2004-03-27, 19:57 | Link #81 | ||
KAWAIII-III!!!! >^_^ >
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Magical land! (Magica-ru land!)
|
Quote:
Quote:
About the physics.. I stated earlier that I'm a bit uncertain about that one, because he'd have to know some facts.. Like, he doesn't need to know that there is gravity, however, he'd have to know how strong the gravity is (for the shuriken question)...
__________________
|
||
2004-03-27, 20:11 | Link #82 | |
StormRider
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portugal
|
Quote:
EDIT: nh1 i wasn't answering you i was giving my opinion, if i was answering you, you would notice because i would quote you |
|
2004-03-28, 00:51 | Link #84 | |
Aria Company
Join Date: Nov 2003
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2004-03-28, 03:03 | Link #85 |
Senior Member
|
shikamaru had a normal I Q test from his teacher... his teacher disquesed it as a game , but it was a real I Q test.. and shikamaru came out with 200 ... do u know how good 200 really is .. that is increidably high IQ score, and i bleieve the his instructor said it was over 200. the answers to Shikamaru would of most likely been incredably easy... but i'm positive that hinata did infact cheat... she wasnt in the 1st row ..but even if she did her byukugan does a 360 degrees. so she coulda red it from about anywhere... she wouldnt have to turn her eyes on and off she coulda left them on and copied from sum1 the hole time. Also to hide it more acuratly she could of tilted her head down a bit .. let her hair hang in her eyes to hide it more. and even if they did see her cheat that is only 1 point. i'm sure that she did cheat ... and i know they didnt show it but ... i dont think she would of been able to answer the questions.. she doenst study ..she fallows naruto around all day .. watching him from behind buildings and trees
|
2004-03-28, 05:50 | Link #86 | ||
omgwtf?!
|
Are we talking about Shikamaru now? Troublesome...
Quote:
Quote:
edit: double quote went wrong |
||
2004-03-28, 15:05 | Link #87 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
|
I think Hinata cheated, cuz it was never said anywhere in the manga that Hinata is smart. It seems unlikely, given her personality, that she cheated, but under such conditions (like determining if your entire team fails) I think she would have given in and cheated.
|
2004-03-28, 16:49 | Link #88 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Totally in Japan.
|
Quote:
As nh1 said, he would have had all the basics covered in the material during class. Not to compare, but in high school, and in college, I never used/bought my books. Everything you were tested on was covered in lecture...the books are only necessary to help people who don't get it the first time around. But Shika would have probably had all the info he needed. I hadn't studied Physics, I knew that gravity accelerates an object at 9.8m/sec^2 since I was like 10. I knew what pi was to 10 digits. Plus, you're also forgetting an important part of Shika's life. His mom. She gets on his ass all the time. He'd have to prove that he was just intelligent enough to get her off his case. That would involve SOME study. |
|
2004-03-28, 16:55 | Link #89 |
The Burninator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Arrakis
|
The IQ (Intelligence Quotient) score is not based solely upon an innate "genius" factor. It is a combination of reasoning, logic, and knowledge. In order for Shikamaru to have an IQ of over 200, (a ridiculous number, this would put him on the order of the world's greatest minds--smarter than Einstein, Newton, Mozart) he would have to have great tactics, logic, and reasoning, and also a broad knowledge base greater than perhaps everyone in the Fire Country, and perhaps all of the other countries.
Hinata obviously "cheated." She would have no moral qualms because in the case of this test, actual cheating had the prerequisite of being caught. As long as Hinata was not caught attaining the answers to the test, she was behaving as a "proud shinobi" ought to. They didn't show her cheating because A) they had already shown Neji cheating, and B) it would be ridiculous to show every single genin in the room showing off his/her skills when there'd be plenty of time for that in the second part of the examination. |
2004-03-28, 17:13 | Link #90 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Antwerp area, Belgium, Europa
Age: 48
|
Quote:
|
|
2004-03-28, 17:26 | Link #91 | |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Age: 46
|
Quote:
or maybe you are just extremly smart that understand everything the first time just read it then ace the test.. not likely but absolutly not impossible. |
|
2004-03-28, 17:27 | Link #92 | ||
StormRider
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portugal
|
Quote:
By the way you say that you know the speed gravity accelerates an object since you were 10 years? that's really rare, most 10 year old i know i ask them "what's the speed of gravity" and they answer "What's gravity?" Quote:
|
||
2004-03-28, 23:06 | Link #95 |
日本語を食べません!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
Age: 41
|
Doesn't matter. Answers are answers. The objective is NOT to not be caught, but rather to be caught a limited number of times.
Thsi particular IQ test Asuma gave Shikamaru was NOT a knowledge test. It was (from what we can see) a test to see how quickly Shikamaru can identify patterns and (possibly) predict ahead, not to see how well he can spell or how many electrons are in the first shell, how astrophysicists prove the Big Bang theory, how much French he can speak, etc. etc. etc. If he doesn't know that gravity accelerates an object at ~10 m/sē, or that the speed of light is 300,000 km/s, how's he going to figure it out during the test? |
2004-03-29, 00:29 | Link #96 | |
Senior Member
|
Quote:
|
|
2004-03-29, 03:19 | Link #97 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Totally in Japan.
|
Quote:
Quote:
However, you have people like me...people who have an exceptional memory, or people who latch onto knowledge very rapidly when it's presented to them in a particular format. I'd assume Shika falls into the same category of child...an exceptionally fast learner, who just can't bother to pay attention when he's heard the material already. |
||
2004-03-29, 08:16 | Link #98 | ||
StormRider
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Portugal
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
2004-03-30, 10:15 | Link #100 |
The Burninator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Arrakis
|
If the only 'IQ' test that Asuma gave Shikamaru dealt with recognizing patterns (i.e. that game they were playing) then the results are not accurate whatsoever. Speaking as someone who has actually taken a real IQ test (not the kind on emode,) it is much more involved. Knowledge is a factor.
The questions on the Chuunin exam were basically high school level math/science related questions. They didn't seem terribly hard for me when I read them. You have to realize that over 200 is a ridiculous number. If that were truly Shikamaru's IQ, there is a good chance he is the smartest character on whatever world the Naruto manga/anime takes place. His intelligence would be the kind that rivals the geniuses of the ages. He would be operating at a higher level of reasoning and knowledge than -anyone- else. If he actually wanted to get a perfect on the test, (assuming his IQ is really what Asuma said it was) he would have no problem. After all, it is just a test one level higher than genin that even -that- Sakura got the answers to. |
|
|