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2012-02-23, 18:13
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I’ve been on this site like 8 years and I can count on my fingers the amount of times I’ve done a quote for quote argument…I mean it’s easy to just put a quote then just say the opposite of that quote, so I don’t like it, but I’ll make an exception because there’s so much to cover…
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Please just leave us in the Matrix and go to Zion…I know it will most likely never happen that’s why I said, “not likely, but interesting...” That’s what it was interesting drivel, not a reason for you to yell at the kids skateboarding in front of you’re home while you scoop up lawn dog$hit (Also know as the 49ners offense)… Quote:
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Me and Dilla were talking about this not too long ago, $hit offense doesn’t = Great Defensive battle…Just because you have a low scoring game where Defense is being played doesn’t mean the other team was getting stopped as much as they just suck…It’s a fools gold argument… I’m telling you, you have no clue who you’re talking too with “That History of the NFL” crap…Whatever you think you know from watching NFL films with old man Wilson, I’ know 10 times more…I usually don’t bring it out for anime forum E-pi$$ing but I don’t mind either… I also have this awesome skill that allows me rub my belly and pat my head at the same time…Which is to say I can have some definite “Old School” football longings, but at the same time I understand and realize that the game has changed and appreciate certain aspects of that changing…Dome stadiums have been around since the 60’s, if anyone was throwing watermelon seeds into brass keyholes, they weren’t doing it as good as Drew Brees… The integrity of the game is a fluid thing...The same kind of people b**tched when the Mel Blount rule got incorporated and the passing game flourished exponentially in the next 10 seasons when the passing records were re-written again and again…The same people b*tched when the NBA put in the Derek Harper rule that banned using the armbar…It’s just the evolution of the game (Inwhich things can be cited in every era ), and while I won’t champion all of it, I do have the ability to compartmentalize it…Can you believe at one time people got pi$$ed the NFL started to let QB’s PASS THE BALL (Alex Smith shutters)… You’re just expounding on your own selfish longing for your version of integrity… Quote:
I invented being anti bro…I admire it, but be anti with a purpose…Brandon Marshall’s catches in that game were must see TV, and if it wasn’t for Cam Newton selling out the entire Hawaii Stadium in the 2nd half, that was on pace to be one of the more entertaining probowl games, but ofcourse you don’t know that because you’re 24 and “old School”  And I remember Tracy Porter doing… Spoiler for THIS...:
Saw that van, today at lunch, no $hit ;p...
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2012-02-23, 22:01
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Oh yeah and going 13-3 and leading the NFL in turnovers is really lucky. Yeah sure okay. I guess New Orleans was lucky they played 12 games in a dome this season. Yeah they were so damn lucky. Quote:
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All I've implied so far is that the 49ers have a great defense and that an explosive record breaking offense isn't everything (as we saw with the Saints and Packers this season) and that folks get way too wrapped up in points scored, etc. Defense wins championships like they say that is why the Giants got themselves another ring this year, because they got their key defenders back at the right time: the start of the playoffs. Hell, they went into Green Bay and beat the snot out of the Packers, something even your team couldn't do. And I wouldn't call the 49ers a "shit" offense just because they aren't breaking records. If that was true, then they wouldn't been 11th in points score, a far more important statistic than yards gained. In terms of integrity, it has nothing to do with selfish viewpoints. There has been a consensus opinion for a while now that the rules have favored the offense way too much. Even with things like the Mel Blount rule, Michael Irvin rule, and other rules were passed, you were still allowed to actually tackle the quarterback and not be subjected to a free 15 yard gain when they got a little boo boo. And I won't even address your implied comment about no one throwing the rock as well as Drew Brees. That's just stupid. Quote:
Sorry grandpa, (look I'm taking a note out of your book) but since when does the point of when you experience a championship matter? As long as you can remember the experience vividly then who the heck cares? Heck, the SF Giants won championship last season, so you can notch that one as well as far as sports is concerned if you want to play that game. I just find it hilarious that Saints fans try to walk around with a swagger now that they finally have a franchise that has walked off the premisses of the graveyard, but before 2006 they had bags on their heads and not nearly the fanbase they have today.
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2012-02-23, 22:02
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Oh and you want to come at me with accusations and jumping on dumb shit and rolling with it? Yeah keep playing that weak sauce "I'm your elder" mantra. Because that isn't a facade when making a crucial point. I guess historians don't know what they are talking about when discussing the Civil War or past presidents, because they weren't alive when the said events or people existed/happened.
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2012-02-23, 22:07
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2012-02-23, 22:35
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...People eating crow click here They're are several more articles, here's an excerpt from one out of Bleacher report from By (National Lead Writer) Dan Levy: Saints fans may have just as big a complaint this season as Steelers fans. Sure the Falcons have to go on the road to face a team with fewer wins, but the Saints lost a tiebreaker with the San Francisco 49ers to miss out on the No. 2 seed — and an all-important bye—and have to face Detroit in the first round. Let's leave aside the fact that the 49ers had a better conference record than the Saints by playing in a mediocre NFC West and getting to face the weaker NFC divisions (San Francisco had the luxury of playing the NFC East while the Saints had to face the NFC North teams). Based on team records, the Saints should be playing the Giants and not the Lions. New Orleans should be rewarded by facing the worst playoff team in the NFC and that team is clearly the Giants, regardless of their NFC East title Wow and to think I'm not even supporting this, i might change my mind now^^...Tell me how people who write stuff are stupid cause erm, they stupid... Seriously you gonna fall on your sword yet? Naaah, not you, not you  ...Additionally, if you can't pass consistently to your WR's in a league that is tailor made for making it easy to pass to your WRs, you have a $hit offense... You've ignored so many other points in my last post that I'm sure you didn't want to address..A good snide move on your part I guess... Quote:
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2012-02-23, 23:06
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There is no need to fall on your sword or even wield it, when it's already through your opponent's chest. Right, because the 49ers didn't pass consistently to their wide receivers in one wet and rainy game. You do realize that they didn't pass the ball as much throughout the regular season right? They had a great run game, and pass primarily to their tight ends (which why you see a lot of huge tight end sets in their formations), which is what Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman did at Stanford. This isn't and never was going to be a huge number offense for the receivers. Quote:
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LMFAO at "fans" of a franchise having a big mouth when their team has been in a dumpster forever. And from the sounds of it you probably witnessed a lot of that shit. Whatever. 49ers sent Nawlins back to the swamp (where they belong) for the time being and that's good enough for me. And they have NEVER beaten the 49ers head on for anything important. Saints fans just straight up don't know how to act. You still got that bag on your head bro? I know you had it before 2006.
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2012-02-24, 00:17
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^Actually the bags were pre-90's before the Dome Patrol, lol OK maybe a couple of Ditka years, but those don't count...
Go watch a movie from your childhood that you thought was great, only to watch it in your adult mind to see WTF were you thinking...Understand the joy of winning a championship...You just don't understand yet... Quote:
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He's throwing thread through needle-holes you HATER (in like 10 straight National Tv games or whatever he's going off)...It's a cyclical argument and you suck at it...Keep saying skewed this and skewed that, every era is skewed in some fashion because the game has evolved in every era...You're just griping about the ones that happened in your prime... It's like when Joe Namath--you know what forget it, dichotomy based arguments are lost on you...Like talking to my Aunt Sylvia over here... You know how many outside games I've seen Brees throw ridiculous pinpoint passes that other QBs in this league can only dream of? Remember that outside game he played in called the Superbowl where he went 32-39, most completions ever? He doesn't play in 8 windy/frozen weather games a year so you'll never know how consistent he would do, but guess what, that's not his or anyones' fault...You play for who you play for, and you either excel or you don't...Keep bringing that butterknife to a laser fight... C'mon thread posters, somebody judge this debate and determine a winner...I know sifting through the sarcasm and pot-shots are tuff, but there's a clear winner here...It's the peanut gallery's turn, DECIDE!
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2012-02-24, 01:51
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Again, do historians that studied the Civil War have no idea what they are talking about because they weren't alive to witness the event? By your logic I guess so. Please, just go sit in the corner. Quote:
So owners can't be idiot fans? Or just plain idiots for that matter? Okay? And you'd be a bust with your tendency trip over your words, or rather not provide impact at all with them. #god awful wisecrack from wingdarkness And I don't see how I'm looking bad here, so I guess that notion carries zero weight, except from your stance. Quote:
As for the offensive set up, it's what happened at Stanford whether you like it or not. Andrew Luck threw to receivers. Sure he did. So did Alex Smith. What the heck is your point? That doesn't mean receivers are going to have monster stats in that offense necessarily. Especially when the offense is designed to set up the run. And who the hell was a phenom in the receiving department at Stanford? Doug Baldwin? Here is a nice blub from ESPN regarding Stanford's wide receiving corps this past season: Quote:
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As for outside conditions, it's not just limited to Brees like you are trying to make it. Before I was talking about dome teams struggling in the playoffs, dome TEAMS. Maybe back in your day they called it clubs? Anyways, I never even hinted that Brees didn't play well outside in January. I'm talking about dome teams outside in the cold. Brees has has two good games in the last two playoff matches outside. And the Saints have still lost. Dome TEAMS haven't fared well consistently outside. Don't get this one twisted too. Oh and I didn't say that other eras weren't effected either. But to use reference to Brees and his performances and say "no one has ever had 70% this, or 400 yard this" and all of your other courtroom case documents full of numbers and claim the crown without question (compared to others of historical lore) is kind of absurd. It's not surprising Brees blew the doors off the record books. We just had three 5,000 yard passers this season. That should tell you the sign of the times. Was Montana a worse passer than Brees because he didn't have a single 4,000 yard passing season in a 16 game schedule? And Brees has been better than Peyton Manning head to toe since Brees has played in a dome because he threw the ball more times? I think most non-bias would say "no" to that. Or rather, there wouldn't be a consensus that Brees would take the crown. This was never even about Brees in the first place. But if someone is going to push the "he's the best best to ever play in a dome card" then I gotzzzz to step in. Can't let the common bystander who reads that get played like that. Yeah I'm a hater. Great counterargument/FAIL.
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2012-02-24, 08:06
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2012-02-24, 12:09
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On the one hand, it's really fun to watch you guys go at it.....
On the other, you gotta admit, this kinda does validate the crtiticism our non-sport fans girlfriends give us when we get WAYYYYYYY too into stuff like this...... Shouldn't we at least talk about Spring Practices gearing up? Or the Draft maybe? |
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2012-02-24, 13:12
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Maybe one day you can experience a championship in your adult-mind…It’s really good stuff, when it's not just big people in costumes wrestling^^…
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