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Also, when Demi says cattle, he really means something else. - Tak
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2018-09-20, 05:36 | Link #742 |
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Damnit, Fwarlord! Even though I am mostly on your side in terms of the actual discussion, WHY THE HELL did you revive it when we finally moved on for like 3 pages! This kind of necro is even worse than the ones where people "answer" posts from over 5 years ago...
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2018-09-20, 07:20 | Link #743 | |
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Pulcinella in S3 revealed more into demiurge's plans: breeding between humans and non-humans (aijin). This confirm what the Abelion sheep are. Spoiler:
personally, if going over level 30 makes one a hero in the human kingdom, it would make 99.99% humans in the new world on the scale of utter weaklings.
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2018-09-20, 09:52 | Link #744 | ||
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Fluder thought he was the bomb for being able to wield 6th tier magic, then he realized Nabe can wield 8th tier, followed by Ainz who is beyond 10th tier. That episode should have been more detailed, because Fluder coming to that realization was a highlight of Volume 9. - Tak
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In the first place eating the corpse is at least for me only a minor problem. And while killing might be bad, it's not like humans don't do that. Btw. I doubt humans of that world would avoid eating troll meat, yet trolsl are sapient and can speak. Quote:
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Let's be fair. Ainz is here neither to ruin nor save. He is here to rule, he declared as much back in Volume 1.
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So if they're deceived then.
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2018-09-20, 13:17 | Link #749 | ||
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in the mmorpg, human players hunt non-human players just for kicks. Quote:
when he saw ainz's unsealed power, he went into awe and immediately wanted to serve ainz with everything he possessed. it would imply he wasn't arrogant of his mastery, but more like a lonely magic otaku.
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2018-09-20, 16:29 | Link #750 | ||
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The twisted sense of morality of Nazarick NPCs was a direct result of actions committed by 'Humans'. Karma is a bitch. Quote:
IIRC, I think Ainz later gave him some random in-game book from YGG, and poor Flunder fell onto his knees immediately. I have a feeling if Ainz pissed in a cup, he'd drink it. - Tak
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2018-09-20, 17:49 | Link #751 | |
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Despite all the "it is gray" or "you have to see from their perspective", people also think that the corrupted nobles are absolute evil and the only solution is killing them all (and a fuck ton of other people as collateral damage).
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The word "evil" is not something we invented. The author himself pitches his work as a story where the protagonists are evil. Seriously, most of those characters have a -500 alignment in their character sheets. What is there to argue about? Those "humans" are not from this world. Those "humans" are not even human, they are Players. So I fail to see how you can use the word "karma" here.
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2018-09-20, 18:11 | Link #752 |
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Not quite the same. Nazarick as rulers is a case of "high risk, high reward" for the population, meanwhile the corrupt nobles are a definite bad thing for the population and the only hope for improvement is if decades later the heir happens to be not corrupt and more skilled at administration. And who that's only if they are super lucky.
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That, and they were programmed this way because of how Ygg was set up. OTOH, I never disputed their actions as being evil, though I am disputing the notion that they (the NPCs) think it is. Aside from this, when NPCs interact with humans, are the latter ever viewed as equals? Nope. Quote:
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I really recommend novel readers be more careful and stop posting anything from outside the anime things in the open, whether it's something the anime skipped or not. This is the last time I post a warning about this in this thread.
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2018-09-21, 10:34 | Link #758 |
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Relevant excerpt to on-going discussion from an audio drama from vol. 10, doesn't have any spoilers regarding the main story. It deals with a table top RPG that Ainz plays with his guardians:
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With this it should be pretty clear that as long as humans are under Ainz's rule, the guardians will probably not move against them.
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