclight after he absorbed both. However, trying to differentiate who's a clone now or who has their memories altered is nearly impossible, as we saw with Teruyama at the beginning of this arc.

Also, anyone else kinda disappointed that Gravity and Magnetism are Stigmata? I mean, yeah, they're both really strong, really potent Fragments, but... they're both easily, EASILY outranked by Psychokinesis. Not only can Psychokinesis do everything Gravity and Magnetism can do, but it can manipulate much more at a time, let alone allow for teleportation and stopping molecular vibrations. They don't really seem like they're "Stigmata"-tier compared to others like Psychokinesis or Doppelganger. Oh well, enough bitching for now.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Avvesione

That's a good point...

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I was thinking about that, too, how Seto and Solva just appeared again and were lifeless bodies that were consumed in the matter of 2 pages. What's to say they weren't clones like Teruyama was but were used as substitutes instead? Keep in mind, when we last left Seto and Solva, they were in a room with Ishiyama, Gido, Kafka and Uten... and now it's Saten who's carrying them down? Either way, it does confirm that Seto and Solva have two Stigmata since they did appear on Arclight after he absorbed both. However, trying to differentiate who's a clone now or who has their memories altered is nearly impossible, as we saw with Teruyama at the beginning of this arc.

Also, anyone else kinda disappointed that Gravity and Magnetism are Stigmata? I mean, yeah, they're both really strong, really potent Fragments, but... they're both easily, EASILY outranked by Psychokinesis. Not only can Psychokinesis do everything Gravity and Magnetism can do, but it can manipulate much more at a time, let alone allow for teleportation and stopping molecular vibrations. They don't really seem like they're "Stigmata"-tier compared to others like Psychokinesis or Doppelganger. Oh well, enough bitching for now.

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And what Teruyama's fragment can do aside from generate flames? If you recall, Saten said is not a matter of power but of whether the fragment contain the elements the Second Christ had. In other words, if he had the power to control gravity and magnetism, then the one holding that power would eventually have the mark no matter how many things is capable of doing. Even if the power has only one single use.

Explains that Kafka and Uten brought them. And Solva probably was injected with Eden Seed by Ishiyama.

Oh well, is not like this wasn't foreshadowed. On that panel featuring the 12 holders Seth's figure can be easily identified, I think.

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So place your bets. Who do you think is the last holder?

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As for Gido, I'm starting to wonder myself if he was already a needless from the very beggining. Not only we know almost nothing about him. In the following years after the incident until Blade became adult, many things had to happen.

Originally Posted by Xiammes

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I still don't understand why Imai insists on setting Blade up against more impossible odds. Riru was enough, but then we got Arclight, a even more more powerful Arclight, Satan shows up, and a now a powerful Gido shows up. I don't understand what he is going for, why do we need all these people to show us how fucked they are?

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I don't understand your question. But in case you don't remember, the Adam C. in N 1.5 was sent to kill him, meaning he managed to survive?

[Kurohane]

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OK, I know everything seems hopeless now. We are indeed winding down to a critical point in the story. I had a feeling that the 1st shadow figure was Gido after considering Imai-san's style. The one who broke out of his tube was someone new. We still have no confirmation they were the same person and I still doubt it.

What happended with Set and Solva I believe calls for a flashback, because we can't fathom what happened to them exactly. I doubt they were cloned considering they would have just gotten their DNA now. It takes a while to make a fully developed clone. I agree this isn't the last we seen of them.

About the page with Disk telling Blade and Eve critical information. I doubt it was about Gido, unless why would Cruz be left in the dark. I understand Mio, but it was better for Cruz to know as well. In fact, why keep it from Mio too? She would have found out anyway if that was the case once going back to Simeon.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet about Gido. About the statement he said about being the head of triple 6, was it more like sayiong he was from the beginning or now is? In other words, if Ishiyama was the head before, did he kill Ishiyama to become the new head? If he was with Ishyama before I have suspicions of why the old mn isn't there now. I doubt Gido would betray Blade and Eve after so long. I doesn't make sense that he was the head all along if that is what translation is saying.

It is strange that Saten would toss Set a nd Solva to Arclight. Saten has shown to hinder or deter Arclights plans in the third shelter, so the fact he is helping him so directly now must have an alterior motive. Maybe Set and Solva even though absorbed hasn't lost their sense of self and will rampage inside him giving him a moment of weakness for Blade to stirke. Despite Saten and Gido showing up, I doubt they will interfere much beteen Arclight's and Blade's battle, so it's still one on one. With Cruz, Eve, Disk, Teruyama and Mio is another story though. Anyway, those are my two cents. Everyone will die if outside help isn't provided. That much is obvious.

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

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So place your bets. Who do you think is the last holder?

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Not Cruz, would be to obvious. Due to scan being unlikely, Arclight will set his eyes (all four of them) on Cruz now because he is the most likely candidate in the room being able to negate Psychokinesis and therefore be the next target. RUN CRUZ!

[Xiammes]

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That Set and Solva didn't look natural, we know the only way to kill a Edan Seed user is to rip out the heart or brain, but neither of them had any injury to suggest that either happened. I don't think you can inject eden seed into a dead person, and have a stigmata pop up. Remember Uchida was near death, but not actually dead.

Though a counter argument could say that the wound from when Uten stabbed her has healed and scared, but we have no idea if that would have transfered over on the clone.


@Kurohan

He specifically stated that he is the leader/founder of 666. Ishiyama was never the leader, he was just the old guy we saw the most of.

Simeon has shown the ability to mass produce clones out the ass, whats stopping Satan from flash cloning some lifeless husks.

[Homura7]

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The last holder can't be a Simeon needless, nor a member from the Resistance. So this leaves either someone outside City, or there's a much bigger secret behind.

Gido says he's in charge of 666, not that he has always been. The 666 Comittee is, as the number itself suggests, a secret organization that aims to add up to 666 powerful people, and it seems Gido was chosen as the head who runs the organization... after brainwashing him, I wonder?

On the other hand, Imai has done and excellent job in portraying the readers that the situation Cruz and co. are in is, beyond hopeless. The desperation is well featured in Blade's face, who could do nothing but watch Arclight slow and cruely devour Seth & Solva.

And now Saten has dropped by, and with his actions in this chapter we are unable to guess what he aims for.

[js06]

Just posted my translation: http://mangahelpers.com/t/js06/releases/36547

In case no one has mentioned it yet:

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The kanji for Rikudou mean "six" and "path".

[Kurohane]

Originally Posted by Xiammes

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That Set and Solva didn't look natural, we know the only way to kill a Edan Seed user is to rip out the heart or brain, but neither of them had any injury to suggest that either happened. I don't think you can inject eden seed into a dead person, and have a stigmata pop up. Remember Uchida was near death, but not actually dead.

Though a counter argument could say that the wound from when Uten stabbed her has healed and scared, but we have no idea if that would have transfered over on the clone.


@Kurohane

He specifically stated that he is the leader/founder of 666. Ishiyama was never the leader, he was just the old guy we saw the most of.

Simeon has shown the ability to mass produce clones out the ass, whats stopping Satan from flash cloning some lifeless husks.

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How can Gido be the founder when he was working under them in the past arc? If he was working in the adam project while hiding his stature, then why? Why did he escape into the Black Spot after the incident. How come when he just returns, his position hasn't been taken by someone else? I'm just asking these questions because it doesn't make any sense.

It does take time to prepare a clone. The scientists said as much when Cruz infiltrated the building and encountered Teruyama's corpse. Those Aruka clones took 1 year according their character introduction. As I was saying before, they would just have Set and Solva's DNA now. I doubt they could make a fully bred clone within the hour let alone two. They had Teruyama for a few weeks. They had Uten's and Kafka's DNA since the first few chapters.

Originally Posted by js06

Just posted my translation: http://mangahelpers.com/t/js06/releases/36547

Thanks for the translation, js06.

[Ynot]

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Oh, for anyone wondering about the ES en IPS cells, they're Embryonic stem (ES) and induced pluripotent stem (IPS) cells. The difference between the two is the ES cells are naturally pluripotent cells and the IPS are artificially made pluripotent cells.

That part had me scratching my head when I was translating it for myself, but google turned out to have no problem finding the answer.


I'm looking forward to Gido's explanation in the next chapter. I wonder if those Testament brains he had Blade get for him were a way to secretly stay informed by Simeon etc. I think he has been "evil" from at least since the time he went to live in the Blackspot together with Eve and Blade.

[Homura7]

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Thanks for pointing that, Ynot. Seems Gido is serious. It's like we have been living in a lie. To him Eve is everything, so he won't kill her. Even since Blade was 7 he had him collect Testament brains.

And we had the meaning behind in our very noses. Rikudou is japanese for "Six".

Now I recall, he previously survived a few hits from Setsuna who can twist your neck twice with one slap.

Something happened during the more than 10 years Blade, Eve and Gido spent living together.

[Ynot]

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Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

Now I recall, he previously survived a few hits from Setsuna who can twist your neck twice with one slap.

Good point. Setsuna hitting a mere human should've had some pretty nasty results. Either Gido had unhuman resilience or Setsuna would've had to hold back. Both options are signs of some hidden secret.

[Kurohane]

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I think Gido has the last Stigmata as well. Now that I had the chance to look at the raws, have we seen his mark on his forehead on Arclights body. It is quite coincidental that Arclight mentions needing only one more, and then, Gido shows up. Plus he could never block a punch from Blade unless he did. So, I'm guessing Gido was the one who Saten released and the other shadow figure is still unknown. Yeah, I mentioned in my other posts that it I first thought it was the other way around, but I didn't see the raws then and was going off spoilers alone.

The shadow figure I'm still convinced has the ninth stigmata that Arclight hasn't used yet. He is actually in that picture posted a while back of the 12 shadows of the stigmata holders. Considering Gido was undergoing a procedure, most likely injected with Eden's Seed, his power is relatively new and Arclight has not absorbed yet. We are probably going to get flashbacks for a few months so we won't know what happens next for a while.

[Homura7]

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Eh, what do you mean? The big guy whose face was shadowed is Gido himself. He was in front of Seth at the time, and in this chapter he confessed he killed both her and Solva.

Gido's fragment is most likely linked with rejuvenation.

And it's not like I didn't tell you...



But I told you!! Upper left corner.