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Old 2018-08-12, 12:01   Link #13561
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Not sure about his age. But "is" implies that he's still alive. Let's hold off on that for now.
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Old 2018-08-13, 11:55   Link #13562
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Vol 10 first chapter also mentioned that only very few from each country could get selected to be in the A-League. Don't know how many Blazers in the A-League that are from Japan but I'm guessing it doesn't even reach five. Japan might actually have more Blazers that are A-League level.

It's possible that Touka and Moroboshi currently or soon are strong enough to be in the A-League, though they are probably only as strong as the weakest members since even Moroboshi considers most people in the A-League as monsters. Ouma is hinted to be on A-League level already based on a comment made by the announcer during his match against Stella. If Ikki and Stella are in the A-League now, they would rank around 5th.
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Old 2018-08-13, 17:43   Link #13563
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If Ikki and Stella would rank around 5th, I wonder if that means Ouma would also be 5th. I don't think he can higher (although his mana quantity is greater than Ikki's).
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Old 2018-08-13, 18:20   Link #13564
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If Ikki and Stella would rank around 5th, I wonder if that means Ouma would also be 5th. I don't think he can higher (although his mana quantity is greater than Ikki's).
ouma would probably rank lower to both stella and ikki. granted that ouma has greater mana than ikki but ikki is now a desperado like Stella and his going to fight
Isis who is rank 4 in the league, plus with ikki having the strongest swordsmans technique. so that would put ouma 6th placed if either ikki rank 5. but still would be a very dangerous top 6. if I were to rank them right now it would be like that. #1. Arthur #2. nene #3 Isis (until her battle with ikki) #4. ikki or Stella #5. Stella or ikki and #6. ouma. its to bad kurono doesn't fight often she has such great techniques.
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Old 2018-08-13, 19:18   Link #13565
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Should the rank change since the guy who was ranked 2 was killed a few volumes ago

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Old 2018-08-14, 02:24   Link #13566
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If Ikki and Stella would rank around 5th, I wonder if that means Ouma would also be 5th. I don't think he can higher (although his mana quantity is greater than Ikki's).
I don't think Ouma would rank that high, he's probably not much stronger than the average A-League contestant. Stella completely overwhelmed Ouma back in Vol 8 and the gap between them is so wide now. Stella's current strength would rank 5th at best in the A-League and Ouma's strength would rank in the double digits.
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Old 2018-08-14, 04:54   Link #13567
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Wow, for Ouma to be that weak. I feel bad for Ikki. Ouma must be impressed of Ikki by now. We haven't heard from him since the ending of the Festival.
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Old 2018-08-14, 07:53   Link #13568
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Wow, for Ouma to be that weak. I feel bad for Ikki. Ouma must be impressed of Ikki by now. We haven't heard from him since the ending of the Festival.
why feel bad for ikki though his stronger now. well it's not like ouma is weak it's Stella and ikki who are to abnormal for him at this point. at their age they've achieved desperado and their still getting stronger at fast rate , ouma should be worried about tohka and moroboshi right now cause they'll catch up to him soon.
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Old 2018-08-14, 09:52   Link #13569
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@Tyrant Ruler. Ascarid's name isn't Isis, it's Iris. As for why Ikki would feel bad: Tuckersister probably means he'd feel bad about his brother whom he used to kind of look up to being below him now.

@Kasumi: Yeah, the ranking should now that the number 3 is dead. But AP24 is talking about what rank Ikki and Stella would be in if there were in the A-League. They're A-League level, but because they haven't joined yet, we can't talk about what rank they are (they don't have a rank yet).
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Old 2018-08-14, 10:50   Link #13570
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@Tyrant Ruler. Ascarid's name isn't Isis, it's Iris. As for why Ikki would feel bad: Tuckersister probably means he'd feel bad about his brother whom he used to kind of look up to being below him now.

@Kasumi: Yeah, the ranking should now that the number 3 is dead. But AP24 is talking about what rank Ikki and Stella would be in if there were in the A-League. They're A-League level, but because they haven't joined yet, we can't talk about what rank they are (they don't have a rank yet).
Carlo was ranked 2nd actually. But in a tournament everyone's official rank doesn't really reflect their actual rank in strength. For example, Nene was ranked 3rd even though she was clearly stronger than Carlo before he died.

Ikki and Stella are not just A-League level, they are on the level of those who are near the top. If we include everyone in the League of Mage-Knight Nations, they most likely would be in the Top 5 after Vol 15. Kurono and the current Nangou probably would rank somewhere between 6th and 10th in the League at best. Ouma probably would rank somewhere in the double digits. Knights of Touka and Moroboshi's level would rank at low hundreds at best.
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Old 2018-08-14, 11:49   Link #13571
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@DragonOsman yea sorry about that my auto correct change her name. oh so that's why his talking about yea ikki would feel bad for ouma for that.
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Old 2018-08-15, 14:40   Link #13572
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Why did auto-correct change that? I mean, it should know there's a word iris in English, right? What's the colored part of your eyes called (it's iris, if I'm not mistaken)?

@AP24: If Carlo was ranked 2nd, doesn't mean there should be a new #2 now, with the previously lower-ranked knights moving up by one rank? You're right about their ranks in the tournament not really reflecting their actual strength, though, yes. Though maybe it does make people in the series think that Nene is really weaker than the late Carlo was (at least those who don't know about Desperados).
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Old 2018-08-15, 19:01   Link #13573
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well the name isis is also in English after it's the name of the Egyptian goddess so its not surprising it change it to that plus I've been using that name for a while in other discussion. well anyway after this arc nene will probably be rank #2, she should've been rank 2 before she just didn't feel like it because kurono retired so it was pointless for her to aim for rank 2.
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Old 2018-08-16, 00:49   Link #13574
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@DragonOsman: Yeah, Nene should be the new #2 and Iris should be #3 now. Their new ranks are consistent with how strong they really are.

It turns out Vol 10 first chapter didn't really say that the League will lose to the Union in WW3. The League is losing to the Union in the competition of obtaining Rebellion's assets and resources. After the Tyrant dies and the Union gets more of Rebellion's resources than the League, WW3 will happen. Don't know who will win but Japan turning into sea of flames will occur.
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Old 2018-08-16, 09:29   Link #13575
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@DragonOsman: Yeah, Nene should be the new #2 and Iris should be #3 now. Their new ranks are consistent with how strong they really are.

It turns out Vol 10 first chapter didn't really say that the League will lose to the Union in WW3. The League is losing to the Union in the competition of obtaining Rebellion's assets and resources. After the Tyrant dies and the Union gets more of Rebellion's resources than the League, WW3 will happen. Don't know who will win but Japan turning into sea of flames will occur.
Ooooh, so Rebellion is holding resources that both the League and the Union want? Interesting, that actually changes things. We always thought that the League was weaker, but it's just that the Union is getting more resources. Now that this is the situation, I can actually see a higher chance that the Tyrant is Ryouma, because if that's the case, Ikki will be a key factor in this. If Ryouma is Tyrant, than should him and Ikki meet, he could explain more to Ikki and Ikki may even have to take his place to prevent a war to break out. Since Ikki doesn't really seem to care a lot about being a member of the League for example (because we know that his desire is to be a mage-knight and that's is), I can see him trying to prevent the war by picking neither League or Union's side and joining a third party, in this case, Rebellion.
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Old 2018-08-16, 10:45   Link #13576
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Ooooh, so Rebellion is holding resources that both the League and the Union want? Interesting, that actually changes things. We always thought that the League was weaker, but it's just that the Union is getting more resources. Now that this is the situation, I can actually see a higher chance that the Tyrant is Ryouma, because if that's the case, Ikki will be a key factor in this. If Ryouma is Tyrant, than should him and Ikki meet, he could explain more to Ikki and Ikki may even have to take his place to prevent a war to break out. Since Ikki doesn't really seem to care a lot about being a member of the League for example (because we know that his desire is to be a mage-knight and that's is), I can see him trying to prevent the war by picking neither League or Union's side and joining a third party, in this case, Rebellion.
Honestly it was hard for me to believe the Union is more powerful than the League. It's true the Union consists of mostly powerful countries while the League consists of mostly small and weaker countries. But the League has far more member countries than the Union does. Some of the countries that belong to the League are Japan, UK, Italy and France which are quite strong countries.

As explained in the updated summary, some people from the League and the Union have been making secret deals with Rebellion who have members with powerful influence in the world. This probably started when they realized the Tyrant was going to die. The Union probably thinks that it will win against the League in a war if it manages to obtain Rebellion's resources more than the League does.

I doubt Ikki will join Rebellion because it's a criminal organization. If Ikki wants to be a mage-knight then he has to be on the League's side since the League issues mage-knight licenses. If WW3 occurs due to the Union invading League member countries, then Ikki most likely will be on the League's side. The League is about maintaining international peace while the Union is most likely about monopolizing power. I think Ikki will be a key player in stopping the war by defeating some of the most powerful Blazers in the Union.
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Old 2018-08-16, 13:02   Link #13577
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Yes, I agree with AP24 about whether Ikki would join Rebellion or not. It's likelier for him to stay with the League, probably even if the Tyrant turns out to be Ryouma. But yeah, if the Tyrant really is Ryouma, I really want to see him and Ikki meet. It'd be their second meeting since the time Ryouma told him to not give up on trying to become a knight.
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Old 2018-08-16, 17:10   Link #13578
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Any news when the translation will continue? It's kinda behind for such a popular series
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Old 2018-08-19, 12:52   Link #13579
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I've updated Vol 10 Ch 2 summary and checking on Ch 3.

So Kiriko has stopped testing new medical techniques on other people after what happened with Moroboshi, and is now using her own body instead.

After reading the chapter again I realize Shizuku is indeed the only person who can perform healing techniques among everyone close to Ikki. I wonder if from now on we won't see Shizuku fight as much as she did in previous volumes. I'm hoping to see that her training with Kiriko didn't just improve her healing skills but also her battle skills.
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Old 2018-08-20, 00:51   Link #13580
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Is it me or does anyone else think that Ryoma encouraging Ikki was actually a foreshadowing of being a Desperado? Him telling the young lad not to give up as he can be anything he wants to be actually reminds me of Ikki awakening as a Desperado.
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