2015-03-28, 01:45 | Link #1 | |
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Anime and Youth Culture
I am not sure if this has been discussed before but what is it with the Japanese obsession with youth? I know this isn't limited to Japan but it seems as though with any character who is either in their 20s is considered to be an old man age wise despite the fact that there are still young (sort of). I know this may answer my question but I found this on a reddit:
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2015-03-28, 02:17 | Link #2 |
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Youth Culture brings something different to mind at first glance ... perhaps obsession with Youth itself? When I read "Youth Culture" I thought of things like alternative entertainment/media based lifestyles and interests, but maybe that is a decidedly "American" reading of the use of the phrase?
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2015-03-28, 03:27 | Link #3 | |
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2015-03-28, 04:40 | Link #4 | |
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That amkes sense considering how the economy was in the 90s and just plain nostalgia.
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2015-03-28, 05:29 | Link #5 |
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I was under the impression that the predominantly teenage cast in anime was to do with escapism from the Japanese approach to careers, so I guess you have answered your own question. Provided that assumption is correct.
As a European I thought this was going to be about how anime is represented in Japanese pop culture as that's typically how the term youth culture is used. As an adult, its one of my pet peeves about anime and Japanese games. It would be nice to have an older cast every now and then. |
2015-03-28, 08:09 | Link #7 | |
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One thing I'll add to the main discussion is that anime loves it's "coming of age" stories. There might be nothing more common in anime than coming of age stories. Now, you can do coming of age stories with adult main characters. Psycho-Pass, Shirobako, and Usagi Drop are all coming of age stories in their own way, as they all focus on an adult lead character coming of age in a particular profession or as a new parent. But our adolescent years are inherently about coming of age. That's much of the point of those years - Becoming adults. So it's a little bit simpler and more straightforward to tell a coming of age story with teenage characters going through their adolescent years. That being said, I hope more anime studios take inspiration from Psycho-Pass, Shirobako, and Usagi Drop.
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2015-03-28, 09:14 | Link #8 |
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From a western point of view you can still guess why the obsession with young characters. Depending on what kind of story you want to make, young people are better to use because they have a bigger time schedule and to them "the world they can explore" is huge in comparisson to that of an adult. Not to mention that adults can be very boring characters in the sense where they generally don't have a fluid view on the world: their beliefs don't change as fast as those of younger people. Older characters also tend to have baggage, which isn't always desired.
Also I'm pretty sure that most of us had our life drastically change after graduating High school. Some will say that they had more freedoms whilst others didn't. Some even might say that they suddenly gained more obligations. Even in western society it's the young people who characterize the era. When you look at the sixties or the eighties, what adults did was of no importance but what teens and even young adults did marked the era. |
2015-03-28, 11:37 | Link #9 | |
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There's still the occasional Bartender or Otona Joshi no Anime Time, but they've become much less common since the recession. A network like NHK can afford to make something like Hyouge Mono, but the main commercial broadcasters generally stick to shows about adolescents for adolescents.
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That's clearly not the case in the West, given how many popular shows and games have adult characters. I wouldn't have thought Japan is any different in that respect. Of course if Japan is different and they only like shows with characters of their own age group, you may have a point, but I'd be surprised. |
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2015-03-28, 13:02 | Link #11 |
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Even aside from stories with adult protagonists, something I think anime could use more of is stories about teenagers where parents and other adults play a significant role. It's kind of sad that I consider it good if a series features dead parents and has the protagonist(s) deeply affected by that, because at least it gives the absence of parents some importance.
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2015-03-28, 13:19 | Link #12 | |
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Maybe it's a Japanese cultural thing; stories for kids/teens are considered by default to revolve around kids/teens. It's an illogical idea that has somehow taken hold in the anime industry - similar to the "animation is only for kids or for comedy" idea that is so prevalent in Western television. As I've entered my 20's, I have found myself more attracted to anime with adult characters, but they are pretty rare. I don't mind watching stories with teenagers as the protagonist, but it's nice to have an adult in that role. It's rare to see a character my age as a protagonist, but it's almost unheard of for someone to be middle aged or elderly... and that's a shame because there are some really interesting stories to tell with people of all ages as protagonists. |
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2015-03-28, 17:07 | Link #13 |
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I always figured it was because the majority of viewers were teens/early 20s?
I also remember reading about a year or two that high school anime is super popular because it takes the viewers back or something.
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2015-03-28, 17:23 | Link #14 | |
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Combine this with how many male anime fans are able to thoroughly enjoy shows where the entire cast is female, and I'm a bit skeptical of the idea that anime's focus on teenage characters is simply because much of the target audience are teenagers themselves. In other words, I don't get much of an impression that anime fans need to have characters that are just like them, when it comes to things like age and gender/sex, in order to relate to the characters and enjoy watching them. So while I respect SeijiSensi's casualty point, I do think there is a genuine strong fondness for coming of age stories within the anime industry (and perhaps in Japanese culture in general) that may play a role in why anime tends to go overwhelmingly for teenaged protagonists.
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2015-03-28, 21:49 | Link #15 | |
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Most of my viewing of television and movies as an adolescent consisted of shows about adults, largely because that was most of the programming available. Advertisers have never been especially concerned with reaching adolescents either; they've always been much more interested in 18-34 year-olds, especially 18-34 women. Teens also watch less television than adults, though they do make up the bulk of the audience for films. Modern movies may star adults, but the characters have become much more cartoonish with comedies full of off-color gags and low-brow humor, or "action" films with lots of explosions but little depth of character or plot. In contrast, each anime season rolls out at least a couple of dozen series specifically about adolescents, most of which have a high-school setting. I can't ever recall a similar amount of such programming for teens and young adults in the US, especially since the most significant audience for advertisers here has always been 18-34 women. (I'm talking roughly about the period from 1960 to 1990. There has since been an upsurge in programming for the 12-24 demographic on networks like the CW, but that's a more recent phenomenon enabled by the expansion of the number of channels available.) These are broad generalities, of course, and we can all think of obvious exceptions like, say, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But for every Buffy there are half-a-dozen or more police procedurals like CSI.
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2015-03-29, 06:20 | Link #17 | |
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A certain period of life being celebrated as iconic best era is not uncommon in many cultures. For Japan it happens to be high school.
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