The General Character Discussion of Haruhi Suzumiya

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by freakonboard

Sorry, I forgot to check.
At very least it's bigger.

True, you image is easir to 'read'(but there is someone here reading? ).

Originally Posted by freakonboard

Actually, when anime was first broadcasted, Volume 7 of the novels already published for about a year.

You see, Sakanaka only show up in Volume 8 (her, not her name). What coincidence huh?

Originally Posted by freakonboard

But I think the character designs were done by KyoAni staff.
The source of this pic is Suzumiya Haruhi Official Fanbook ~ Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki, the translated version was done by Chux
Here's the raw page and alternate fan-made version.

Spoiler for size:

Spoiler for size:

That alternate version is interesting. They all have appeared at last once in the old episodes

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

I'm just stating that the names, including Sakanaka's, were already present within the series. As Tanigawa doesn't seem to like randomly throwing out names, it's entirely possible he had intended on using at least one of the students mentioned, and might have already worked out a basic personality for each of them.

You know, I can remember only two characters that were hinted to existe before their first apparition. But both didn't have their name given until we see then.

I undeerstand what you say, and givem how Kyoani have worked with Tanigawa (asking him for the script of any anime-only scene), I believe he was the on who did it. Even then, I think it is probable he only did it for the anime (cause they need concistent background characters) and decided to use it in the novels.

Originally Posted by freakonboard

Kinda related to this thread...

Spoiler for female students in class 1-5:

Source: Comp H's Vol.2

Nice post! There is any translation?

Btw, never had noticied Sakanaka was looking worried to Haruhi in the first episode.Kinda fiting with the 'wants to be friend with Haruhi'.

However, there is a small inconcistence there too. The other class rep (along with Ryouko) is said to be Goto. However, in a screenshot on that last image, the one standing at Ryouko side, when it seen she is talking to the class, is Sakaki.

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by freakonboard

This is actually old, but oh well.

Spoiler for the relationship chart of student in class 1-5:

Where did this come from?

I must have missed it.

[Heatth]

So, I just noticied there is a guy called Arakawa in the class. He is in the left-botton corner and his family runs a Dojo.

His name is not writen in the same way as Arakawa-san. But is a funny coincidence(?).

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by Heatth

So, I just noticied there is a guy called Arakawa in the class. He is in the left-botton corner and his family runs a Dojo.

His name is not writen in the same way as Arakawa-san. But is a funny coincidence(?).

Oh wow i never noticed that.

Heh, Maybe it's ment to be a reference?

[freakonboard]

Originally Posted by Heatth

You see, Sakanaka only show up in Volume 8 (her, not her name). What coincidence huh?

Just to add, Wandering Shadow was first published in The Sneaker April 2006 Issue. (the same month that the anime was first aired.)

Originally Posted by Heatth

Nice post! There is any translation?

None that I'm aware of.

Originally Posted by Tornadium

Where did this come from?

I must have missed it.

http://lolipuni.com/
Ctrl+F to find "１年５組"

Basically it was based on the info on Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki.

Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by freakonboard

Just to add, Wandering Shadow was first published in The Sneaker April 2006 Issue. (the same month that the anime was first aired.)

Good point, didn't know that.

Originally Posted by freakonboard

Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem.

You mean Sakaki right? Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by freakonboard

http://lolipuni.com/
Ctrl+F to find "１年５組"

Basically it was based on the info on Suzumiya Haruhi no Koushiki.

Speaking of Sasaki, man, he's got his own harem.

Thanks!

I'll have a look see.

You mean Sakaki right? Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.

Heh. I wish we knew more about Haruhi and Kyon's classmates. Would be pretty interesting.

I wonder what the other girls think about Haruhi liking Kyon compared to anyone else.

[freakonboard]

Originally Posted by Heatth

You mean Sakaki right? Lucky guy, anyway. Aparently, it is because his 'beautiful voice'. He being the most good looking guy there probably helps.

Yep, that's a typo.
You can psychoanalyze me that in fact I like another (female) character much more than him, and I won't deny.

[TakariCritic]

Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by TakariCritic

Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

He said that a number of espers are in the school. I can't recall him giving any names though.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by TakariCritic

Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

A few guess:

Arakawa- He is actually Arakawa son, but his father change his namewhen dealing with Haruhi,so she wouldn't notice (this is a baseless speculation, btw). Plus, he used to study with Haruhi in middle school

Amane- He was stalking Ryouko. Maybe by the Organization orders.

Naruzaki, Naoki or Saeki- Friends of Sakanaka, who wants to befriend Haruhi. Sakanaka herself is not likely, as the organization as a whole don'ttry to becometoo close of her.

Goto or Takato- No reason, but in the first episode it is shown they (and Arakawa) were in the same middle school as Haruhi.

Taniguchi- 4 years in the same class as Haruhi might be not a coincidence. He is a very good actor then.

[OkamiNoKaze]

Spoiler for Heard it somewhere on here I think:

I've heard the home room teacher is an Esper

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by OkamiNoKaze

Spoiler for Heard it somewhere on here I think:

I've heard the home room teacher is an Esper

I don't remember hearing anything about that in any of the books.

[worldruined]

Originally Posted by TakariCritic

Speaking of classmates, anyone remember Koizumi telling Kyon of the member in his class in the Organization? I'm having difficulty finding it.

Well, there's...

Spoiler:

"Just as you have guessed, the 'Organization' was founded three years ago, and their priority is to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. To put it bluntly, they exist solely to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. I'm sure you understand by now, right? I'm not the only 'Organization' member here in this school. There have already been a number who have infiltrated here before me; I've just been temporarily transferred here to assist them."

He never states, specifically, that there's a member in Kyon's class. Kyon suggests Taniguichi, a possibility that Koizumi brushes aside without ever really answering. It could be assumed that there's at least one agent in 1-5, though, to keep an eye on Haruhi during the day (since Koizumi is in another class).

And just to reiterate from another thread -- "Organization agent" does not necessarily mean "Organization esper". They can and do have agents that don't have esper powers. Koizumi is probably the Organization's first and only esper at North High.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Heatth

*snip*

Where did you hear this from?

Originally Posted by Tornadium

He said that a number of espers are in the school. I can't recall him giving any names though.

Could you provide the actual quote? Because I don't think he said there were other Espers, but other members of the organization.

And it's highly unlikely that every member of the organization is an Esper.

[TakariCritic]

Originally Posted by worldruined

He never states, specifically, that there's a member in Kyon's class. Kyon suggests Taniguichi, a possibility that Koizumi brushes aside without ever really answering. It could be assumed that there's at least one agent in 1-5, though, to keep an eye on Haruhi during the day (since Koizumi is in another class).

I remember reading that there was an agent in class 1-5, and Koizumi stated that the agent was actually a fan of Kyon's. I'm having a hard time finding that quote though.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Where did you hear this from?

I just made up. Of course. As I said, just a few guess. I think in who could be, based in what we know about their characters. It is pretty hard to say, as we don't know much of then. My favorite guess is Arakawa, for now, just because his name (and becauser he might be badass, since his family has a dojo).

Actually, the most likely to be, given the currents informations, is Taniguchi.

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

And it's highly unlikely that every member of the organization is an Esper.

Actually, given there is no much more then 10 ESPers, it is really improbable the organization has only then as members.

PP:

Originally Posted by TakariCritic

I remember reading that there was an agent in class 1-5, and Koizumi stated that the agent was actually a fan of Kyon's. I'm having a hard time finding that quote though.

A fan of Kyon? A girl maybe? How about Yanagimoto? Maybe she dislike Haruhi because he likes Kyon.

A don't remember ever reading this, tough. But I miss many things while reading books in english.

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by worldruined

And just to reiterate from another thread -- "Organization agent" does not necessarily mean "Organization esper". They can and do have agents that don't have esper powers. Koizumi is probably the Organization's first and only esper at North High.

Well i was just assuming that those placed there would be Espers because Koizumi is. I'll conceed that we can't know if they are or not.

Is there any information in the novels regarding membership in the organisation?

[worldruined]

Originally Posted by Tornadium

Is there any information in the novels regarding membership in the organisation?

Off the top of my head... not much.

Spoiler for Volume 1:

"Just as you have guessed, the 'Organization' was founded three years ago, and their priority is to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. To put it bluntly, they exist solely to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. I'm sure you understand by now, right? I'm not the only 'Organization' member here in this school. There have already been a number who have infiltrated here before me; I've just been temporarily transferred here to assist them."

Spoiler for Volume 8:

"If you call him an associate then he is an associate, but he's an associate in a different sense from Arakawa-san and Mori-san. He isn't necessarily a part of the 'Organization'."

Koizumi glanced at the President, who had been puffing the smoke of his second cigarette up to the ceiling,

"He is our agent within the school. To talk a little bit about his motives, he provides us assistance in exchange for certain conditions. If Mori-san and I are part of the inner sanctum, then he is of the nave."

Although Koizumi mentions a "number" of Organization agents, we really only learn the identity of one for sure, and he's more of a mercenary than a "true believer". I think we can safely assume that he, at least, isn't an esper.

Speaking of said person:

Spoiler:

At this moment, Koizumi spoke as well,

"In that case, maybe I should bring a friend as well? In fact, I know someone who's interested in our club..."

I shut him up before he could finish. There's no need to bring your buddies over, they're going to be freaks anyway.

From Boredom; Koizumi mentions a "friend" but this is never elaborated on again. Might he have meant the (eventual) Student Council President, before deciding that the guy would be better off in the President role?

[Tornadium]

Originally Posted by worldruined

Off the top of my head... not much.

Spoiler for Volume 1:

"Just as you have guessed, the 'Organization' was founded three years ago, and their priority is to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. To put it bluntly, they exist solely to observe Suzumiya Haruhi. I'm sure you understand by now, right? I'm not the only 'Organization' member here in this school. There have already been a number who have infiltrated here before me; I've just been temporarily transferred here to assist them."

Spoiler for Volume 8:

"If you call him an associate then he is an associate, but he's an associate in a different sense from Arakawa-san and Mori-san. He isn't necessarily a part of the 'Organization'."

Koizumi glanced at the President, who had been puffing the smoke of his second cigarette up to the ceiling,

"He is our agent within the school. To talk a little bit about his motives, he provides us assistance in exchange for certain conditions. If Mori-san and I are part of the inner sanctum, then he is of the nave."

Although Koizumi mentions a "number" of Organization agents, we really only learn the identity of one for sure, and he's more of a mercenary than a "true believer". I think we can safely assume that he, at least, isn't an esper.

Speaking of said person:

Spoiler:

At this moment, Koizumi spoke as well,

"In that case, maybe I should bring a friend as well? In fact, I know someone who's interested in our club..."

I shut him up before he could finish. There's no need to bring your buddies over, they're going to be freaks anyway.

From Boredom; Koizumi mentions a "friend" but this is never elaborated on again. Might he have meant the (eventual) Student Council President, before deciding that the guy would be better off in the President role?

Heh, Fair enough.

Thanks!