Guilty Crown - General Discussion

[magnuskn]

It's pretty difficult to see how the series gets the school setting back. But given that a lot of Shu's classmates are in the OP, it seems they will stay a part of the series.

Seems a bit schizophrenic, unless Shu will betray Funeral Parlor... and how he could keep Inoris respect after that I don't know.

[tsunade666]

^ How will they do a beach episode if Shu is in wanted list? specially with Hare and class rep >.> nice swim suit Hare we need a lot more of her

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

^ How will they do a beach episode if Shu is in wanted list? specially with Hare and class rep >.> nice swim suit Hare we need a lot more of her

I hope they're setting him up as the double agent, which would be awesome, since we haven't seen a lot of those characters (from their perspectives); to make this happen, Mr. Clown will probably clear Shu's name temporarily.

I know people told me to not take this show seriously, but I honestly believe there is still a lot of potential to be explored ...

[pinoscotto]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

It's pretty difficult to see how the series gets the school setting back. But given that a lot of Shu's classmates are in the OP, it seems they will stay a part of the series.

Seems a bit schizophrenic, unless Shu will betray Funeral Parlor... and how he could keep Inoris respect after that I don't know.

funeral parlo could win before ep 10-15, so shu can go to scholl (eventually gai would be the final enemy)

[germanturkey]

Yeah, Hare is one of my favorites. "Shuu, if you wanted to, all you had to do was ask.."

[felix]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

I hope they're setting him up as the double agent, which would be awesome

Too bad awesome ideas like this barely ever make it into anime.

[fertygo]

Originally Posted by felix

Too bad awesome ideas like this barely ever make it into anime.

Eh? Its a common trick in Macross.

[bigdeath]

Originally Posted by winhlp32

- I'm not going to question Inori's gravity-defying leaps. I'm just wondering why she didn't use them when escaping with the void genome back in the first episode.

Didn't she do a death defying jump off a bridge in ep1?

Originally Posted by winhlp32

You'd think as the protector of the "law", the GHQ would notify Shu's parents if he gets arrested, since he's underaged and all.

GHQ doesn't protect the law. They there are their to stop an epidemic. Why they need such a large military, mecha, prisions, and have the power to excute how ever they want under the guise of stopping the epidemic is very question. Makes me think that his Apocalypse virus is just a guise for something more sinister.

Originally Posted by winhlp32

- Yahiro broke the sacred "Bros before Otoutos" law. Needless to say I'm not very fond of him either. The whole brother thing was too sudden and felt artificial.

You mean you prefer the previous reason of him being a selfish crack addict? At least this make him sympathetic and gives hope we might see more of his character latter.

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by bigdeath

Didn't she do a death defying jump off a bridge in ep1?

Did she? Anyways jumping off a bridge isn't the same as jumping that high. And it still doesn't explain why only she she seems to have gravity-defying powers.

GHQ doesn't protect the law. They there are their to stop an epidemic. Why they need such a large military, mecha, prisions, and have the power to excute how ever they want under the guise of stopping the epidemic is very question. Makes me think that his Apocalypse virus is just a guise for something more sinister.

Considering how cartoony the bad guys are, as well as the fact that they don't seem to be having fun with what they're doing, I wouldn't doubt it.

You mean you prefer the previous reason of him being a selfish crack addict? At least this make him sympathetic and gives hope we might see more of his character latter.

Yeah, but it goes against his characterization last episode of being a guy with two faces. So apparently, he's just a guy who is being controlled by his selfish desires? I know people have multiple dimensions, but it felt tacked on.

[winhlp32]

Originally Posted by bigdeath

Didn't she do a death defying jump off a bridge in ep1?

If I remembered correctly, an explosion blast from big robot number 382 threw her off the bridge.

And yeah, I liked drug addict yahiro more than little brother-con yahiro more. His "innocence" now seems to enforces the fact that all civilians on this show so far are victims, which seems a little too black and white to me. Oh well.

[miketyson]

She jumped down from the upper level of that abandoned warehouse. It was definitely a big enough jump to be like "whoa, realism?" at the time.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by bigdeath

GHQ doesn't protect the law. They there are their to stop an epidemic. Why they need such a large military, mecha, prisions, and have the power to excute how ever they want under the guise of stopping the epidemic is very question. Makes me think that his Apocalypse virus is just a guise for something more sinister.

Isn't the country still under martial law?

In any case they are still "justified (to the world I mean)" in carrying out their actions and from what we've seen there are still people being infected by the virus.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Our friend the drug dealer isn't more sympathetic now than he was before. Then, he was controlled by his desires. Now he is harming others for the sake of his family. Complex, but still not good.

Thanks to those who pointed out the fall from the bridge and leap from the mezzanine. I wondered how she could survive that blast and fall without obvious harm. It seems to me now that we were already getting hints that she is physically special in ways other than just her glamorous appearance.

Bad guys cartoony? No more than other anime, it seems to me. How about the Brtitannic Emperor in Code Geass? And Segai is being spun into a quite interesting character. Civilians all good guys? Not the drug dealer, in my books.

As an aside, it seems to me that only Americans and Japanese would not be surprised that drug dealer-kun needed to get money to pay for his brother's treatment. In Canada, and I believe in most other countries with socialized medicine, there are no sizeable user fees ("copayments") for treatment that is prescribed. We've already paid collectively in our taxes.

[Xaturas]

This show reminds me Deadmans Wonderland on many levels, less gory for sure but at first I thought they had all that defenses for Kido man as he was the case of virus, but that got blown down halfway trough ep 4.
Still it seems like a copy-cut-paste from many anime shows, some elements from DW some from CG and fanservice and stuff from others.
Hmmm I will watch this show as theres not much good shows for me this season in that department (you know shows with story not some Everyday school life settings, and I'll watch FSN Zero after its all done for 1-3 days marathon).

Ohhh and forgot Didn't read past page 86 but it really seems that inori is some kind of representation of past girl which he reminiscent in ep 1.

[TheDrifter]

this show is alright so far. can't say i like the main character, or the girls. but the dude that looks like a lady seems interesting (gai). and that weird guy that shot one of his own soldiers seems interesting too.

but two characters, one that seems like a side character, and the other that seems to be a boss guy for level 2 isn't enough for me to keep watching the show. fortunately i like the setting so i'll keep going.

[FlareKnight]

Kind of funny that we had all this focus on Shu being arrested and there wasn't even a brief shot at how his mother was responding. The rescue came fairly soon, but wow not even a visit .

No shock that Shu kept the transmitter, I'd probably keep it too. Not much reason to trust Gai who wants to use the power Shu obtained for his goals. Won't tell a thing about his personal motivations and treats Inori (about the only person Shu can trust) much colder than everyone else. He's going with Gai because it's him or the people who arrested him. At this point he's got to keep options open and see where this situation goes. Of course I'd be worried that the second I turned the thing on 20,000 missiles would be instantly fired at my location.

At least we got some fairly good confirmation that Inori isn't exactly human. Well could be some kind of artificial human, a void experiment, clone, cyborg, whatever. Jump power! But also not that surprising that Inori abandoned the plan to go save Shu. Whatever her background it's clear Shu treats her better than anyone else there. In a sense they are both the only person each other can trust and rely on.

Whatever the complaints that was an awesome scene after Shu drew out Inori's void and just sliced up everything . At that point I don't care what makes sense anymore .

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Our friend the drug dealer isn't more sympathetic now than he was before. Then, he was controlled by his desires. Now he is harming others for the sake of his family. Complex, but still not good.

Thanks to those who pointed out the fall from the bridge and leap from the mezzanine. I wondered how she could survive that blast and fall without obvious harm. It seems to me now that we were already getting hints that she is physically special in ways other than just her glamorous appearance.

Bad guys cartoony? No more than other anime, it seems to me. How about the Brtitannic Emperor in Code Geass? And Segai is being spun into a quite interesting character. Civilians all good guys? Not the drug dealer, in my books.

As an aside, it seems to me that only Americans and Japanese would not be surprised that drug dealer-kun needed to get money to pay for his brother's treatment. In Canada, and I believe in most other countries with socialized medicine, there are no sizeable user fees ("copayments") for treatment that is prescribed. We've already paid collectively in our taxes.

Yeah this development of Yahiro being a drug dealer to get funds for his brother didn't make me like him any more than I did before. Now instead of being trapped by that addiction and living that double life, he's just creating addicts out of others possibly by using that reputation he's built up. Creating a bunch of addicts and sucking their finances dry hardly brings up strong feelings of sympathy. Sure I feel for his brother, but that's as far as it goes. If theoretically the kid recovered and found out what his brother did for that recovery he probably wouldn't be that happy.

Didn't think about being from Canada impacting my views on this development. I guess for those who have to get huge sums for serious illnesses it would mean something else to see this situation.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Kind of funny that we had all this focus on Shu being arrested and there wasn't even a brief shot at how his mother was responding. The rescue came fairly soon, but wow not even a visit .

I'm going to assume she wasn't told. Otherwise, what a bitch.

[tsunade666]

Shuu's mother I think as shown wasn't it? in the conversation between head scientist and Segai. Though she was shown working and it looks like head scientist doesn't want his good hot milf scientist disturb on her research.

[orion]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Yeah this development of Yahiro being a drug dealer to get funds for his brother didn't make me like him any more than I did before. Now instead of being trapped by that addiction and living that double life, he's just creating addicts out of others possibly by using that reputation he's built up. Creating a bunch of addicts and sucking their finances dry hardly brings up strong feelings of sympathy. Sure I feel for his brother, but that's as far as it goes. If theoretically the kid recovered and found out what his brother did for that recovery he probably wouldn't be that happy.
.

Not me. My self preservation mode kicks in and I would thank him for all his hard work in saving me.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by GDB

I'm going to assume she wasn't told. Otherwise, what a bitch.

She does seem to be connected to things so possible she was told. Plus sooner or later you figure she'd notice her child not being at school and maybe the school leaving a message about her child getting taken in . Hopefully we get some reaction from her sooner or later. Since otherwise can't choose between "too bad for her" or "what a bitch" .