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Old 2015-06-08, 23:29   Link #11341
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can he just implanted Magic Crystals on his chest as External MP Storage......
"a knight wearing magic armor with Shining Crystal on his chest" "tony stark?"


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and that magic crystal is Supplied by your only trusted lewd Magic Crystal mine Elinalise Dragonroad *pachi x2

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Old 2015-06-09, 20:53   Link #11342
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The problem is that the amount of mana needed to use the armors is to large to be handled by magic stones. If that was the case, they would have done that in the first place instead of Rudy almost dying each time he brought out the Mk 0/1 to fight.

As for any expectations of Akihito, don't make any regarding directly fighting. The charm of Rudy wasn't that he was a fighting hero that wasn't OP. That's completely outside of the points established throughout the story. His value was that he could cooperate with people. He established a lot of good relationships and always happened to know someone who could solve their problems or give them a way to win. He only got that far in Orsted's fight because of Nanahoshi and his wives and the final volume was just showing off all the connections he made.

Since the emphasis on Rudy was that he had strong bonds, rather than being strong, there isn't a whole lot of reason to believe Akihito will break out of the story's paradigm to be like other stories.
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Old 2015-06-09, 21:14   Link #11343
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The problem is that the amount of mana needed to use the armors is to large to be handled by magic stones. If that was the case, they would have done that in the first place instead of Rudy almost dying each time he brought out the Mk 0/1 to fight.
It was mentioned in the biography that his daughter Lily continued the armor research and even made a mass produced version, so it should be more efficient and it could even be possible that she made an armor with an external power source that could be recharged by Rudeus's descendants.
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Old 2015-06-10, 00:48   Link #11344
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two manga chapters about rudy learning of greyrat families and roxy's adventures
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Old 2015-06-10, 06:14   Link #11345
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It was mentioned in the biography that his daughter Lily continued the armor research and even made a mass produced version, so it should be more efficient and it could even be possible that she made an armor with an external power source that could be recharged by Rudeus's descendants.
The problem is that ist MK III armor for mass production. Its power is no where near MK 0/I so if Akihito wearing this powered by magic stone, he still be average. Lara and Christina and Norn's daughter wearing magic armor still far stronger than Akihito.
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Old 2015-06-10, 06:27   Link #11346
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Anyone got high res versions of all the illustrations stockpiled somewhere? I went through all the backlog but all the links had expired.
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Old 2015-06-10, 07:03   Link #11347
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Anyone got high res versions of all the illustrations stockpiled somewhere? I went through all the backlog but all the links had expired.
All the illustrations for the light novel are up on baka-tsuki and the web novel doesn't have any illustrations.
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Old 2015-06-10, 07:28   Link #11348
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All the illustrations for the light novel are up on baka-tsuki and the web novel doesn't have any illustrations.
Most of the one's on Bakatsuki are downscaled or artifacted which is why I wanted to know if someone had archived higher quality ones

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Old 2015-06-11, 02:32   Link #11349
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The problem is that ist MK III armor for mass production. Its power is no where near MK 0/I so if Akihito wearing this powered by magic stone, he still be average. Lara and Christina and Norn's daughter wearing magic armor still far stronger than Akihito.
This, basically. Given the strengths of the people he'll be working with and how the standards of power had changed due to Rudy and his group, it is to much to expect Akihito to be able to contribute as direct offensive power.

The stronger armors are still more exhausting and they weren't as effective as touki to begin with. The main problem was that touki could enhance the mind while armor couldn't.

The only reason Rudy did so well with his armors is that: he had the foresight eye to make up for his slower reactions, and he was diligent in his training, becoming exceptionally good as a swordsmen or combatant compared to others without touki. Remember that the difference between advanced and intermediate was stated to be the presence of touki at the beginning. Rudy was at intermediate level but his skill was above that.

Remember that Rudy had so much mana due to the laplace factor and his constant training since he was 3. Also remember that the household seems to have a policy of teaching the kids magic and swordsmanship from 3 on. (well, that's conjecture from how they handled Lucy who is the only one old enough for us to know) It would make no sense to send him to fight when everyone else seems so much more fit for the job, training for much of their life waiting for this battle. Laplace was only around Rudy's level. If, after 80 years of training/study, Lara took him down ALONE (aside from finding his weakpoint) I wouldn't consider it surprising.

Given everything we know, I honestly have no expectations for Akihito's combat power.
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Old 2015-06-11, 03:09   Link #11350
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This, basically. Given the strengths of the people he'll be working with and how the standards of power had changed due to Rudy and his group, it is to much to expect Akihito to be able to contribute as direct offensive power.

The stronger armors are still more exhausting and they weren't as effective as touki to begin with. The main problem was that touki could enhance the mind while armor couldn't.

The only reason Rudy did so well with his armors is that: he had the foresight eye to make up for his slower reactions, and he was diligent in his training, becoming exceptionally good as a swordsmen or combatant compared to others without touki. Remember that the difference between advanced and intermediate was stated to be the presence of touki at the beginning. Rudy was at intermediate level but his skill was above that.

Remember that Rudy had so much mana due to the laplace factor and his constant training since he was 3. Also remember that the household seems to have a policy of teaching the kids magic and swordsmanship from 3 on. (well, that's conjecture from how they handled Lucy who is the only one old enough for us to know) It would make no sense to send him to fight when everyone else seems so much more fit for the job, training for much of their life waiting for this battle. Laplace was only around Rudy's level. If, after 80 years of training/study, Lara took him down ALONE (aside from finding his weakpoint) I wouldn't consider it surprising.

Given everything we know, I honestly have no expectations for Akihito's combat power.
Well, since he was the target of the summoning he might have gotten some ability out of it, i mean, why would they send him to fight if he had zero ability?

Also, 2 things from the [Biography of Rudeus Greyrat]
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Magic Armor 『MK. III』
The Magic Armor used by Rudeus during his last years.
Its height was a little more than 2 metres and its ability was the same as the 『MK. I』.
This Magic Armor became the basis for the mass-production of the All-Purpose Magic Armor Series later on.
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Zanoba Shirone received funds from Rudeus and was able to successfully develop Magic Dolls.
Dolls that looked exactly like humans were capable of performing chores, tasting poisons, performing reconnaissance, care for you, and perform various such other duties.
Due to its extremely high price and low stock, the only places that these were being used were at the Royal Palace of the country where Rudeus and his friends lived.
If there's powered dolls then there should be Mana Batteries available and if there's an improved Magic Armor to go along with it....
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Old 2015-06-11, 03:12   Link #11351
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Well, since he was the target of the summoning he might have gotten some ability out of it, i mean, why would they send him to fight if he had zero ability?
Except that it doesn't seem he was the target of any summoning though?
He was killed outright, in a single blow the moment they sent him into battle.

They merely "summoned someone from another world" like they were told to do.
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Old 2015-06-11, 03:27   Link #11352
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Except that it doesn't seem he was the target of any summoning though?
He was killed outright, in a single blow the moment they sent him into battle.

They merely "summoned someone from another world" like they were told to do.
Then maybe it will be the opposite of Rudeus, a guy who was considered skillful and popular(i'm guessing) in his world becomes powerless in another.
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Old 2015-06-11, 03:51   Link #11353
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[QUOTE=Sebazu;5559671]Well, since he was the target of the summoning he might have gotten some ability out of it, i mean, why would they send him to fight if he had zero ability?

Also, 2 things from the [Biography of Rudeus Greyrat]


If there's powered dolls then there should be Mana Batteries available and if there's an improved Magic Armor to go along with it....[/QUOTE
Why dont just make a powered doll in the shape of a magic armor? I doubt all the magicians have keen reflexes and even Rudeus mafe use of his magic eye so if they have a self aware armor that will help the weakest ones with slow reflexes.]
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Old 2015-06-11, 04:06   Link #11354
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Magic Dolls still require a way to recharge. A magic doll that doubles as magic armor would waste a lot of magic power very fast, and probably would not be practical, unless they find a way for them to recharge alone.

The Long-term Transfer Circles that the Dragon Race had everywhere work because those locations just naturally have high amounts of magic power. So it doesn't seem there's any method they're aware of to efficiently take in large amounts of magic power from the area.
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Old 2015-06-11, 05:46   Link #11355
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As far as I can tell, the real question is why they would NEED him to fight?

If you have powerful mana dolls, send them to fight instead. If you had skilled magicians in magic moble suits, send them. If you could power the armor with a battery, have someone skilled who developed touki fight with it. There will be plenty of people well suited to fighting there, why would they throw him into the front lines to die again? They would have to go out of their way to develop equipment specifically to allow him to fight. That equipment could just as well be used by someone who already has mana and skill to supplement their power instead.

If he had some power, it would probably be something like the chains they used to seal hitogami for good. If that's the case, they don't need him to fight at the front up until then.

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Old 2015-06-16, 10:14   Link #11356
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From Kaezar's site.
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Kaezar : May as well add more things. Author had given out a list that he will be including in Redundancy volume, the list includes :


List of things he will write :
Norn’s story → We’ve already got this.
Aisha’s story → We’ll probably get this next, maybe Aisha’s marriage(it’s not written Aisha’s marriage story just Aisha’s story)
Zenith & Lilya’s story
Kid’s story → He’s thinking about writing a different story as a spin-off for 1 or 2 kids
Family vacation → Showing the grandkids to Claire-obaasan in the Holy Kingdom of Milis, swimming in a lake, going to a hot springs in Blue Dragon Mountain range with Talhand as guide.
Izolte’s marriage hunting story
President’s everyday life → Along with Lil’ Elf-chan and Alek
Nanahoshi having a meal
Going to the Holy Land of Swords once again
Magic Tournament in the Magic University
Zanoba’s automaton completion story
Luke & Ariel’s afterwards


List of things he’s undecided about :
Dungeon capture by Rudi and 3 wives + α
Julie’s parents story
Adventuring in the Heaven Continent
Vera & Sierra after story


Different from Redundancy volume, things that will get their own title in time :
Shinohara Akito and Kuroki Seiji story
The mischievous young life of Perugius-sama(Laplace war story)
Legend of Kishirika and Badigadi(The second Human-Demon War)
Oldeus’ story(Oldeus = Old + Rudeus = Future Rudeus)
The mystery behind the relationship between Dragon race and Hitogami
Tale of the Black Wolf’s fang
The legend of how Lara and Leo comes to be the saviour
What happened to Nanahoshi in the end
Norn-chan’s heart-warming school days

All of this is merely provisional and subject to change.
So happy right now.
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Old 2015-06-16, 10:35   Link #11357
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The legend of how Lara and Leo comes to be the saviour

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Old 2015-06-16, 10:46   Link #11358
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So happy right now.
SO.AWESOME.

i cant wait, more rudeus storys, mooooooooorrreeeee
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Old 2015-06-16, 20:32   Link #11359
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Frodo Bagins in LoTR is not sthe strongest man in the party but he is the MC anyway. He was surrounded by god like people like Gandalf the Maiar who is at the same power level as Sauron himself, OP Legolas and Gimli, and Princes from Anor, Gondor and Rohan, and some of his merry friend.

Do Akihito need to be OP? No, the main enemy is Hitogami and he can't see people who deffy that world law like orsted, repeating miko and probably nanahosi and Akihito himself.
The matter of perspective is important though. Imagine if you followed everything from Gandalf perspective as main character for a long time, and then get demoted to good for nothing MC as Frodo? That wouldn't be good.

Useless or I should say weak MC are not nothing new, but when you make a MC weakling after your another MC was strong in the same story-line, then you are certain to run into discontent and problems.
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Old 2015-06-17, 05:04   Link #11360
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The matter of perspective is important though. Imagine if you followed everything from Gandalf perspective as main character for a long time, and then get demoted to good for nothing MC as Frodo? That wouldn't be good.

Useless or I should say weak MC are not nothing new, but when you make a MC weakling after your another MC was strong in the same story-line, then you are certain to run into discontent and problems.
I think Its already clear that Akihito will be the MC. The guy who are alien to this world and in the previous time loop got killed instantly at Roa. The author already set the world for him and we already know what kind of world is that. A world that having mana is everything. Having slight ammount will put you higher than other, having tremendous ammount will put you on the big 7. Anyone without mana will be eliminated the world itself.

Gandalf is not MC. He was the opposite of Sauron since both of them are Maiar. He just one of many supporting character.

If you try to make comparison between Akihito and Rudeus then that already a problem since they came from difrent story.

One is reincarnation story for someone who try to start a new live. While the other one is an adventure story on epic war between humanity vs forces of evil.

Akihito story is more like Lord of the ring. He was averange student, a civilian, thrown into warzone due propecy. His only ability is that like Orsted, he can't be seen by Hitogami, the last boss. He was more similiar to LoTR Frodo. He inherit some cool stuff from his grand father which help him on his quest to destroy the one ring. Akihito also inherit some cool stuff from Rudy but due the nature of that world he will never be kick ass like Rudy, but enough to avoid getting killed in one hit like the previous loop. Some OP supporting character also prepared in advance, it took 80 years to prepare or 3 generations.
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