Mechs, Weapons, and Technology of Code Geass

[Sander RX]

Well, it had something to do with the Yggdrasill Drive, because Suzaku said "What?! The Yggdrasill Drive was supposed to be modified!"

Didnt he shout that when he was amazed by Guren Aerial Type's force when blocking its radiaton wave with Blaze Luminious

So, yes. Wards do have tougher engines than pre-Conquista Lancelot.

God save us!How on earth can CGs version of Windams have anything superior to Lancelot?!Im scared....

This is what MAHQ says Guren MkII Aerial Type's profile:

As the name implies, the Aerial Type also receives an air glide wing unit that allows it to fly, but this also comes with a set of missile-like Gefjun disturbers, which can shut down the functions of an improperly shielded knightmare (and still hamper the functions of a shielded one).

So I go with Vallen Chaos Valiant's version.

[Dream_Traveller]

Well, the Yggdrasil Drive powers the shields in the first place.

[TsukasaTetris]

Does anyone else find it weird that the Ward hasn't been put up on the site yet? If it's been put up, I can't find it.

[Dream_Traveller]

It's like the Knightpolice (which has so far only been shown twice in R2)- a unit that gets no real recognition, even by the creators of the show.

[Rising Dragon]

If FLEIJA is made of Sakuradite, doesn't that mean the Gefjun Disturbers can effect it? Or is the projectile large enough to give it some actual shielding?

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by TsukasaTetris

Does anyone else find it weird that the Ward hasn't been put up on the site yet? If it's been put up, I can't find it.

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

It's like the Knightpolice (which has so far only been shown twice in R2)- a unit that gets no real recognition, even by the creators of the show.

Ward:
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_02c.html

Knightmare police:
http://geass.jp/world_04.html?pid=mecha_12.html

[Dream_Traveller]

Er...that's the Valkyrie Custom Vincent.

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Er...that's the Valkyrie Custom Vincent.

uhhh... then what is Ward?
IS that light version of Vincent?

[ZeroSama]

Was it me or did it look like Flieja had an intergrated float unit like the gurens float Gejiun disturbers? If you look closely there is a green glow around the centre of it and as we all know thats the same colour as the light emitted by Britannian float units and it can't be sakuradite for the reaction because its pink.

I would say they intergrated it into it because of the size of the projectile to both stop it from travelling in a parabolic arc and increase its velocity. Also i'm assuming its launched elecromagnetiaclly because i doubt you want gun-powder near a WMD.

[Dream_Traveller]

The Ward is the version of the Vincent that is lightly armed, replacing Needle Blazers with Tonfas, and also has a simplified version of the head.

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

The Ward is the version of the Vincent that is lightly armed, replacing Needle Blazers with Tonfas, and also has a simplified version of the head.

Lol. Even such thing as Wikipedia doesn't have anything about hem.
Poor engineers of Ward . And they look so nice. Especially the head.
Ahh... I love Britannian design. Maybe even more than EU. We need more EU mechs. They look more Real Robot-ic.
Rakshata design doesn't give this awesome feeling KMF should give.

[Dream_Traveller]

The Ward is mentioned in the Vincent section, briefly...but, hey. They're the new mook mechs.

Would be funny if we got a pilot/unit that could really kick ass in one, though.

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

The Ward is mentioned in the Vincent section, briefly...but, hey. They're the new mook mechs.

Would be funny if we got a pilot/unit that could really kick ass in one, though.

One more reason R2 sucks compared to S1.
R2 is super robot show.
While S1 is Real Robot. Real Robot is better. There basic unit actually can destroy more advanced unit.

[Dream_Traveller]

Er, well...recalling an instance when that actually happened, that occurred only twice- once in Kyushu, when Gun Rus were about to destroy the Lancelot, though the Gawain still came in the nick of time and the Lancelot was dangerously low on energy, and in the finale, when Cornelia trounced C.C. and Lelouch, but that was because the Gawain was bulky and slow, and not suited for close combat. They only exploited weaknesses, it wasn't really any show of skill. Oh, and there was that time when the Swords bested the Lancelot, but only through Lelouch studying Suzaku's repeated string of movements.

And as for the super robot bit, what can you expect? It's war. Weapons are developed by both sides in a constant Lensman Arms Race (see TV Tropes for that) to outdo and out-perform each other. It's inevitable that they'll stray into highly advanced territory. And the robots are still very real (okay, maybe excepting the SEITEN because that steps into godly territory).

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Ruvixur

One more reason R2 sucks compared to S1.
R2 is super robot show.
While S1 is Real Robot. Real Robot is better. There basic unit actually can destroy more advanced unit.

Actually both the Guren and Lancelot were both equally ridcuolous in S1 for their balletic combat. As soon as they made an appearence it started to head into super robot territory. That type speed and agility is not something i associate with real robot mecha-anime.

Patalabor and Gasarki are what i would say are prime examples of real robot mecha anime. The mechs are slow and clunking just like they should be.

[Ruvixur]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Er, well...recalling an instance when that actually happened, that occurred only twice- once in Kyushu, when Gun Rus were about to destroy the Lancelot, though the Gawain still came in the nick of time and the Lancelot was dangerously low on energy, and in the finale, when Cornelia trounced C.C. and Lelouch, but that was because the Gawain was bulky and slow, and not suited for close combat. They only exploited weaknesses, it wasn't really any show of skill. Oh, and there was that time when the Swords bested the Lancelot, but only through Lelouch studying Suzaku's repeated string of movements.

And as for the super robot bit, what can you expect? It's war. Weapons are developed by both sides in a constant Lensman Arms Race (see TV Tropes for that) to outdo and out-perform each other. It's inevitable that they'll stray into highly advanced territory. And the robots are still very real (okay, maybe excepting the SEITEN because that steps into godly territory).

Yeah, I understand. But isn't that too much?
Where have you seen war where fight is decided by just elites?
And everyone else is there just to show how awesome new suit is and how fabulous strategies are.
And Lensman arms race ( i know what it is) is happening too fast in Code Geass.
It was better in S1, when there was only one "super robot" mech - Lancelot. Others were using strategies.

[Dream_Traveller]

Let us not forget Mechwarrior and Battletech as well. Not really animated series at all (though a Battletech anime was made), but they're still awesome real robot examples.

You make a valid point, Ruvixur. But, alas, this anime does not focus on the footsoldiers but on those that are principle characters- and warriors. Still, maybe someone will endeavor to make a log of the unsung mooks and their exploits...or...something.

And be thankful they haven't made faster-than-light planet missiles.

[Ruvixur]

Looking at how powerful SEITEN is...
Isn't Kallen supposed to have death flag now?
Look at Shen Hu
Li, who certainly physically is more powerful that Kallen, use only 40 % output. And it ruined his health.
While Kallen uses 60 % on much more powerful unit? Can she get pregnant now 0_o?
And I can see Kallen trying to stop Lelouch from "leaving", but she falls because of pain.

[Dream_Traveller]

Well, despite rocketing around the battlefield at such a speed, Kallen didn't vomit up blood, or show signs of internal injury through wincing/gasping/clutching at a pain-stricken area of her body/otherwise. And Lloyd obviously designed something to lessen the effects of moving that fast. And Li had his illness before he used the Shen Hu. See Turn 8. Turn 10 was the Shen Hu's first outing.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Ruvixur

Looking at how powerful SEITEN is...
Isn't Kallen supposed to have death flag now?
Look at Shen Hu
Li, who certainly physically is more powerful that Kallen, use only 40 % output. And it ruined his health.
While Kallen uses 60 % on much more powerful unit? Can she get pregnant now 0_o?
And I can see Kallen trying to stop Lelouch from "leaving", but she falls because of pain.

Li had an underlying health problem, tubercolosis or some such and piloting the Shen HU simply excerabted the problem. kallen on the other hand is in perfect health and her mech is probably equipped with something to kill the G-forces.