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Old 2015-05-06, 10:58   Link #7181
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Doesn't stand for Aleister Crowley but Abstract Computer....
Also known as Data Erudite Machine (D.E.M.). It is a powerful Super Computer that is capable of manipulate Events to certain extend......An Anti-magician Super Weapon which is the reason why Magician don't exist in [ANOTHER].
i like the DEM name, can also be rea as one of my favorite words: deus ex machina XD
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[ANOTHER]'s version of magicans. Instead of using religion, they use some sort of Network (similar to Multi-Skill) to use their "magic".

The base concept is still the same: People without talent trying to do things that people with talent are capable of.

Through the use of an Impersonal Reality generator together with a powerful network Server. (Imitating Idol Theory....Deriving "magic" from a Source). a normal human being is able to use Esper's ability through Programs known as Psionics.
this "pogram" stuff reminds me of mahouka-magic, i always thought it would be cool to have a story of toaru but with mahouka-magic-rules
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This allow Psions to have a large variety of powers without the same limitation as Esper (one person one power). However, Psions not only have to prepare their Psionics before hand (every Psionics have an access code), they also have limited number of use (The said access code expire with certain number of uses). In a sense, they are similar to DnD wizard.
mmmhh, i will only give my opinion:
the concept with pograms is cool and the whole "other magic"-version is cool too but i dont like the "limited amount of use for each pogram", it sounds a bit forced,

i think it would be better if you limit the powerlvl of each spell which greatly reduces the normal magicians lvl, at most they should be lvl4, and after making stuff like "star of bethlehem" or "gungnir" they gain some high-lvl powers on par with accels or kakines powers,
it would balance the story more and force your char to use strategy to defeat the enemys who are comparable in powerlvl but not in preparation and spell-specialisation
only my two cents
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The one major limiting factor that prevent Normal normal people from becoming a Psion is: It is difficult to get into. Unless you have the know how, programming a "Psionic" is not as easy as one think.... The Programming code are insanely complex and are getting more complicated with every updates. But if you are rich enough, there are Programmers who sell those programs at exorbitant price.
BIB: i can feel with the ones who dont want to do this
i think the best way would be that you say that by each use the pogram has a self-check-up because it needs to be ready for the next use, like the "compile"-thing by java,
but by each self-check-up it gets unnecassary complex and after a certain amount of numbers the pogram becomes useless, and forcefully trying to use it has heavy sideeffects like destryoed blood-vessels and cooked brains

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Fortunately there is a "Search Index" (guess) who can allow one to find the code they need instantly. Not to mention....there is a special volume within the 103,000 volumes, refer joking as the Book of Law. Solving the puzzle within the "Book of Law" would allow Psions to gain the "Master Key Code" which allow unlimited access to all Server.
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Old 2015-05-06, 12:23   Link #7182
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While revisiting one of my old ideas, it just occurred to me. How much of Hamazura's backstory do we know? When did he drop out of the curriculum? Who were his contacts before joining Skill-Out? I'm wanting to expand on these topics, but I'm not sure if it's already been covered.
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Old 2015-05-06, 15:25   Link #7183
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While revisiting one of my old ideas, it just occurred to me. How much of Hamazura's backstory do we know? When did he drop out of the curriculum? Who were his contacts before joining Skill-Out? I'm wanting to expand on these topics, but I'm not sure if it's already been covered.
Nope, at least as far as i can remember he is unknown and i doubt that he will get a detailed flashback, afterall he should be completly ordinary until after-vol.13...
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Old 2015-05-06, 20:13   Link #7184
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So here's an idea I've been chewing on for a long while...

As a sort-of sequel to my other fic "Zero", this fic would focus on Hamazura's first year in middle school (which would later lead up to his departure from AC's curriculum). I'm imagining that Hamazura had classmates he grew up with since elementary but eventually grew apart from as the differences in powerlevels started showing. Basically, this fic would highlight his feelings of jealousy, inferiority, and paranoia as his "friends" start slowly ostracizing him for staying a level 0.

And all this would occur under a backdrop briefly mentioned in the novels:


Level 0 hunting. Or the sport of hunting down level 0's for the fun of it.


Going over it in my head, there's something interesting with the system of the methodical hunt of another human being. Say, going to a restricted website to find a target, actually finding the target in person, and making trophy pictures of bloodied bodies. And the people who do this are arguably of sane mind

If there's an inconsistency somewhere, please tell me. But other than that, how's the idea?
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Old 2015-05-06, 20:40   Link #7185
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Level 0 hunting. Or the sport of hunting down level 0's for the fun of it.
The most dangerous game of all.

Seems really interesting, and the fact that Hamazura, who is usually discarded in fics, is the protagonist certainly make it even more appealing IMO.
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Old 2015-05-06, 21:01   Link #7186
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I tried brainstorming a few low-level abilities that could show up. I may need some help there.

What's a good name for the ability of: producing light. Or basically becoming a flashlight.

Human Torch?
Flash?

Pretty sure those are taken.
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Old 2015-05-06, 21:19   Link #7187
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i like the DEM name, can also be rea as one of my favorite words: deus ex machina XD
That was the intention....
That's why it sounded a little random....

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mmmhh, i will only give my opinion:
the concept with pograms is cool and the whole "other magic"-version is cool too but i dont like the "limited amount of use for each pogram", it sounds a bit forced,

i think it would be better if you limit the powerlvl of each spell which greatly reduces the normal magicians lvl, at most they should be lvl4, and after making stuff like "star of bethlehem" or "gungnir" they gain some high-lvl powers on par with accels or kakines powers,
it would balance the story more and force your char to use strategy to defeat the enemys who are comparable in powerlvl but not in preparation and spell-specialisation
only my two cents
Ahh...good idea. That's why I post my note for all to see.

High Tier Psionic need better equipment than your average equipments. It's like trying to play a Graphic Intensive game on full setting on an outdated Computer with low spec.

(I think the analogy work because Esper Ability need lots of calculation and Psionic is basically an Emulation).

You are lucky if it even work at all.

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BIB: i can feel with the ones who dont want to do this
i think the best way would be that you say that by each use the pogram has a self-check-up because it needs to be ready for the next use, like the "compile"-thing by java,
but by each self-check-up it gets unnecassary complex and after a certain amount of numbers the pogram becomes useless, and forcefully trying to use it has heavy sideeffects like destryoed blood-vessels and cooked brains
I don't want it to be too dangerous to use. This is ANOTHER universe where AC wanted to limit the number of death so as to do obtain more samples to achieve its goal.

However with that said. Death could only be resulted when you do something crazy like trying to run over 50 programs at once...(the minimum needed if you wanted to be a "Majin")

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becoming a majin?
"Don't be silly, Gods don't exist..."

Psion version of Majin, Transcendent have the ability to alter universe due to having access to all Abilities at the same time. There is still a 50-50 chance of success and failure because.... of above.

To become a Transcendent, the Psionic equipment need to run with its Safety Feature off.

Brain Overload is just one of the nasty side-effect...
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Old 2015-05-07, 00:36   Link #7188
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I tried brainstorming a few low-level abilities that could show up. I may need some help there.
Psss, Rubix, this Ferret may be of assistance~

Just give me an idea as to what level these Espers are and I should be able to lend a hand.

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What's a good name for the ability of: producing light. Or basically becoming a flashlight.
Here's something: Limelight.
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Old 2015-05-07, 06:00   Link #7189
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Psss, Rubix, this Ferret may be of assistance~
Please do. Thinking of low level abilities and how they might work is a lot harder than I thought.

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Here's something: Limelight.
It took a moment, but name's really growing on me. I like it. I also like the idea of how one might keep the light effect going is by drinking a lot of milk.

Including Limelight, I've got three abilities in mind:


Limelight - character can emit light from any point of his/her body
Level ??? (don't know which level this can be classified as)

Lost Time Memory - character can induce another character into a state of dreaming for a minute or so.
Level ??? (same as above)

??? (needs name) - character can keep track one's own hair/nails/saliva up to a certain radius.
Level ??? (same as above)


I tried to think a little outside the box since low level abilities can't be "too useful", though they may be a bit... off. I'm open to suggestions of other low-level abilities if anyone wants to share something cool up their sleeve, but so far this is what I've got.
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Old 2015-05-07, 07:24   Link #7190
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Please do. Thinking of low level abilities and how they might work is a lot harder than I thought.
A problem most of us folk who write in the Toaru universe suffer from. Doing that for the Dark-side of Academy City?

God have mercy on my poor soul, cause I've got a lot of OC's I need to start makin'.

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It took a moment, but name's really growing on me. I like it. I also like the idea of how one might keep the light effect going is by drinking a lot of milk.

Including Limelight, I've got three abilities in mind:

I tried to think a little outside the box since low level abilities can't be "too useful", though they may be a bit... off. I'm open to suggestions of other low-level abilities if anyone wants to share something cool up their sleeve, but so far this is what I've got.
Bring it.

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Limelight - character can emit light from any point of his/her body
Level ??? (don't know which level this can be classified as)
I'd say...maybe Lvl 2 if we're being generous. I'd say that when producing this effect it primarily is done where the entire body lights up and it only lasts for say eight seconds at most. Think of it more like a longer-lasting flash grenade than an actual strobe-light. Nevertheless, still useful, though not useful enough to warrant higher levels.

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Lost Time Memory - character can induce another character into a state of dreaming for a minute or so.
Level ??? (same as above)
Is this like a trance? As in, like, putting someone in the state of 'lights are on, nobody's home' kinda deal? If so, not too shabby, and I'd put it as maybe...Lvl 3. I say that because I can see this person going the same route as Measure Heart from SCHOOL; the closer she was to someone, the stronger her ability was.

Seriously, I can totally see that person being one of the bigger fish in this whole '0 Hunting' thing you mentioned earlier.

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??? (needs name) - character can keep track one's own hair/nails/saliva up to a certain radius.
Level ??? (same as above)
And there's the really obscure one that I never would have thought of. This one's a definitely Lvl 2, mainly due to its inconvenience and the fact that Academy City has already created nano-machines that can do a tracking job much easier and more discreetly than this person could. It helps that range doesn't apply to the nano-devices either, provided the person doesn't know about them and dispatches them appropriately.

As for name, I'm having a hard time coming up with anything myself. About the closest thing I can think of for a name for it is Bio-Tagger and even that makes me cringe. I'll get back to you if I come up with something better, but for now that's all I've got.

Hope this stuff helps you in some way or another.
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Old 2015-05-07, 07:31   Link #7191
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Please do. Thinking of low level abilities and how they might work is a lot harder than I thought.
i have a rather unusual but strong ability:

Forced REM (FREM): user can force the brain to create melanin to a hugh extend until the victim falls asleep, but not more, the victim needs to be in sight of the user (and at most 30 meters away) and the victim needs to be seen for a whole amount of 3 seconds,
but if it is correctly used it can cause the victim to fall asleep for at least 6 hours and at most for 8 hours

the esper is a lvl2
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Limelight - character can emit light from any point of his/her body
Level ??? (don't know which level this can be classified as)
it depends on the amount of birghtness:
as much as a torch: lvl 1
as much as a flashlight: lvl2
as much as headlights: lvl3
as much as the sun(at max): lvl4
as much as a gamma ray (at max): lvl5
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Lost Time Memory - character can induce another character into a state of dreaming for a minute or so.
Level ??? (same as above)
letting them sleep or makign them see dream-like illusions?
either way, how far can he go away before being unable to use it and how many victims can eh affect at a time?
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??? (needs name) - character can keep track one's own hair/nails/saliva up to a certain radius.
Level ??? (same as above)
the same quesitom: how far the range?
either way, i dont see him higher than lvl3, afterall he needs a medium for his powers and the range is limtied :/
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I tried to think a little outside the box since low level abilities can't be "too useful", though they may be a bit... off. I'm open to suggestions of other low-level abilities if anyone wants to share something cool up their sleeve, but so far this is what I've got.
another one:

platform-emission: it is pretty much like ichigos first stage of fullbring where he has a shield out of energy and he was able to throw it:
the esper has a diameter of 1 meter for his shield, the shield in itself is like vibranium, it can absorb kinetic energy
and he can throw it for 9 meters, the speed depends on the users lvl, by a normal throw he is by lvl2, with increased speed of 100km/h he is lvl3 and etc etc
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Old 2015-05-07, 11:27   Link #7192
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@levelseven There a problem with limitations here. That is... I haven't decided what these people are going to do with these powers in the story yet, so I have no idea how what limits I should go after. I'm honestly thinking of leaving those vague for now... but I wonder if it's too much of a Deus ex machina to arbitraryly suddenly say a character can't do something...

@Smokinferrot If not "Biotagger" how does "Bioseeker" sound?
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Old 2015-05-07, 11:46   Link #7193
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@Smokinferret: If not "Biotagger" how does "Bioseeker" sound?
That sounds much better than half-assed name I could conjure up at the time.
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So I finally got off my ass (and the finals being almost over kinda helped), so I tried to write a little something for a planned crossover. It is pretty obvious what Toaru is crossed over with, but anyway, I need a little help: what I have written (a letter to be exact) is more like an introduction than a proper snippet, but I would really appreciate some feedback on how it sounds, if it sounds official at all, if it isn't too awkward, if it isn't too long, etc.

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9 July, 20XX


Dear Reverend Mother Stridberg,

Academy City would like to formally invite you and your school to participate in Academy City’s annual Worldwide Exchange Student Program. It is my pleasure to inform you that your academy has been randomly selected from a pool of thousands of applicants from all over the world, inside and outside our usual international network, which consists of over 120 partner cooperatives worldwide. As such, Academy City usually welcomes and accepts exchange students from its partner schools only, but seeing the outstanding reputation of Reien Girl's Academy and its academic ranking among the top five schools in Japan, abrogate that rule in this particular case was the logical solution.

Both in terms of vision and breadth of available scientific and technological assets (frequently said to be 30 years more advanced than anything else in the world), there is no other science center quite like Academy City. Ever since the implementation of our renowned psychic Power Curriculum Program, we've experienced a high level of interest from many parties. Given that we are a ‘City of Schools’ that is world-renowned for its educational mission, we are pleased by the response, as the attention drives the world even more towards the pursuit of scientific and academic knowledge, our utmost goal.

To that end, we have launched five years ago the City’s Worldwide Exchange Student Program: a randomly selected group of students from Academy City goes to places all over the world in groups of about twenty people in various cities while an equivalent number of children from all over the world are invited to Academy City. The goal of the program is to directly and positively inform students from all over the world and to teach them about the different emerging technologies, cutting-edge developments, and innovative researches there are in our city. Through this outreach program, and in other ways, we are actively seeking collaboration and support to maximize substantive interactions with external business, educational, and government organizations.

This year’s Program will last for one week from 3 September to 10 September. As observers, your students will have the opportunity to meet espers and learn more about the Power Curriculum Program, to learn how PPC-complementary education courses are organized in Academy City, to get to visit a city where cutting-edge science is applied to daily life and to have fun. All local expenses (accommodation, collective transportation, meal, etc.) will be covered by the City. The City being aware of the exclusive all-girls institution Reien’s view of men-women interactions, the twenty students will be lodged at Academy City’s School Garden, in School District 7, an area males are not allowed in, for the lenght of their stay to put your mind at ease.

(You will find attached to this letter a flyer introducing and describing in details School Garden that we hope you will disseminate to your students and/or parents.)

I hope that you will please consider letting your students participate in this program, as a field trip to Academy City can complement and reinforce your school curriculum beneficially while also providing an ideal way to encourage students to have fun while learning. Such an agreement will, hopefully, provide pathways in the future for collaboration between our city and students from Reien Girl's Academy that continue from year to year.

For the exchange students, the mandatory Introduction Day is on September 3, in order to help make the transition to School Garden as easy as possible. The Introduction Day starts at School District 23 Terminal Station in the morning at 10.00 am.

Our website (www. academy-city.com/international/exchange-students) can inform you of the services and accommodations we offer. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

We wish you all the best for a productive and rewarding WESP experience.


Kind regards

Kaizumi Tsugutoshi, Academy City Board of Directors
Academy City of Science and Technology
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I tried to think a little outside the box since low level abilities can't be "too useful", though they may be a bit... off. I'm open to suggestions of other low-level abilities if anyone wants to share something cool up their sleeve, but so far this is what I've got.
I prefer to go with the theme of [useless] (which is technically what Level 2 and 1 ability) are.

Level 1: Bug Puppeteer
Manipulate one insect.

Level 1: Empathy
Able to feel the same emotion as the Esper's target...

Level 1: Color Perception
Change colors on things... by altering the light wave that would have bounce off certain object. In a sense: low level version of that Esper who can control light.

Sticky Hand
Generate adhesive force that enable Esper to...
Level 1: Make things stuck onto him/herself
Level 2: Stick one thing on to another....similar to a magnet, the moment Esper move away, things fall apart.

Level 2: Dream Ranker
Ability to read dream (brainwave during REM stage) and record it on special devices....Could have been level 3 if the Esper could at least read normal brainwave.

Level 3: Force Multiplier
Double Kinetic force of object (that Esper apply power on).
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^Oh god. Those Level 1 powers. Those poor, poor people.
Spoiler for :


@afflictions Sounds official. Plenty of fluff from what I'd expect from an invitational letter (e-mail?). Don't see anything too wrong with it except that the hyperlink doesn't work. Directs me to a japanese 404 site.
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^Oh god. Those Level 1 powers. Those poor, poor people.
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still better than being a Lvl0 at least with the excpetion of shiage and komaba XD
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Actually under the right hand....

Level 1 Empathy can be a very useful skill for the Manipulative.

Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot...level 1 Adhesive force is based on stories about people who can stick things on their body without it falling through their "power"...

Second Edit: Bug Puppeteer can manipulate one insect....as in controlling the Insect like RC car (as in literally, controlling them via Radio wave). Something along the line of Electromagnetic pest control. Power don't work when Electromaster are around (their AIM field affect the Esper's power)

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still better than being a Lvl0 at least with the excpetion of shiage and komaba XD
Actually not much better (if you add up all the Pro and Con) because they are sandwiched between Level 0 (trash) and Level 3 (elite). Especially the Level 1.... their power is close to useless after all.

Skill-out(Level 0) bully them because they are Esper and easy targets (useless power).

Elitist Level 3 look down upon them because they are not part of the Elite. (Especially people from school like Tokiwadai)

Everybody laugh at them (if their power is really goddamn useless). Well, you already had seen how people would react.

Also due to parameter list: Some of them are not even going to get their power develop which means they are going to be stuck in that level.

So it was something like:

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"yay! I am a Esper who can change color of objects....."

*pause upon realization how useless the power actually is*

orz

"Better than level 0..."

*Skill-out appear*

"Crap...."
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*puts thinking cap on*

Actually, those abilities aren't totally useless. There's no reason why color perception can't work on one's own body. So that person can become a human chameleon if you will. Bug puppeteer-ing can be useful if you're controlling the "right" bug. Say attacking someone with queen bee and her posse.

As for sticky hand, god help him.

EDIT: Anyone have any "name suggestions"? I think I've got the main cast down, but just need a few names for extras that appear. Also suggestions for what the title of this fic would be nice if anyone has something in mind... In any case, I hope this project goes well. The framework is simple and probably not as epic as they topic should be, but this is more of my style. I won't be working on this until after I finish that oneshot of a AU highschool deliquent Academy City I might have mentioned before on this site, but I'll definitely return to it.

Spoiler for Cold Open:


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Actually, those abilities aren't totally useless. There's no reason why color perception can't work on one's own body. So that person can become a human chameleon if you will. Bug puppeteer-ing can be useful if you're controlling the "right" bug. Say attacking someone with queen bee and her posse.

As for sticky hand, god help him.
He could be a Spiderman.....climbing buildings. Just pray that Esper's stamina last long enough.

With Great Power Come Great Responsibility....

I am planning to make this a joke in my story. Low Level Esper trying to be a hero because of it. Hiro was inspired because his ability is similar to Spider Sense.

[RESISTANCE]
A group fighting against AC and Darkside of Academy City. Consist of different people and group. At the very worst, they are terrorist with access to same level technology and equipment as Dark-Side.

This organization only existed in [ANOTHER] because AC allowed them to. Manipulating their devotion for Justice to take down Organization from Dark-Side that pose threat to AC.

[DAWN]
A Esper group consist of Three members. Existed only in [ANOTHER]. Part of the [RESISTANCE].

Spoiler for Members of [DAWN]:


Spoiler for [ANOTHER] AC:


Edit:
How Power Level works in [ANOTHER].
Level 5: AC wanted to learn (To achieve higher power)
Level 4: Directors on the Board interested to learn (To develop the Military)
Level 3: Company are interested to learn (to develop household equipment like those Psychic toys)
Level 2: Academic interest. (Weird ability are interesting to investigate)
Level 1: School interested...as in to advance the power to level 2 (Touma and Motoharu is actually Level 1 in this new Power System)
Level 0: Zero interest. Except for few organization who wanted to find out how to make Esper out of them.

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EDIT: Anyone have any "name suggestions"? I think I've got the main cast down, but just need a few names for extras that appear. Also suggestions for what the title of this fic would be nice if anyone has something in mind... In any case, I hope this project goes well. The framework is simple and probably not as epic as they topic should be, but this is more of my style. I won't be working on this until after I finish that oneshot of a AU highschool deliquent Academy City I might have mentioned before on this site, but I'll definitely return to it.
males: (insert a japanese Syllabary)-Taro

Females: (Japanese word)-Ko

Unless the Extra play an important role, I think any random name would do.

As for the title of your story... is there a summary of it?
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