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Old 2016-06-29, 13:48   Link #13521
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Why would Waver be sensei? Who is he the Sensei of?
What do you mean by that? Waver IS sensei, it's literally his job. Among his students are Luvia, Rin, Flatt, Grey and many other). He is famous for finding and polishing great talents. Called "Great Big Ben" or "Professor Charisma" and winner of prestigious poll of guy who would female students wanted sleep most.
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Old 2016-06-29, 13:50   Link #13522
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WTF is with your luck these days? Are you sucking mine? Congrats though
Thank you! I don't even want to think about the time when Shishou first came out....

I think it's part luck, and part strategy, honestly. I firmly believe that their system seeds their RNG on a cycle, and at certain times in the day, it is a hot time. I think when people came up with the 2 AM rumor, DW said "oh noes," denied it, and then shifted their seed time to sometime else.

Part of what fuels my groundless belief is when I look at people's rolls and fusion experiences. Sure, you can get them from time to time. But sometimes, there are people who just get whole CHAINS of fortune (Lare, I'm looking at you.) And it's always in the form of consecutive rolls (and not like, each day I do one roll and good things happen)


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I was pretty sure Waver is sensei and Scathach is shisho. At least I don't remember ever hearing it otherwise
On this board, I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are people who have been referring to Scathach as sensei. And then posted pictures of her in pajamas.


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Why would Waver be sensei? Who is he the Sensei of?
Lest we forget, Waver is a full-on professor at the Clock Tower. He's got students, we just don't know 'em


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Semantics.
Actually, I might argue that the difference is like the one between "-san" and "-sama", at least in terms of level of respect. "Sensei" does carry respect, but it's also fallen into common usage (like for doctors), so it can also be just a formality or force of habit. But "shishou" is still....out there. Rarely will someone ask to be called that, and it definitely refers to your mentor.

"Sensei".though...sometimes I get the feeling people refer to her that way because they like the naughty teacher fantasies.
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Old 2016-06-29, 13:50   Link #13523
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It's just like 'envy' vs 'jealousy'. They can be synonyms but yet carry different nuances which would make one an unsuitable replacement for the other in certain context. I can quote some great native discussions and examinations on the difference between the two terms, but they are long and I would be too lazy to translate them. At any rate, I don't feel that sensei is a suitable replacement for shishou in this context and in fact I feel it's actually a much lesser term (if I want to nitpick, I would cry out 'bastardization of their relationship', but I understand not everyone reads moon or even looks up etymologies of moon runes). Like Kakurin already mentioned, no natives call her sensei shrug. Though I'm mildly curious as to how this got adopted by the Western fandom.

Not really trying to get into an argument but thought I'd just mentioned it in passing...

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Old 2016-06-29, 13:52   Link #13524
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Why would Waver be sensei? Who is he the Sensei of?
Because he's literally a professor at the Clocktower.

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Semantics.
Not really. Would you go to a Martial Arts dojo and call the teacher "Professor"?
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Old 2016-06-29, 13:53   Link #13525
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What do you mean by that? Waver IS sensei, it's literally his job. Among his students are Luvia, Rin, Flatt, Grey and many other (including Alex, young Waver and Gudako in FGO). He is famous for finding and polishing great talents.
But is he well known for it? Famous for it? Does it define his character? I think that title falls appropriately to Scathach for being Best Dog's teacher but that's just my opinion. When I hear the word Sensei relating to FGO my mind immediately jumps to Scathach and not Waver *shrug*
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Old 2016-06-29, 13:53   Link #13526
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Why would Waver be sensei? Who is he the Sensei of?
Luvia, Rin, other people at Clock Tower.
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Old 2016-06-29, 13:58   Link #13527
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"Sensei".though...sometimes I get the feeling people refer to her that way because they like the naughty teacher fantasies.
I was actually thinking this as well. Sensei just falls on the whole Teacher Fetish thing. Shishou doesn't really carry the same imho.
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On this board, I can say with almost 100% certainty that there are people who have been referring to Scathach as sensei. And then posted pictures of her in pajamas.
Yep and I'm one of them. And it's sweater not PJs.

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Luvia, Rin, other people at Clock Tower.
I actually had in mind in the world of FGO. Yes I'm sure he taught a lot of Magus over there but I'm thinking more of being well known as someone who taught someone that is famous.
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Old 2016-06-29, 14:03   Link #13528
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I actually had in mind in the world of FGO. Yes I'm sure he taught a lot of Magus over there but I'm thinking more of being well known as someone who taught someone that is famous.
...Shota Iskandar in Rome?


Anyway, I cannot wait for 7th July to know if my iPad will continue to play FGO or not. Can't believe a mobile game can have me so worried.
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Old 2016-06-29, 14:03   Link #13529
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I was actually thinking this as well. Sensei just falls on the whole Teacher Fetish thing. Shishou doesn't really carry the same imho.
Darn tootin'. Ain't no dirty Shishou fantasies.


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I actually had in mind in the world of FGO. Yes I'm sure he taught a lot of Magus over there but I'm thinking more of being well known as someone who taught someone that is famous.
For what it's worth, he's right there in the CE: "Sensei and Me"
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Old 2016-06-29, 14:04   Link #13530
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Resumed rolling now without skipping animation, just enjoying the process and totally in zen mode. It's funny I don't mind getting spooked by Shirley
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Old 2016-06-29, 14:06   Link #13531
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But is he well known for it? Famous for it? Does it define his character? I think that title falls appropriately to Scathach for being Best Dog's teacher but that's just my opinion. When I hear the word Sensei relating to FGO my mind immediately jumps to Scathach and not Waver *shrug*
Yes, yes and yes it does. Also Both dogs refer Scathach as shisho (aka master). No character ever called her sensei. It's sort of like jedi thing.
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Old 2016-06-29, 14:55   Link #13532
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Wouldn't Waver be "hakase"?
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Old 2016-06-29, 15:00   Link #13533
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That's more for scientists/inventors than professors.
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Old 2016-06-29, 15:17   Link #13534
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All magus are scientist/inventors with how obsessed they are of furthering their magecraft.
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Old 2016-06-29, 15:19   Link #13535
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Well, Waver build own terminator so I guess it would sort of fit
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Old 2016-06-29, 15:20   Link #13536
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Being a researcher doesn't make you a scientist or inventor. Neither does being obsessed with something.

Again, he's a professor. It's what he does. Therefore, Sensei.
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Old 2016-06-29, 15:29   Link #13537
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That's more for scientists/inventors than professors.
So the college kind of professor is "sensei" then.
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Old 2016-06-29, 18:06   Link #13538
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Already done with Medea's strengthening quest, currently working on Euryale's

Also noticed that Mashu's lvl cap increased, but she's still on stage 2 ascension...does that mean when she's maxed her level cap will be 80?
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Old 2016-06-29, 20:29   Link #13539
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Already done with Medea's strengthening quest, currently working on Euryale's

Also noticed that Mashu's lvl cap increased, but she's still on stage 2 ascension...does that mean when she's maxed her level cap will be 80?
Huh. I did not notice that.

That's a weird way of doing things. Right now, she's still got a potential max of 70, but like some have speculated, maybe she'll get upgraded to Gold along with her third Ascension.
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Old 2016-06-30, 02:22   Link #13540
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