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Old 2013-11-17, 11:54   Link #9141
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Old 2013-11-17, 14:26   Link #9142
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Elsie's Sister is said to be a genius.
Nikaido highly respects Akari and she is the source of her strong powers. This means that she is a genius even though she has the body of a child
AFAIK Akari is a noble(I believe it was mentioned in a chapter but I can't recall which chapter) which explains why Nikaido uses the "sama" title when referring to Akari.

I don't think the other demons would be making fun of Elsie if she's also a noble.

edit: after checking it wasn't explicitly stated that Akari is a noble but it is somewhat implied since Nikaido made a reference to "Roman Holiday"... so Akari may be a princess.
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Old 2013-11-17, 14:31   Link #9143
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AFAIK Akari is a noble(I believe it was mentioned in a chapter but I can't recall which chapter) which explains why Nikaido uses the "sama" title when referring to Akari.

I don't think the other demons would be making fun of Elsie if she's also a noble.
Probably an earned title like the retainers of feudal Japan. Elsie hardly looks like a noble, or behaves like one.
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Old 2013-11-17, 14:33   Link #9144
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Probably an earned title like the retainers of feudal Japan. Elsie hardly looks like a noble, or behaves like one.
She doesn't have to. If she is part of a noble family, then they would have treated her like one because of her name alone.
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Old 2013-11-17, 15:56   Link #9145
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As long as we going for Wild Mass Guessing Elsee or LC is really Lucifer lord of hell without her memories.
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Old 2013-11-17, 16:15   Link #9146
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Nothing stated that Akari was really nobility. The author did state she was the same type of person as Kiema if she is Elsie's sister it may explain why she is focused on Kiema as he reminds her of her sister. Given how Elsie described her as being a demon among demons she likely commands a lot of respect. The fact that the author did make a point to reinforce Elsie never saw Akari makes it highly suspect that she is someone that Elsie could identify.
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Old 2013-11-17, 16:21   Link #9147
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WTF?! explain ...
Look at Kanon's post

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Nothing stated that Akari was really nobility. The author did state she was the same type of person as Kiema if she is Elsie's sister it may explain why she is focused on Kiema as he reminds her of her sister. Given how Elsie described her as being a demon among demons she likely commands a lot of respect. The fact that the author did make a point to reinforce Elsie never saw Akari makes it highly suspect that she is someone that Elsie could identify.
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Old 2013-11-17, 17:11   Link #9148
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Nothing stated that Akari was really nobility. The author did state she was the same type of person as Kiema if she is Elsie's sister it may explain why she is focused on Kiema as he reminds her of her sister. Given how Elsie described her as being a demon among demons she likely commands a lot of respect. The fact that the author did make a point to reinforce Elsie never saw Akari makes it highly suspect that she is someone that Elsie could identify.
Like I said it was never explicitly stated but with Nikaido's comment about Roman Holiday and the honorifics she uses it somehow implies that Akari might be royalty.

And please don't argue that Elsie uses "sama" for Keima too. Elsie's usage for "sama" is way different from Nikaido's.
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Old 2013-11-17, 17:46   Link #9149
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Like I said it was never explicitly stated but with Nikaido's comment about Roman Holiday and the honorifics she uses it somehow implies that Akari might be royalty.

And please don't argue that Elsie uses "sama" for Keima too. Elsie's usage for "sama" is way different from Nikaido's.
Adding to this, Akari seems to have the Scythe of Testament which is stated to be awarded to the best student or a demon of a noble birth in the Hell. And Haqua's scythe is the first to be given to a non-nobility demon which implies that the scythe on Akari is her proof of nobility even without being stated.
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Old 2013-11-17, 20:19   Link #9150
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Like I said it was never explicitly stated but with Nikaido's comment about Roman Holiday and the honorifics she uses it somehow implies that Akari might be royalty.

And please don't argue that Elsie uses "sama" for Keima too. Elsie's usage for "sama" is way different from Nikaido's.
No, she used dono while high in respect is not commonly used for royalty anymore that would be sama ,oujo , oujosama or hime.

while-dono denotes high status on the part of the person being addressed, it does not imply lower status on the part of the speaker, unlike-sama. It thus serves as a face-saving way for high-ranking characters to address others of high rank. Today, it's considered slightly less respectful than-sama due to the lack of self-humbling.

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not sure where you got she has the Scythe it's not shown anywhere in the main story or omake.
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Old 2013-11-17, 22:07   Link #9151
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not sure where you got she has the Scythe it's not shown anywhere in the main story or omake.
Chapter 187, pg 17-18, Akari is clearly holding a Scythe of Testament, albeit a used one with one of the notches broken.
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Old 2013-11-17, 22:55   Link #9152
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Wow. If it is truely Nikaido then Keima scores more player points by having older woman calling him onii-chan~. /applaud. Now I'm even more stocked to see Keima to go back to his present self.
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Old 2013-11-18, 00:27   Link #9153
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Yeah if really does turn out to be her, which i dunno why it wouldnt be, its gonna be a cool scene to see how she reacts to him once he knows who she really is. Will she cut the tsun and go completely dere, or will she still act cold. Cant wait
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Old 2013-11-18, 01:07   Link #9154
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No, she used dono while high in respect is not commonly used for royalty anymore that would be sama ,oujo , oujosama or hime.

while-dono denotes high status on the part of the person being addressed, it does not imply lower status on the part of the speaker, unlike-sama. It thus serves as a face-saving way for high-ranking characters to address others of high rank. Today, it's considered slightly less respectful than-sama due to the lack of self-humbling.

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not sure where you got she has the Scythe it's not shown anywhere in the main story or omake.
I have no idea about the original japanese text according to the wiki she uses -sama and not -dono.
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Old 2013-11-18, 01:51   Link #9155
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Bait and switch theory. What if the little girl isn't Elsee but her big sister. Rimuel/Akari and Elsee conveniently miss each other.

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wow... i really like your guess about miyako.. just like nikaido, she's not just a background character...

and look at that, how will the band react to that considering all of them, except elsie, is conquered by him.. and they love him back.. xD
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Old 2013-11-18, 02:01   Link #9156
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@NoirX and trenton_dawn

Nice observation there. I totally missed that scythe. =x
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Old 2013-11-18, 12:17   Link #9157
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Can someone point me to where it said Haqua's scythe is the first to be given to a non noble demon. I have not been able to find it.
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Old 2013-11-18, 12:39   Link #9158
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Can someone point me to where it said Haqua's scythe is the first to be given to a non noble demon. I have not been able to find it.
ch161 page 10

recalling all these small details is tough =x
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Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.
Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you!
Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!
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Old 2013-11-18, 12:41   Link #9159
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wow... i really like your guess about miyako.. just like nikaido, she's not just a background character...

and look at that, how will the band react to that considering all of them, except elsie, is conquered by him.. and they love him back.. xD
Keima is definitely tempting fate saying he wont save Miyako if it ever comes.

Oh as long we are going for Wild Mass Guessing I heard an interesting one that the reason why Urara's grandpa is not aging is that the Shiratori are a family of Monobails. Holy Crystal Albatross his previous manga alien names after birds. Oh the irony. Mappy and bullies being previous characters there during middle school indicates a shared universe.

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Old 2013-11-18, 13:07   Link #9160
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ch161 page 10

recalling all these small details is tough =x
They only say "good families" not nobility. There is some indication Elsie's family may be well off as she could live in the dorms while Haqua could not.
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