2008-11-04, 17:57 | Link #10601 | |
Even if it just for a bit
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As for the chapter itself well, i actually expected that (oh the drama...) and while many of the others before me said that they expected a good ending, a happy ending whatever, i hope for the bad end (like JC and Temp.) ...yah guess thats all, everyone had said what could be said... oh silly me for having a education.
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2008-11-04, 18:06 | Link #10602 | ||
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And I have to agree with this, too: However, a quick sack-fix would ruin the set-up; sex is not a magical roll of relationship duct tape. Not only is that extremely true in and of itself, but sex is actually the arena in which they're having the problem. Heck, the whole reason the sex with Syn was good for Vivio was because of the level of intimacy and trust she'd established with her; that would have to be repaired first. |
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2008-11-04, 18:17 | Link #10603 | ||
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First things first, what we all knew was coming came. Syn would find out about Vivio's occupation, we just didn't know how. There was always going to be a 99% chance she was going to go nuts, besides on the offchance its the other 1% and she goes "ok your in the adult entertainment industry, what do you want for dinner?" it wouldn't be realistic and well, that would pretty much end the story dead. Second. so far Satashi, things have generally been as realistic as possible. If i was out looking for a partner, and i worked in the adult industry, i sure as hell wouldn't reveal it straight away. However even once say i got into the relationship, i would still expect the partner involved to be mad when i got around to telling them, who wouldn't? As for my take on the whole dilemma thus far. Adult entertainment may be Vivio's career, but even if its sex without the emotion, and its under the pretense of "work" being separate from "social" life. Sex is still considered an intimate act. How can it *not* be considered intimate? and yet Syn is "sharing" her g/f with other people for sexual activities. How would you feel if a person you were dating turned round and said they had had sex with multiple people while they were dating you regardless of the circumstances? i for one would be absolutely devastated. But for the person working in the adult industry, what dilemma do they face, honesty up front or risk waiting? its a tough call. As for my take on what happens now. Whichever way i look at this, It's a relationship breaker. So if i follow through my previous arguments i make it sound impossible for an adult film star to have a successful relationship. heh, and i've got no answer to that one. In any event: Vivio is broken, she felt confident Syn would understand, and surprise surprise it backfired. She hasn't experienced anything like this before, she's come to know theres more to sex than just the act, that when theres full fledged emotion involved, it makes it the ultimate form of intimacy. That's now been taken away from her because her profession has pushed Syn away in............ disgust? would that be the best word to use? Syn is going to be confused as anything. Her g/f, the reserved beautiful girl who rarely shows anything and gets embarrassed easily....... gets paid to be filmed doing something she considers should probably be reserved for her and her alone. Shes going to feel betrayed and dejected. Add to this the fact that their first session of lovemaking was in fact Syn's first time, you've got a *very* deep emotional scar there if Syn follows her idea of being "betrayed". Her first time probably meant the world to her and almost nothing to her partner, at least in her eyes at this point of time. One way i see this, reality check, i can't see them getting back together. I feel like Syn couldn't look at Vivio the same way again, like other people have touched her g/f while they were in a relationship, so intimately, what does that make her to Vivio? Was she anything to begin with? if she was important, would she want to go back to Vivio? Where this story goes from here relies heavily on Syn, Vivio's told her what she does.........can she accept it? as i go back to my previous statement, thats what partners of adult film entertainers have to do i would guess. But one more point i think is important, and sticking with the whole mathematical reasoning made by posters before me. Porn =/= Love Making Porn is for show. For other People to watch. Making love is an act between two people physically showing their emotions. I have a feeling that difference might make an important part in how this story plays out. *Returns to lurkdom after typing a monster response >.>* EDIT: Quote:
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2008-11-04, 18:44 | Link #10604 | ||
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Basically, she doesn't think what to say, she says what she thinks. It makes her words carry all the more meaning, which -as the last chapter shows- is both a good and a bad thing. It also should be emphasized that skipping the thinking part is a conscious action. Syn can think of how to say the things she does, she just generally doesn't. Well now, what to say? It's hard to say this came as a surprise, considering everything had been going so smoothly up until now, finishing it with an 'I don't care' as sweet as it would have been, just would have felt... empty and lacking. That, and we all know it ain't Satashi unless it has some drama, especially with a subject that just begs for some rejection drama. But still, what to say? I can honestly say that the question of 'how would Syn react to a girlfriend in the adult industry' has plagued me ever since Vivio first began hiding her chosen profession from Syn. It made me wonder, regardless of how the Syn in this current fic would respond, how would my Syn, the girl I created, respond to such a situation? I still haven't found the answer to this question. Oh sure, as her creator I can just wave my hand and say 'she's cool with it' and be done with it. In fact, it would be really easy to do that. However, then I would be... how to put this? I'd be forcing a progression on Syn that I wouldn't have thought through. If I make Syn cool with the idea, why do I make her cool with the idea? Has she encountered it before? Does she know people like that? A lot of other questions, ones that I never asked, need answering before I can just say 'yes' and even then I have find a way to play the card believably. While a part of me just wants to handwave it and say its okay, another part fully agrees with Satashi. Syn hates being used, and right now, Syn has every right to feel used. She opened her heart to Vivio, made her desire clear, and yet she was put in the cold again and again, and then after she finally thought she had made it, she finds out that the act she thought would bind them is something Vivio does as a living. Why did Vivio hide it until then? Why did Vivio make her wait if it was just business as usual for her? How true were the words she spoke? How true were her actions? Combine this with Syn's natural stubbornness, and I think there are two long, cold and lonely roads ahead. And those roads won't merge with just a kiss and a smile. As for what follows... I'm curious towards Syn's train of thought more then Vivio's. For Vivio, we can all predict what is going on in her head right now. After all, this was one of two possible actions that the story had been moving forward to, and Vivio's worst nightmare. Syn, however, we have seen relatively little of, both in her life as well as in her feelings for Vivio. How did this impact affect her? How does she feel after what she perceives as having her heart toyed with as an aside between jobs? I'm curious towards this. Last edited by Keroko; 2008-11-04 at 19:29. |
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2008-11-04, 18:50 | Link #10605 | ||||
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Everyone's broken. TT____TT
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2008-11-04, 19:26 | Link #10607 |
Vividly Vivio
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@ thread:So much discussion, and so much to say to everyone. Although I can't give my input, as my input is the story ><, I do want to say something to everyone here:
I'm extremely flattered everyone has such varied and wide views on what's happening and how it could play out. Even though everyone knew this was coming, when it finally hit, it was still enough to have such different views. In all, I'm literally speechless as to the discussion on it. I'm honored to have people like the ones here read my stories. I hope I can finish this one in a way that would be satisfactory to the ones who thought about it so much. I'll try my best. EDIT: Random fact: PS!Vivio is a 25,000 words long @_@ wow, when did that happen?
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2008-11-04, 19:47 | Link #10608 |
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Aw, crap, I missed that line completely. I was just judging by her behavior, which was about as unvirginal as possible (though it does explain why she sucks at kissing...insufficient practice), coming on strong at every opportunity, trying to...well, let's be honest: she was pretty much trying to get laid from the first date.
Hmmm...that might be some interesting character drama there. Could part of why Syn is so angry at Vivio's alleged "cheating" and "whoredom" be a bit of self-directed guilt at her own behavior? After all, she's the one who's been attempting to insert more and more sexuality into the relationship at every opportunity while Vivio was trying to slow things down and create an emotional connection--and now Syn's face-to-face with just how cheap and tawdry sex by itself can be. |
2008-11-04, 21:35 | Link #10610 | |
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2008-11-04, 21:53 | Link #10611 |
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Oh dear, what an emotional chapter
I never expected that Syn would react like that, although somehow is logical, in a manner of speaking, Vivio cheated Syn, well, I think that Syn also overreacted, it's Vivio's job, things that she has to do Well, the things are pointing bad now, I hope that this story will have a happy ending
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2008-11-05, 00:54 | Link #10614 |
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I think I must be the only one that actually feels sorry for Vivio here. In truth, Syn is justified to be as angry as she is; however, I can't help but feel that if she were privy to some of the background information that we are she would have had a far different reaction. And while that seems like an obvious statement, I feel as if I should mention it since there seems to be quite a large bias to one side of this picture...
At first I thought that it was a really cruel way for Syn to find out about Vivio's profession and was going to ship out on the next "reality is harsh and Vivio needs a wake-up call on what is accepatable and not acceptable in a relationship". I thought about it a little more and recalled the prologue: Vivio is very much aware of how inappropriate her profession is, but what she IS proud of is the way she built her life from scratch to something sucessful all on her own (standing on her own two feet was something that Nanoha stressed alot in the series to Vivio). I get the feeling that what Vivio wanted was to share that success with Syn, not as a 'gotta-get-this-load-off-my-chest' but as a 'this is something important to me that I'm proud of creating on my own'. Relationships (lawl or so I am told) are all about sharing moments together - sharing joyous moments, sad moments, moments to be proud of; Vivio is looking to share one of her most important moments and take her budding relationship with Syn to the next level of seriousness. Oh and hi. =) |
2008-11-05, 00:56 | Link #10615 | ||
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Nice build up here, just the right set up for the drama that ensues. Just seeing it breaks my heart. Lllama Drama! Allquall! Well I have to say that was quite the explosive reaction. Everybody has kind of said all my reactions (in many words) so I'll keep this short. This was pure evil and I can't wait to see what you'll drag Vivio through next. Quote:
@Rustau: Hi and welcome! Embrace the crack, it's good for you. Anything you might possibly need is under Satashi's signature. @Thread: Random fact for today: Obama won the U.S presidential election. (Just a fact not supporting any party).
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2008-11-05, 01:38 | Link #10616 |
Even if it just for a bit
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Spoiler for Wolf and Girl pt 8:
...Climax (and ending) near (like in 5/6 parts). No, no action in this (thanks free-action plot) @Rustau Welcome posts lots and forget your sanity at the door.
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2008-11-05, 01:46 | Link #10617 |
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Thank you! Actually, I've been lurking this thread for the past 4-5 months now SO I know just how crazy (messed up) some of you guys are.
I usually just don't post anything because I'm not a writer (nor plan to be one =( ). I do enjoy editing and critiquing work, but usually it doesn't come off so well when you have no proof of your own writing =X. BUT, that last chapter (and all the responses it got) wow'ed me enough that I had to leave my opinion =). Interactive discussions like that where everyone has a different outlook on the situation is great. |
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2008-11-05, 03:38 | Link #10619 | |
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I know you're being sarcastic, but this is 99% of what's wrong with this thread.
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Pretty much agree. As far as I'm concerned, Syn has every right to be pissed off because as far as I'm concerned Vivio is now a damn whore and gets anything that comes to her from here on out, preferably something as negative as possible. I'll admit, I haven't been keeping up with this story at all, if only because the idea absolutely repulses me in many many ways. I absolutely despise pornography and everything about it, find no interest in it, and can't stand it when people talk about it. Hell, I won't even write lemons, and going into lime territory is more than enough for me. And this is coming from someone who used to read them all the time. When I finished Home/Bodies waaay back in the day, I decided I was done. I don't care if there's romance attached anymore. Me + reading/watching/looking at any sort of X-rated content is over. No, I don't care if it's a well written story. I don't care about the drama. It's about porn. This is why I didn't want to have an appearance in this story, Satashi, because I hate, hate, hate it. This is one of the stories you'll write that I'll never care about. I don't care how amazingly fucking popular it is, or if you go on for twenty more chapters, you will never catch me reading this... drivel.[/rant]
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2008-11-05, 04:07 | Link #10620 | |
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Vi's a professional, I'll give her that, but I think Syn pretty much called a spade a spade. Vi chose to be a porn star, which can only make things worse. As to Syn's pov, it probably seems like Vi lied to her, and broke a promise doing so. I dont' think she'll ever understand Vi's reasons for going to work that day, even if Vi weren't in the porn industry, because Syn's train of thought will likely get stuck on 'Vivio broke a promise for money'. She wouldn't give a damn that Vi wanted to spend that money on her. And I wouldn't date a porn star for health reasons lol. edit: Oh wow, another top post. Page claim for unclaimed pages! |
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