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haseo0408 · 2018-07-30, 13:17

Spoiler for Harem:

darkofficer · 2018-07-30, 13:32

That's why it sucks that he suddenly goes to oh no i did love my childhood friend at the moment he started to get a harem.

haseo0408 · 2018-07-30, 13:41

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Originally Posted by darkofficer

That's why it sucks that he suddenly goes to oh no i did love my childhood friend at the moment he started to get a harem.

Well recent spoilers tell that he´s accepting Felicia´s feeling´s so there is that, at the very least he didn´t broke her heart.

darkofficer · 2018-07-30, 15:11

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Originally Posted by haseo0408

Well recent spoilers tell that he´s accepting Felicia´s feeling´s so there is that, at the very least he didn´t broke her heart.

but how many volumes did it take.. ?

blitz1/2 · 2018-07-30, 16:49

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Originally Posted by darkofficer

That's why it sucks that he suddenly goes to oh no i did love my childhood friend at the moment he started to get a harem.

I don't see how that sucks, that just means that he is devoted.

Seiya0890 · 2018-07-31, 03:37

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I don't see how that sucks, that just means that he is devoted.

But how can he be devoted if it becomes an harem ?

Rimbo99 · 2018-07-31, 05:19

Basically, who is the best girl in the series?

blitz1/2 · 2018-07-31, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Seiya0890

But how can he be devoted if it becomes an harem ?

Because doesn't he go true harem once Mitsuki comes over, because that was his primary concern was that he didn't want to cheat on Mitsuki while she is over there, so once she comes over, then that shouldn't be a problem as long as Mitsuki is still Youto's number 1.

mark1246 · 2018-07-31, 13:40

Ive seen some LN illustration that childhood friend Mitsuki is pregnant on 4chan. just letting you guys know.....wait WTF!?!

bodo · 2018-07-31, 13:49

^From vol 15

Spoiler for :):

blitz1/2 · 2018-07-31, 15:27

Lol, I am up for that. Sequel would be the son with an giri imouto paradise. AHHHH! SO SWEET!

mark1246 · 2018-07-31, 20:29

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Originally Posted by bodo

^From vol 15

Spoiler for :):

is that the ending, didnt hear any news about that? was she the only girl he bang? if so good for our MC guy for staying faithful to his girl

and let me guess the author cut off the sex scene before anything happen?

bodo · 2018-08-01, 00:01

It's not the ending, she gave birth in vol 15, vol 16 came out a few months ago; don't know if the snu snu scene was skipped, and it was mentioned above, the girl he wanted to stay faithful to made him walk the harem path

... this is similar to arifureta.

Yye1 · 2018-08-01, 08:42

Damn, did the illustrator change or something? Looks quite different from the ones I have seen from earlier volumes. Any links to illustration after volume 11?

bodo · 2018-08-01, 09:19

Spoiler for Illustrations Vol 13-15 :):

Seiya0890 · 2018-08-02, 11:21

Too many harem end for me recently this is quite disappointing.
How many harem novel ended with a proper choice these last years ? Not much I guess T_T.

readher · 2018-08-02, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Seiya0890

Too many harem end for me recently this is quite disappointing.

It's a good thing though? If you make protagonist pick, then make it OTP from the start and don't waste other girls on falling in love with MC. Either have multiple pairings or just leave the girls out of romance. Are you some kind of sadist that you enjoy watching girls cry at the end because they didn't get picked? I sure as hell am not. Series like Rakudai do OTP right. Most of them do it wrong. I can understand harem that ends with OTP in realistic settings (modern Japan and stuff), since it's pretty much impossible to have a harem in those circumstances, but if it's fantasy/sci-fi then either make it OTP from start or end it with a true harem. Otherwise it's annoying.

Seiya0890 · 2018-08-03, 03:12

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Originally Posted by readher

It's a good thing though? If you make protagonist pick, then make it OTP from the start and don't waste other girls on falling in love with MC. Either have multiple pairings or just leave the girls out of romance. Are you some kind of sadist that you enjoy watching girls cry at the end because they didn't get picked? I sure as hell am not. Series like Rakudai do OTP right. Most of them do it wrong. I can understand harem that ends with OTP in realistic settings (modern Japan and stuff), since it's pretty much impossible to have a harem in those circumstances, but if it's fantasy/sci-fi then either make it OTP from start or end it with a true harem. Otherwise it's annoying.

I totally agree with you on this point to make it OTP near the start. And no I don't enjoy seeing other girls cry ( That is why I hated the second part of SAO S1). Basically that is one of the reason I hate harem in general. But many if not most LN are Harem. And I think its quite unfair that MC is the only one with harem, why the other girls don't have their own harem too then ? I am pretty much sure if the girls had their harem too the serie would be rejected by most people who actually enjoy harem...

readher · 2018-08-03, 04:36

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Originally Posted by Seiya0890

I totally agree with you on this point to make it OTP near the start. And no I don't enjoy seeing other girls cry ( That is why I hated the second part of SAO S1). Basically that is one of the reason I hate harem in general. But many if not most LN are Harem. And I think its quite unfair that MC is the only one with harem, why the other girls don't have their own harem too then ? I am pretty much sure if the girls had their harem too the serie would be rejected by most people who actually enjoy harem...

Most of harem isekais are wish-fulfillment stories with self-insert MCs. Do you seriously need to ask why most people would be upset that people other than said self-insert MC get a harem? Let alone a girl...

Those series need to make money and so they need to do what the audience likes, at least in the core aspects. Just think about it, self-insert MC with lots of girls flocking to him = makes sense. A girl having lots of guys flocking to her = doesn't make sense. The second happens in otome, because that's women's wish-fulfillment fantasy.

There are exceptions in some series though. In Grancrest Senki one of the female rulers had two husbands/lovers, while MC didn't even have a harem but rather only one girl.

Seiya0890 · 2018-08-03, 14:55

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Originally Posted by readher

Most of harem isekais are wish-fulfillment stories with self-insert MCs. Do you seriously need to ask why most people would be upset that people other than said self-insert MC get a harem? Let alone a girl...

Those series need to make money and so they need to do what the audience likes, at least in the core aspects. Just think about it, self-insert MC with lots of girls flocking to him = makes sense. A girl having lots of guys flocking to her = doesn't make sense. The second happens in otome, because that's women's wish-fulfillment fantasy.

There are exceptions in some series though. In Grancrest Senki one of the female rulers had two husbands/lovers, while MC didn't even have a harem but rather only one girl.

Did it feel like I was seriously asking ? Of course not, and the reason was obvious like you stated. "self inserted MC" huh ? Does that mean that most harem readers actually feel like they are having an harem when they read it ? And if they ship MC with someone in particular, are they ok if the MC share his "love" (I don't see it as love though) with other girls ? That is something I fail to understand, but maybe this is because I am against polygamy.

LN like Grancrest Senki are quite rare I think, unfortunately.

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haseo0408 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	Spoiler for Harem: Well my main concernnwas knowing devoted to Felicia´s feelings will be return, the girl is so devoted to Yuuto that it was painfull to watching say he loves his chilhood friend in that scene with Linnea and Felicia listening the whole thing.

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bodo shirking idiots ... Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cleavage Age: 75	It's not the ending, she gave birth in vol 15, vol 16 came out a few months ago; don't know if the snu snu scene was skipped, and it was mentioned above, the girl he wanted to stay faithful to made him walk the harem path ... this is similar to arifureta. __________________ Brains are awesome....I wish everybody had one!

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