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Originally Posted by KiharaRonin
I know I'll be attacked for this and I bet this is gonna be an awesome volume but I have to address this. People are overhyping this volume because it starts of the Aleister Arc. Sure, Aleister has been planning for awhile and yes it's been a long wait but seriously.
I'm glad you said your opinion and i respect you and your opinion but the plot barely goes anywhere in this PV, the characters have the same personality as usual, and I don't see an action in this preview. Most of it is comedy or stuff we already know. You're not the only person. Every forum that discusses this series has people hyping this because it's the Aleister Arc. My favorite are the one's who say this will be the final arc which makes them even more hyped yet if their favorite long lasting series actually ended they'd probably be sad. I respect everyone's opinions and I'm not saying don't get hyped at all. I'm saying go in to this volume with an open minded knowing this is Kamachi's story and he's writing it the way he wants. He isn't writing a note to God, he has just decided he's reached the perfect spot to tackle Aleister. Maybe, this volume will be the best but we can't treat it like Zelda fans treated Ocarina of Time when the volume doesn't release for 4 days and we probably won't see more pages get translated until after that. So just please keep open about this but don't over hype it. If it doesn't end up living up to your hype as alex_drian said in his own unique way, you'll feel sad and disappointed just as others feel after hype for a supposed Index III announcement.
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You're putting Kamachi on too high of a pedestal IMO. Read the author notes, he's just a human (at least he thinks so). He isn't god.
I'm excited for this volume because of the PV. My comment wasn't overhyping things.
I spent an hour reading the prologue... yes more than an hour on those few lines.
This is because I was aware that he put lots of symbolism in there on purpose. I found it quite interesting to be honest, and a lot of it is still murky, but it is sure to become more clear as this novel progresses.
IMO there are a lot of reasons why I like this volume more than usual. For one, the fanservice has been reduced. Two, Tsuchimikado is back and his character interactions with Touma were pretty interesting. For one, I was interested in the trust between the two of them and Touma's personality where he feels no need to ask for more details since he expects Tsuchimikado to know what he's doing and since he trusts him. Three, the part about how wearing less makes you stronger was f'ing hilarious.
Four, in the short prologue itself, I was extremely excited because we were given a ton of information. I really enjoyed the way it was handled. It was surprising cause it made Aleister seem really different than the old image we had of him, but a lot of the specific things said there were quite interesting IMO... The thing that interested me most about the prologue were the specific quotes that were chosen and interspersed within the text. It was interesting figuring out why those were the important ones that were telling the relevant parts of the story. It's quite clear that those weren't just randomly picked by Kamachi. The themes are heavy and deep and this time around the symbolism is quite deep. My favorite aspect is how we're finally tackling Aleister and his goals. We've been waiting for this for forever. I hyped NT 9 to death, and it was better than I expected, and I expect this to far surpass NT 9 so meh. I've never been disappointed so far, so I'm not worried at all. Based on all of the elements we've got so far, I really am excited for this novel. Maybe you weren't as impressed as I was, but the evaluation I gave in my previous post, I still feel the same way right now even after time has passed since reading it.
To be precise, the fact that Tsuchimikado and Frau couldn't tell Kamijou something and he was okay with it and now we're finally getting into the real details behind everything going on, I'm quite excited. Also, the other reason I was really excited became obvious... Kamachi just now had a section about how it's extremely hard to get out of AC and that people can get shot at by site and etc. Well if we think back to OT 4... when they went to the beach and back in pre OT 1 when Index must have entered AC, something else must have been the case instead. So my suspicions are that ... this is implying that there's an important secret--soon to be relevant detail about Index that we're going to learn.
Moreover, some other things I noticed that made me excited which were more than enough sufficient reason for hype... the person who died was Aleister's first daughter... emphasis on first... I think it might be implying he has another one. And... the fact that both Aleister and Laura are end-game fuels my weird speculation that Index is their kid or something somehow. Well either way, I was mostly just happy getting confirmation on Aleister's M.O. The reason I like it is that it reminds me of something else that I'm really interested in, and it's the only time I've ever seen a character in fiction portrayed like that so I'm really excited to see if he's going to handle it right. So far, he's doing it. But I'm really excited because right now Aleister is finally being explored and I love what we've been shown about him so far in the prologue. I'm interested in his goals, his plan, his motivations, and his ideals moving forward...
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Originally Posted by Kuroageha
Raise your hands if you thought Aleister Crowley was the end game.
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Hmm... I think he will be the end game, but only after he stops being the end-game for a bit. I might be wrong, but it seems possible. He seems too mad and obsessed for anything else to be a possibility. Don't forget that Last Order hasn't been ... touched by him in a long while. Either way, I think Aleister is interesting... his personality is so different from Touma's ATM that I don't feel like Touma can say much to him about anything really...
All I expect to happen this volume is for Aleister to be temp suppressed by them as they escape, but I fully expect him not to lose.
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Originally Posted by Natsurin
...and literally no one raises their hand.
It was rather obvious from the way that Laura and Aiwass kept their game much more well-hidden than Aleister that he wouldn't be the ultimate boss. It comes off as hardly a surprise, I just hope Kamachi will know better than to set up some crap for the real last boss and finale of the story when Aleister would've been fine.
I mean, I would've liked Aleister being the final boss as early OT had hinted, but when does this series ever does anything I like anyway? 
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I agree with what you've had to say about Laura I guess. But I disagree with your evaluation about Aleister. The prologue literally spelled it out. The difference between Aleister and the others is that he doesn't have serial plans, he has parallel plans. It doesn't matter if you know everything that he's doing. He uses his failures and what you know against you. For him, taking any actions at all, no matter how dumb they look, means stepping closer towards his goal, cause he's getting more information for his next step... I think this is going to be the cornerstone of what ends up happening. Aleister is "human," but even if that's true now... that doesn't mean it'll always be true... or maybe because he is "human" he's even stronger... Index does show that individuals are strong after all...
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Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero
It's just the cycle of a new volume dropping, right now people might be praising it out of pure head canon alone but after they read it it's going to be "the worst volume yet" or something.  |
Eh, I never join in with that. I complain when people do that. I love all the new volumes. I fully expect this one to surpass NT 9. My expectations are really high.
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Originally Posted by Marcus H.
Followed by Aleister jobbing to Laura Stuart.
Remember, we're on NT, where Magic Gods were introduced only to job to Kamisato, only to job to Yuiitsu.
Kamachi, just end this. I don't think you're completely into this series anymore.
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I don't know why you get that vibe. I felt that a little bit, a while back, but this volume feels completely different from the usual, it felt way better. Well, to each their own, I guess.
Also, I fully expect Aleister to not be as weak as you people think. But I guess we'll just have to see.
Also, is anyone else dreading that future moment which is sure to come where some doujin author will create a doujin with a panel at the end joking that Aleister drew the doujin to let off some steam and make fun of the people in it since they've been pissing him off in-verse and giving his plans trouble?
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