2012-07-07, 23:07 | Link #81 | |
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For better or worse, it's about floor 74-75, you can't really jam RNR in without both disrupting the flow of the story AND lessen the impact of RNR, which IMO had an extremely effective ending to it by having it end with Sachi's letter(and picture of Kirito burying his head on the desk). |
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2012-07-07, 23:21 | Link #82 | ||
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Also, if you want to get technical, since SAO was originally written as a stand-alone work, technically the event you're talking about happened during the later parts of the story, which in your book makes it the "same old recipe". |
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2012-07-07, 23:28 | Link #83 | |
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2012-07-07, 23:37 | Link #84 | |||
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You're right that uniqueness doesn't necessarily mean better, though. Except it did in this case, and the follow-up to the uniqeness was just as good. And I wasn't the only one who liked it by the way. Quote:
In a world where 97% of anime follows a pattern, SAO dared to be part of that other 3% despite the possible detrimental effects of having that kind of event too early. And SAO pulled it off beautifullly. As said above, uniqueness in this case worked out very good. Quote:
Now we really should call it quits here because I get the feeling Relentlessflame is going to walk in toting the hammer at this rate, this not being the entirely proper thread to be talking about it.
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2012-07-07, 23:43 | Link #85 |
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Basically, Shinji says that SAO is unique because a critical question is resolved early, unlike Zero no Tsukaima that took 20-odd volumes and status reset to make up it's mind.
The problem with his viewpoint is that for the purposes of the anime, which MUST stand alone from the LN, it MUST develop its characters and relstionships better. I've said my thoughts on this on the previous page, which rennir has quoted above. I respect that POV, but I don't think it loses too much with a chronological adaptation.
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2012-07-07, 23:52 | Link #86 |
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As someone who makes it a point to support winmouto, i unfortunately have to comfort Suguha's unrequitd love towards Kirito. Kirito and Asuna ftw, period. Ya don't like it, you can always leave: the door was open for you to enter, and it is open for you to exit the room.
Kirito views Sachi as a little sister. Hence also why he helped Scilicaa: "You remind me of my little sister." The problem with anime viewers these days is they want instant gratification. They don't want to think. They don't consider that when a series shows things from the perspectives of characters cut off from the outside, it will not show the outside. I feel reslly goddamned old now.
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That should really be a wrap though. *watches out panicked-ly for Relentlessflame*
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Edit: After further thoughts, I think a key sticking point here is that Shinji sees the "event" as an equivalent of an "end-game" event which only happens very late in your typical anime stories like ZnT, while said event seems to have occured rather early in the overall Sword Art Online storyline. This is understandable since I think he's only read vol.1 so far. The thing is if one continue reading the rest of the story, he will realize that instead of it being a kind of watershed moment or a end-game event, it is merely a beginning of a continuing story element. Last edited by kyp275; 2012-07-08 at 00:51. |
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2012-07-08, 09:56 | Link #90 |
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There's good & bad in terms of adapting the story the way-it-is or chronologically. It also highly depends on the way that the anime team wants to present the stories contained within the SAO side-stories.
Eg. I personally feel that Aria in the Starless Night is a story that works better in terms of a chronological story factor. My opinion, mind you, but I felt that it sets up the elements of the starting point for the story way better, showcasing the first true victory for the SAO, before jumping into the time-skip. Also, it sets up the whole Beater-hate thing that lingered throughout Vol.1. However, based on the way the story played out in my head, I would want the story to them have its time-skip over to 2-years-later proper after Aria, showcasing the matured Kirito/Asuna, only to explore the pains and other mini-adventures that they had went through over the 2 years. (via flashback, or what not) I stand to be proven wrong though, assuming the anime team decides to go full-chronological order.
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Asuna can just die? The main heroine? Uh huh. Not gonna happen. Sorry. ;p As for the current discussion (Asuna x Kirito), I'm sure their romance will still blossom early on, and much earlier than in the majority of fantasy orientated action-adventures with romantic sub-plots. However, that alone isn't what makes it so good; it's certainly part of the reason, but we can't forget the execution (which is well done in this case) as well as the fact that their romance does a lot of things "right". It isn't a matter of subjectivity, but of objectivity. Quote:
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2012-07-08, 12:13 | Link #92 | |
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2) Aria 3) Red Nosed Reindeer (there are so many scenes in the PV that I'm sure it's going to be an early episode) 4) The Black Swordsman (honestly, if Scilica weren't featured so prominently in the promotional art, I'd expect this to be an OVA) 5) Asuna makes dinner for Kirito 6) 75th Floor Boss Fight 7) Warmth of the Heart (flashback to explain Kirito's Dual Swords) 8) Kirito vs Heathcliff 9) Kirito as a Blood Knight/Asuna & Kirito get married 10) Morning Dew Girl 11) Fishing 12) 76th Floor Boss Fight 13) Final Battle That would finish the SAO arc in a single cour. Of course it's always possible they might do Murder Case and show the coalition against the Laughing Coffins, which would stretch it a bit longer. |
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2012-07-08, 13:10 | Link #97 |
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Oh yes it can happen, if the author decide to do a 360 turn and wipe Asuna off the context of Sword Art and paired Kirito with his cousin. I am really hope the ALO arc can be animated along with GGO Arc (I would love to see that Girly face to be animated).Btw anyone know when will the next Volume come out?
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2012-07-08, 13:12 | Link #98 | |
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GGO won't be animated, but ALO will. Volume 10 is supposed to come out in a day or two in Japan. But that's a topic for the L/N thread. |
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2012-07-08, 13:40 | Link #99 | |
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Oh and what joy, for me to finally have a show where I can be part of this exclusive spoilerish club |
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