(L) Re:Creators

[Jerseykid]

I hope Sota is going to have more impact soon. I get all upset when the everyone but the MC is doing more

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by Jerseykid

I hope Sota is going to have more impact soon. I get all upset when the everyone but the MC is doing more

What exactly the impact you are expecting?
The MC has contributed a lot than people thought if MC is so useless than Selestia would never met her creator now.
I swear people are blindfolded to branded MC being useless just because his wimpy protagonist archetype.

[RDNexus]

@.nicky, I think I read somewhere that you may be new to Anime in general.
Here's some relevant advices to you:
1. Try to keep your attention at all times. Hints, references, small details and such may show up out of nowhere.
2. When having doubts, ask nicely and don't throw your theories, criticisms without being totally sure. It can easily trigger other members.
3. You'd better waste a few minutes or such doing some Google searches when picking a story to watch/read, since relevant information might have been given to the public beforehand. This is more relevant when it comes to Anime.

Re:Creators is being a great story. The problem is that, for casual watchers, it may not mean much because it throws quite the nice amount of references that only regular watchers may catch on.


I noticed Souta had been quite silent for most of the episode. He already mentioned being a spectator of these events, at best, so it's to no surprise if he stays in the sidelines until the plot puts him back into the spotlight. But, despite what he said, he's no mere spectator, he really seems to be the bonafide MC of the story, since MUP has a sort of connection to him.

[_Ninja_]

Sota wants to be a creator and Selesia is even encouraging him. But if you knew your creations could be literally alive somewhere would you even be ok with making anything. Anything other than a paradise where everyone is happy.

[RDNexus]

The human mind can be quite funny sometimes.
Even knowing there's the potential of something dangerous being created, you can bet there are those eager to take the risk or simply don't care.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Flower

I just had a crazy idea ... what if the girl who killed herself is herself a creation of the MC but who somehow "broke the fourth wall" and created the MUP as a revenge of sorts against those who "took her place of interest" in the MC's interests by creating something that could annihilate and control the whole context of creativity in general?

That's an interesting idea....In that case, the girl needs to know Souta by setting, and has a will to rebel against her creator. What she did was to write something about Souta himself(so he is part of the world she created) and also created Himegimi to execute that revenge, providing her with the power to break fourth wall. It becomes a paradox that while the girl is Souta's creation, there is another Souta being her creation, who in turn created the girl....Logicially it's like two mirrors facing each other having infinite reflections but there is always an original. That's a possibility and may be we're just looking at one of the reflections.

Originally Posted by Greenish Growth

They never did say what happened to Charon in the first episode. Did he get pulled away somewhere too? I've been wondering about that. It sounded like MUP did something to him.

In the original text she said: "It's not your campanions who have vanished. You are the one." So I guess she didn't do anything to Charon.

[DragonXX]

Originally Posted by cabman11

So apparently Rei has been trying to get this anime made for YEARS and it was originally meant to be an original story featuring characters from various real works including Fate and be a battle royal.

The reason it failed? The different creators kept bickering over which one of their characters was going to win it and how the story should go.

Oh well.

Saber VS Mikoto never.

Is this true or are you just being funny because this would most likely happen and a list of creators and characters who were going to be in this original story.

If this was answer somewhere before hand I didn't see it because I just gotted here.

[Culaio]

Originally Posted by _Ninja_

Sota wants to be a creator and Selesia is even encouraging him. But if you knew your creations could be literally alive somewhere would you even be ok with making anything. Anything other than a paradise where everyone is happy.

This is good question, also imagine you are creator of very dark story where a lot of innocent people die, what would you do when you find out everything horrible thing that happen in that world happen because of you...

what would you do if you were creator of berserk or black bullet(there are many more but those two are first ones to come to my mind)...

[xSauriaNx]

Damn this anime gives me hope for the Spring Season... tbh, others aside from some few are disappointing enough to drop from the very first ep...

Damn, this show reminds me of Kamen Rider Ryuki (Not Fate :P). Chosen ones from different lives(series+media) are present for a some unknown cause not stated yet in the show.

Tbh, I thought this was going to be some another kind of wimpy-looking MC whose existence in the story is like a damn fish bone stuck to the throat. He's not though, wimpy-looking as he might be, he seems to represent a huge weight in the show. And I like that. I want characters to have some good weight in the show but that's just my personal preference and it will not carry any weight whatsoever...

Overall, I'm quite excited for this one. Now going to the charas:

Spoiler for Charas:

Mizushino Souta: Generic glasses boy as he can get. That's how he impresses me but he do sure serves as a big pivot for the plot. Him and his relation to Setsuna and Gunpuku no Himegimi is quite the interesting also intriguing one. I always like this kind of story so I give him a pass. He's not that unlikeable either.

Celejia: As expected of a redhaired chara... hotblooded as she can get albeit reasonable and I do like that part of hers. The fact that she can be an onee-san character for Souta will be great. Souta in the story is suffering some personal problems which her alongside others will give him the push to solve those problems. Especially towards his mysterious relationship with Himegimi.

Meteora: Her name itself reminds me of that gun in Summon Night carried by Calis. But she's not like that gun albeit the two are "green"... xD
She, being a softspoken but talks like a gatling gun exposition chara is adorable. It's like making Tio Plato narrate a long essay in a fast manner. Gluttony for food for charas like her is another plus. But enough of that, Meteora at first, thought as a boy. She didn't speak the first time she appeared so I assume that she was a boy but oh boy glad to be wrong. A Librarian Mage is always a plus in my book. I wonder if her curiosity can lead to some good parts of the plot. Hope that she do. She's like a walking death flag to my eyes though.

Mirokuji Yuuya: This guy is like if Accel's attitude itself goes Jojo Universe. No f***s given and will do what he wants to. Likeable but I wanna see more to fully like him. I shall consider him Chaotic-Neutral for now.

Kirameki Mamika: Supposedly the innocent Mahou Shoujo who faces the dark reality called Truth. Ally of Himegimi but I do find Himegimi to be more worth it than her. OP did suggest that she'll be in school and I do hope that being in school will help her character out. She did act far more childishly as she was following her character setting so I can't just count that on her. Waiting for more eps to give final thoughts about her. She might redeem herself and be one of the great characters instead... xD

Alisteria February: Only shown for a brief moment in the show though her scenes in the OP does suggest that she's a stubborn, stick to the rules woman. As a knight, probably she's with Himegimi might be because their desires coincides with one another. Probably right?

Matsubara: I did not expect him to be great nor bad. In fact, I'm happy that he's like that. Original Creator for Celejia but not the medium he used in the same where Celejia came from. Already suggested to be part of the protag's gang. Him and Celejia's antics were quite funny and yes, the two of them do look like a father and her rebellious daughter... xD

Marine: Her VA's Horie Yui right? It gotta has to be her right?! RIGHT?! I'm liking her already. Maybe have a bit of loose mouth but I don't count that against her. Too early to brand it to her yet... xD

Gunpuku no Himegimi: Probably the most interesting character in the show. Serving as the current antagonist but I am sure that he'll be by Souta's side soon enough. Calls herself as Setsuna's forever ally and knows Souta to some degree perhaps, he knows the entirety of himself. And yes, the last thing. Those eyes.... THOSE BEAUTIFUL ALLURING EYES!!! STARE AT ME MORE WITH THOSE ALLURING EYES!!!

Setsuna: Hints of Setsuna leads to that one girl who committed suicide at the train station back in episode 1. She occasionally appears at the OP scenes.

Now for a bit of theory:

Spoiler for a bit of theory:

Himegimi did mention that Souta and Setsuna used to be part of the world that banished Setsuna. Kinda gives the hints of Himegimi being the creation of Setsuna and Souta. Probably, societal standards got in the way, which lead to Setsuna committing suicide.

I'm just doing a far-fetched thinking here but:
I do believe to what Souta said in the first episode, he may be the narrator instead.
And telling the story above other stories. The protagonist where everything revolves them is Himegimi herself. I mean she's doing something towards the creators and probably has to do with Setsuna.

Welp... that's just my take on it... xD

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by DragonXX

Is this true or are you just being funny because this would most likely happen and a list of creators and characters who were going to be in this original story.

If this was answer somewhere before hand I didn't see it because I just gotted here.

I am glad he went with this direction, it would be a total chaos by using real fanfiction work. Nobody want to see their characters lose plus the story will be so convoluted to follow due of every authors ego, real fanfiction battle royal the best to implemented at game format like Marvel vs Capcom.

[_Ninja_]

Originally Posted by cabman11

So apparently Rei has been trying to get this anime made for YEARS and it was originally meant to be an original story featuring characters from various real works including Fate and be a battle royal.

The reason it failed? The different creators kept bickering over which one of their characters was going to win it and how the story should go.

Oh well.

Saber VS Mikoto never.

I shudder to imagine the fans bickering over that...

[Avrorrange]

Is it just me or is Sawano Hiroyuki's really stagnating?The OST of this series is just a complete rehash of his old work.Not only that,in my opinion,it's feels awkward and out of sync with the atmosphere of the series?

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Is it just me or is Sawano Hiroyuki's really stagnating?The OST of this series is just a complete rehash of his old work.Not only that,in my opinion,it's feels awkward and out of sync with the atmosphere of the series?

The OP is fantastic. And, yes, I've heard other works from Sawano.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Is it just me or is Sawano Hiroyuki's really stagnating?The OST of this series is just a complete rehash of his old work.Not only that,in my opinion,it's feels awkward and out of sync with the atmosphere of the series?

It does sounds similar to Aldnoah and (to an extend) Kabaneri & Seraph. His composition for Titans & Kill la Kill is still pretty unique though. So far, his absolute masterpiece (for anime) is still his work in Gundam Unicorn. IIRC that was the work that made his name as big as it is now in anime industry (those who like Sawano's works should check it out). Idk, maybe he's not in the mood to be extra creative for this project and opted for being servicable since he also worked on Titans 2 this season and Blue Exorcist last season .

[ReddyRedWolf]

Interesting theory cropped up. Sota hasn't met MUP before but she has met him before... Or a least a fictional version of himself.

Theory is Setsuna created MUP and in her story Sota was in it.

This could be why Sota a Creator was able to travel to Celesia's world. As MUP was there.

What did Sota call himself? A narrator. Narrators can also be characters.

Sota became a pseudo-self insert character who gets drawn to MUP's shenanigans even if she doesn't want it as that is how her narrative goes.

Now if this is the case there is still the possibility MUP is a self insert reincarnation of Setsuna.

[IceHism]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Is it just me or is Sawano Hiroyuki's really stagnating?The OST of this series is just a complete rehash of his old work.Not only that,in my opinion,it's feels awkward and out of sync with the atmosphere of the series?

I find that music composers and artists in Japan don't stray too much from their image. Maybe once in a while, they will release something experimental but most of the time, they do something similar to what they have done before. Sawano, just like Kajiura, basically got typecasted.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

It does sounds similar to Aldnoah and (to an extend) Kabaneri & Seraph. His composition for Titans & Kill la Kill is still pretty unique though. So far, his absolute masterpiece (for anime) is still his work in Gundam Unicorn. IIRC that was the work that made his name as big as it is now in anime industry (those who like Sawano's works should check it out). Idk, maybe he's not in the mood to be extra creative for this project and opted for being servicable since he also worked on Titans 2 this season and Blue Exorcist last season .

Originally Posted by magnuskn

The OP is fantastic. And, yes, I've heard other works from Sawano.

The OP is alright,but like Obelisk said,the OST in general is a mixture of stuff from Aldnoah Zero,Kabaneri and Seraph.

I found the music in battles in particular to be out of sync with the series.The battles weren't exactly something were the characters absolutely have to win or something extremely bad would happen,but for some reason they are playing Kabaneri/Shingeki no Kyojin type of music which only really works exactly because of the seriousness of those two series and Re:Creator is no where as serious or as dark as those two.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Interesting theory cropped up. Sota hasn't met MUP before but she has met him before... Or a least a fictional version of himself.

Theory is Setsuna created MUP and in her story Sota was in it.

This could be why Sota a Creator was able to travel to Celesia's world. As MUP was there.

What did Sota call himself? A narrator. Narrators can also be characters.

Sota became a pseudo-self insert character who gets drawn to MUP's shenanigans even if she doesn't want it as that is how her narrative goes.

Now if this is the case there is still the possibility MUP is a self insert reincarnation of Setsuna.

That's a pretty good hypothesis, I'd say. The power of fan-fiction or even unpublished original fiction is as of yet unexplored in the series.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Is it just me or is Sawano Hiroyuki's really stagnating?The OST of this series is just a complete rehash of his old work.Not only that,in my opinion,it's feels awkward and out of sync with the atmosphere of the series?

His style has not changed much yes but I still find it nice though. Although the grandidose music is a bit hilarious in....magical girl combat lol (KLK doesn't count since KLK is meant to be over the top)

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I find that music composers and artists in Japan don't stray too much from their image. Maybe once in a while, they will release something experimental but most of the time, they do something similar to what they have done before. Sawano, just like Kajiura, basically got typecasted.

Maybe Kajiura's better at hiding it than Sawano,but personally,I have never found Kajiura's stuff to be repetitive. Sawano's stuff on the other hand is something that can easily be spotted.