2013-10-26, 11:54 | Link #801 | |
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If it goes to the enchanter, yeah. But if it goes to the teammate that activated the proc, then aggro would switch.
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2013-10-26, 11:58 | Link #803 |
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they needed to gain time and distract the enemy.Since she was healing the two of them they were focused only on the healed allies and understimated them since the heal sucked they were probably thinking of killing them fast and be done with it without caring about shiroe and serara
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2013-10-26, 12:02 | Link #804 | |||
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It was probably for moral factor. If they kill Demikas ASAP in the beginning the other brigands might want to avenge their leader + Shiroe and Nyanta might be accused of doubleteaming a single person.When Shiroe provoke Demikas away from other enemies they make sure he is far from Nao's Anchor's Howl AOE. The heals Shiroe asked Serara to do was probably to give illusion that they are desparate, or waiting for reinforcement. Castle of Stone was probably the signal for "finish him" I find it very awesome that the DTP party ex-members understand each others without word, such as the before the battle when Shiroe asked Nyanta if he will fight Demikas 1 on 1 and he replied that the question is a foolish one. Quite a trust. And then the execution of the strategy with minimal word is just brilliant. Akatsuki did what a "ninja" should do best: Acting independent from others. The enemies were quite stupid to group together their healers; an AOE can easily cripple them of healing. When Akatsuki PKed all of them, other enemies were probably shocked and wondered if there are more people that still hiding, and their moral shattered. It seemed that Akatsuki started to doubt herself though, wondering if she can perform better in the party. Quote:
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2013-10-26, 12:08 | Link #805 |
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I'd rather just say that Elder Tales players are dumb as bricks for not realizing an OP spell for what it is in a PvP setting (Enchanter's are rare in the world? Really?). I mean, it's no Smiter's Boon, but I bet Enchanter is not a one-trick pony, so I'm terrified what the rest of the kit can actually do.
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2013-10-26, 12:15 | Link #806 | |
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2013-10-26, 12:19 | Link #807 | |
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2013-10-26, 12:21 | Link #808 | ||
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The reason is, you're not pressing time to hit a HP quota of mere 10~20k within seconds, as raid bosses have millions of hitpoints. Through output of DPS is more important, not a burst damage within 1~2 seconds. Burst damage in raids (which is focused on short-term phases or near the end of rage timers) is a completely different concept. The strategy Shiroe used is almost entirely a PvP tactic, where cap of HP is below 20k, and there are healers present to react and top off the HP. Trust me, I know these things. I've raided hundreds of raid bosses (cleared content weekly) in WoW, and was an active GvG (guild vs guild pvp) officer for GW. Likely back in the day, Shiroe and Nyanta (and perhaps other DTP members) had a reason to practice PvP tactics for various reasons. Quote:
All 10 thorns were activated, and we didn't have Serara finish him off. Changing topics, BTW, censorship issue for the episode: In the novel Akatsuki does not finish off the mage, she holds him hostage for a bit. After Demikaus dies, and Shiroe's party are leaving on the gryphon, Shiroe finishes off the mage by slitting his throat with a knife. I guess that was just too much for NHK.
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2013-10-26, 12:22 | Link #809 | |
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Spoiler for Anyone watch roots?:
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2013-10-26, 12:33 | Link #810 |
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the ones who attacked them that time were people about lvl 83, while this time even if they received a lot of dmg they had least 4-5 healers to heal them before naotsugu managed to kill them off.Maybe there was even a shaman mixed in for all we know.
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2013-10-26, 12:38 | Link #811 | |
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It's like you and your girl/boyfriend meets an old friend of her/his (preferably of the gender that would attract your partner) and you find out that they are more in-sync with each other than s/he is with you On the fight, I think a factor that contributed to Shiroe and team's success may be the Brigandia's over-confidence in their victory, despite the beating Demicus took from Nyanta. In most cases they do have the right to be complacent; more men, most of them with high levels and fighting on home ground. It's this over-confidence that led them to underestimate this tiny team of strangers, allowing them to lead them around by the nose. Had they been a bit more careful, with Demicus refusing to succumb to Nyanta and Shiroe's provocation and ordering instead an all-out attack, it's hard to say whether even the Scheming Glasses would be able to turn the tables on them. We need more ominous men with spectacles here
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2013-10-26, 12:39 | Link #812 |
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I'm guessing all classes have an OP attack or spell that they can use, enchanters seems to be thorn bind hostage. On that note, is the finishing move that assassins have that assassinate skill, since akatsuki seems to always use it when killing something.
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2013-10-26, 12:55 | Link #813 | |
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So when Naotsugu cast Castle of Stone, Anchor Howl was probably still in effect. If it is not, WhyTH the enemies didnt attack a low-maxhp Enchanter, lower-maxhp druid, or even A Swashbuckler that has less-than-half hp left. Surely not because of chivalry, since they were ready to gang up on Nyanta earlier. So Anchor Howl should still be in effect, or else the Brigandia were really stupid to attack invulnerable Guardian.
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2013-10-26, 12:58 | Link #814 | |
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Since it seems there's no translation picking the LN up yet, I'm really curious about any and all novel changes they did, censorwise or not.
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2013-10-26, 13:59 | Link #816 |
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IT seems to be an one hit thing, if they have healers with them and especially shamans, and are lvl 90 instead of 82-83. Furthermore there are warrior class and not only rogue classes. I think a warrior class can at least stand one hit and as said before if they have a healer they don't need to worry about being finished off.
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2013-10-26, 14:03 | Link #817 | |
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Its more like public execution because demiglass is dead after Nyanta's fight. In the novel Serara KS didn't happen. What do you mean? Godou is actually pretty merciful that he didn't kill outright his opponent.
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2013-10-26, 14:16 | Link #819 |
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I meant that they are both kinda pseudo-pacifists, and say they dont want trouble but can be pretty hardcore when they make up their minds. (But i guess you can say that about most MCs) Also rewatching this i'm kinda sad Akatsuki doesnt have many cute moments, but serara makes up for it
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