Superman: Man of Steel (2012)

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not to join the discussion given that I haven't seen either movie, but this was funny:

Amazing, you summed up the problem of the movie without watching it.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by C.A.

Amazing, you summed up the problem of the movie without watching it.

To be fair, my understanding of the situation was that the Avengers were dealing with some warp hole while Superman had to defend against a full-scale invasion. Different circumstances.

[GDB]

I'd say the Avengers had the truer invasion. Zod's crew was what, half a dozen soldiers? MAYBE a dozen? No more than 3 of whom ever actually stepped foot on the planet.

[Shyni]

Yeah, I don't recall seeing a big number of Kryptonians at any given time, so there probably wasn't too many of them with Zod.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by GDB

I'd say the Avengers had the truer invasion. Zod's crew was what, half a dozen soldiers? MAYBE a dozen? No more than 3 of whom ever actually stepped foot on the planet.

One Krypotian can destroy the planet (well, everyone on it). What Zod lacked in quantity he made up for in spades with quality.

[GDB]

Just saying, if you're comparing which is more of an "invasion", hundreds or thousands of Skrulls (with tens of thousands or more still on their way) is more of an "invasion" than 3 human analogues with powers.

[Samari]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not to join the discussion given that I haven't seen either movie, but this was funny:

Ha. That's funny. Alas, Superman was by himself. So there.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by GDB

Just saying, if you're comparing which is more of an "invasion", hundreds or thousands of Skrulls (with tens of thousands or more still on their way) is more of an "invasion" than 3 human analogues with powers.

In terms of effective fighting forces, 1 Kryptonian equals an entire army (if not more). As Stark said in a similar discussion with Loki, "We've got a Hulk.", and the same is true with any Kryptonian (some more than others).

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Samari

Ha. That's funny. Alas, Superman was by himself. So there.

Not really. He did have the military and Professor Hamilton drop a Phantom Zone bomb on the enemy. Not Superheroes, but still more than Hawkeye did.

Originally Posted by james0246

In terms of effective fighting forces, 1 Kryptonian equals an entire army (if not more). As Stark said in a similar discussion with Loki, "We've got a Hulk.", and the same is true with any Kryptonian (some more than others).

When talking terms of conquering, yes. But when one thinks of being "invaded", they generally think of being swarmed by the enemy. Zod was more like a single ninja infiltrating the enemy.

[SoldierOfDarkness]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Not to join the discussion given that I haven't seen either movie, but this was funny:

In all fairness the invasion composed of thousands of aliens that could easily be taken down by a 9mm bullet. That and the avengers had an entire team with various capabilities to work with. Plus the Aliens were using conventional means by just randomly blasting whatever moved.

For Superman, whose power is comparable to Thor and Hulk, and the US military their operation took place in India AND metropolis, both on other sides of the world and they were up against a group whose power is also comparable to both Hulk and Thor. The world engines were literally WMDs to begin with. That and the entire US team involved in the operation was pretty much killed and gave their lives to stop the world engine.

The Avengers had it a lot easier than Superman. Different circumstances for each one.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by GDB

When talking terms of conquering, yes. But when one thinks of being "invaded", they generally think of being swarmed by the enemy. Zod was more like a single ninja infiltrating the enemy.

The term need have nothing to do with the size of the invading forces (though scope is debatable). An encroachment of armed forces is considered an invasion.

[GDB]

They had terraform ships, but otherwise they were unarmed.

[Albafica]

Watched the movie and it was a really good film! I love the DC comics universe and this movie doesn't disappoint me at all. The only problem is that there are too much action.

But well the movie really moves me a lot, especially Clark's flashback. The music of Hans Zimmer was great in these moments.

And i was really amazed by fight scenes, especially Faora-UL VS Superman .

By the way, Faora-Ul was so cool: "You will not win. For every human that you save, we will kill a million more. "

So badass.

[oompa loompa]

People hating on the action; this is the best action I've seen since the Matrix, as in, its that much above par. I really, really liked this movie, specifically because people died, and everything didn't go according to plan. I didn't like that the fight between Zod and Supah-man wasn't in the build up to the story's climax, but the fact that

Spoiler for zod the badass:

forced supah-man to kill him, kind of made up for it, but i would much rather have had that against the backdrop of the world destroyer still working.

They say there are gonna be sequels right? I know a lot of people want to see Darkseid, and he's definitely my no.1 choice as well. However, if the action sequences in this movie, the dark(er) and hectic pace, and just the large amount of action, I think Doomsday would make an equally good villain for the next film. It would be awesome if he wasn't just physically super evolved, but also mentally super evolved (although I don't think thats anywhere in the comics). Either way, super man has some of the most, badass villains in comic books (too bad venom was shit in spiderman, and we never got to see carnage), and if the next movie is in the same vein as this one, I think it'll be great.

All in all good, solid superhero movie. Probably the action movie of the summer. I'm really surprised by how negative the reviews were for it.

[Alchemist007]

Just saw it for the 2nd time. Yep, still badass.

[germanturkey]

i enjoyed this more than the avengers. if nothing else, the enemies had an equal chance of winning. but that's the DC universe for you though.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

i enjoyed this more than the avengers. if nothing else, the enemies had an equal chance of winning. but that's the DC universe for you though.

It's a Super Hero movie. The bad guys aren't going to win in the end.

[Shyni]

Eh, I know at least one super hero movie that sort of had a bad guy victory.

Spoiler for name of movie and ending details:

Remember Watchmen from the same director? Ozymandias won, and he was technically the bad guy, if only because his plan involving directly killing lots of people. Granted, that was due to the source material, and Watchmen is pretty... different.

I'm not sure what point I was trying to make with this now.

Originally Posted by GDB

They had terraform ships, but otherwise they were unarmed.

Who needs weapons when you have super strength and heat vision?

[GDB]

Antagonist does not equal bad guy.

[sunset]

Originally Posted by Shyni

Eh, I know at least one super hero movie that sort of had a bad guy victory.

MoS is a pyrrhic victory.
Sure he won, but a part of the city was decimated and he had to take a life.