Guilty Crown - General Discussion

[Archon_Wing]

Originally Posted by Haak

You guys are total amateurs. This is how it should be:

InorixAyasexTsugumi >>>>> Everything else.

Naturally. Although this tends to happens lot of series where the male lead tends to be such fail. =p

Incidentally, the writer also did Mai-HiME, where yuri pairings were dominant because while there were incidental male characters, not a single pair of balls could be found in the whole series.

It's a proven fact that at this point that Sex Toy x Any female > Shu x Anyone

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

I had pointed out earlier that a transmitter doesn't have to be transmitting at all times. If it only sent out a signal every day or so, then it would be just as undetected as it is now. Besides, it's not as if the terrorists took any precautions to find possible tracking devices.

How about we go with something simple. Maybe they simply didn't have enough time to put something elaborate like a timed transmitting pen. Plus if they simply fire at one particular moment it's hard to say who they will hit. Shu could be sent out to get the groceries for all they know . Leaving it as an item that must be activated by code ensures they will get Gai which the key and likely many of his comrades at the same time. Once they fire that thing at the signal once...they aren't getting a second shot . I think it's a stable enough explanation for the series.

[Cosmic Eagle]

GHQ can call themselves GDI now....Sanitization to contain spread of crystalizing mutative agent, satellite weaponry, mechs.....


I think Shu may be the only person with eyes to see here. And that Kenji of course.

[DXMichael]

The part with Shu finally being recognised as one of them was nice. Throughout the entire episode they all doubted him and treated him pretty badly.

As for Inori, i'm not sure whether what she said was true, but I kind of hate her now for using Shu. It was lucky he lost that pen/transmitter earlier, otherwise it would have ended pretty badly for Funeral Parlor, because you could see the desperation in Shu's eye once he saw Inori go into the room with Gai. The smile of disbelief and lost hope really showed Shu's feelings towards everything...He really was only there for Inori, and now that he knew the truth, I'm sure he would have activaed the transmitter if he had it.

As for Gai, I doubt he's dead. Scenario's like this always happen and yet they reappear a few episodes later.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

How about we go with something simple. Maybe they simply didn't have enough time to put something elaborate like a timed transmitting pen. Plus if they simply fire at one particular moment it's hard to say who they will hit. Shu could be sent out to get the groceries for all they know . Leaving it as an item that must be activated by code ensures they will get Gai which the key and likely many of his comrades at the same time. Once they fire that thing at the signal once...they aren't getting a second shot . I think it's a stable enough explanation for the series.

Agreed. That works for me.

Also, I think that the term "terrorist organization", while useful for possible sociopolitical commentary, is perhaps giving a skewed perception of Funeral Parlor.

Funeral Parlor seems to me to be more of a rag-tag insurgency force, albeit one extremely well-armed.

Honestly, GHQ vs. Funeral Parlor reminds me a bit of GDI vs. The Brotherhood of Nod in Command and Conquer games, only this time "GDI" is in the antagonist role.

You could even draw a bit of a similarity between Gai and Kane. Kane somehow survived a strike from an Ion Cannon, which was basically GDI's version of an Orbital Death Ray.

Well, now Gai was reportedly in the strike zone for the Leukocyte, GHQ's version of an Orbital Death Ray...

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Agreed. That works for me.

Also, I think that the term "terrorist organization", while useful for possible sociopolitical commentary, is perhaps giving a skewed perception of Funeral Parlor.

Funeral Parlor seems to me to be more of a rag-tag insurgency force, albeit one extremely well-armed.

Honestly, GHQ vs. Funeral Parlor reminds me a bit of GDI vs. The Brotherhood of Nod in Command and Conquer games, only this time "GDI" is in the antagonist role.

Even the Apoc virus is more like Tiberium....Code Geass? More like CnC lololol

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by DXMichael

The part with Shu finally being recognised as one of them was nice. Throughout the entire episode they all doubted him and treated him pretty badly.

As for Inori, i'm not sure whether what she said was true, but I kind of hate her now for using Shu. It was lucky he lost that pen/transmitter earlier, otherwise it would have ended pretty badly for Funeral Parlor, because you could see the desperation in Shu's eye once he saw Inori go into the room with Gai. The smile of disbelief and lost hope really showed Shu's feelings towards everything...He really was only there for Inori, and now that he knew the truth, I'm sure he would have activaed the transmitter if he had it.

As for Gai, I doubt he's dead. Scenario's like this always happen and yet they reappear a few episodes later.

Yeah I expect this whole Gai bombing thing to give some insight into how much the group needs him to function. Kenji wakes up at the worst time and that personality should ruffle more feathers than Shu's ever did .

Was good to see some acceptance at the end. Does show that results do matter to these people. Besides just hearing about some super ability is different from seeing it in action.

[MrTerrorist]

And Gai is Kane? Preposterous!
Kane is a great man, a prophet, a grand speaker, an ingenious strategist and he's awesomely bald!
All hail Kane! And Kane lives!

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by DXMichael

The part with Shu finally being recognised as one of them was nice. Throughout the entire episode they all doubted him and treated him pretty badly.

As for Gai, I doubt he's dead. Scenario's like this always happen and yet they reappear a few episodes later.

Why do I have the feeling more mistreatment is coming up? Anyways, the preview for the next episode not only gives away Gai's condition (guess what it is), it also shows something that I wished happened in this episode.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

And Gai is Kane? Preposterous!
Kane is a great man, a prophet, a grand speaker, an ingenious strategist and he's awesomely bald!
All hail Kane! And Kane lives!

I admit that Kane is a much better character (so far at least) than Gai, lol.

But I really do have to wonder if Guilty Crown borrowed some inspiration from the Command and Conquer games. Some interesting overlap there.

[JediNight]

It seemed to me it wasn't a blood transfusion so much as kidney dialysis maybe? I guess I don't know what those machines look like exactly. But theres no way you could give a transfusion 2-3x a month. Then again that could explain why Inori always looks so sickly...

Someone else brought up a good point with them test-firing it on the LN troops. Will they someone try to blame Funeral Parlor for the attack? Also: they seem to have the worst security and tracking ever in this show. Funeral Parlor can move missile batteries and mechs around the city with impunity it seems. They also were able to approach that military landing strip without anyone questioning them either...

[ZGMF-X10A]

episode 5 was pretty good. Can't wait until the OST is out. The background music is really nice.

[thundrakkon]

As Gai is 17 years old, I wonder what his Void will look like once Shu pulls it out. It either will be one awesome weapon, or maybe just a piece or rock.

If I had a serious guess, it would probably be a crown or a super advance gun that manipulates people's thoughts.

[ZGMF-X10A]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

As Gai is 17 years old, I wonder what his Void will look like once Shu pulls it out. It either will be one awesome weapon, or maybe just a piece or rock.

If I had a serious guess, it would probably be a crown or a super advance gun that manipulates people's thoughts.

wait I thought the void that Shu pulls out is what the person is afraid of? Did I miss something in the previous episodes?

[felix]

Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

wait I thought the void that Shu pulls out is what the person is afraid of? Did I miss something in the previous episodes?

If that's true, all the students in the school have some serious psychological problems.

But anyway. It wasn't explicitly mentioned anywhere, and I don't buy into this theory.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Naturally. Although this tends to happens lot of series where the male lead tends to be such fail. =p

Incidentally, the writer also did Mai-HiME, where yuri pairings were dominant because while there were incidental male characters, not a single pair of balls could be found in the whole series.

It's a proven fact that at this point that Sex Toy x Any female > Shu x Anyone

I think it's cause that's the way they want it. If it were up to them they probably wouldn't even have a male character cause they "get in the way" so they try their best to marginalize them and only try to use them when they have too. The results are interesting to say the least.

[blakstealth]

Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

wait I thought the void that Shu pulls out is what the person is afraid of? Did I miss something in the previous episodes?

I'm pretty sure the Voids are reflections of the person's heart..or something like that. Inori mentioned it in ep3.

[playmaker2k]

I'm just glad that they finally focused on Ayase, she's already going up my list of faves in this series. She's a tough woman and that's always a well addition to any genre.

It seems that the two of them have good chemistry together. I'm not trying to imply a shipping mindset or anything, but he can learn a few things from her about raising his confidence since she knows a few things about what it means to really struggle from day to day.

I gotta say it though, the doujin circles are going to go crazy over the NTR implications of Shu seeing Inori walking into Gai's love nest. Shoot, it's writing itself already...LOL

[blakstealth]

The ultimate Ayase-in-that-nightgown stitch. Courtesy of N Log N EG. It's very big, so here's the url instead.

http://nlognfansubs.files.wordpress....rown_stich.png

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by karice67

If Funeral Parlor were indeed such an organization (and if they aren't, which is suggested but not confirmed by this episode, then I think Gai's an idiot...), then what Segai has done makes complete sense. If GHQ wants to cut off the head of the snake, just tracking a third party who probably won't always be with the target is pointless. They have to know where Gai is with 100% certainty, or they'll waste what may be their best chance to get rid of him.

The terrorists don't use a cell system. They're organized more like a rag-tag army.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

How about we go with something simple. Maybe they simply didn't have enough time to put something elaborate like a timed transmitting pen. Plus if they simply fire at one particular moment it's hard to say who they will hit. Shu could be sent out to get the groceries for all they know . Leaving it as an item that must be activated by code ensures they will get Gai which the key and likely many of his comrades at the same time. Once they fire that thing at the signal once...they aren't getting a second shot . I think it's a stable enough explanation for the series.

If the GHQ were competent, they would be using the transmitter as a way to find out where to send their assault teams. They have the run of the country, it their resources are basically limitless. Since we know that the GHQ is completely incompetent, this ends up telling us more about the terrorists' lack of precaution instead.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

GHQ can call themselves GDI now....Sanitization to contain spread of crystalizing mutative agent, satellite weaponry, mechs.....

Nah, GHQ is a much better name. You've got to remember that the term was originally used to refer to MacArthur during the occupation of Japan.

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

I think it's cause that's the way they want it. If it were up to them they probably wouldn't even have a male character cause they "get in the way" so they try their best to marginalize them and only try to use them when they have too. The results are interesting to say the least.

Actually, Shu's character archetype seems to be very popular among Japanese otaku.