2007-04-03, 17:10 | Link #262 | |
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2007-04-03, 17:29 | Link #263 |
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"I don't know about that. Kyon traveled back in the past before Haruhi drew that symbol. Doesn't that mean that the "data explosion" etc. occurred before she drew the symbol, and therefore, Haruhi had her powers before then?"
well, if it's a 'pre-determined event', that means his traveling in the past may either not have actually been caused by the attachment of the spirit(he just helped her do it; the time travelers made him, not haruhi). time really is not linear in haruhi, so until tanigawa tells us how it actually all worked, we won't know. mikuru et al are organizing events in the past so that their future can exist. when they say 'pre-determined event', they mean that the events that occur do not cause a time paradox because they all were determined beforehand somehow, i.e. when the reality was created. haruhi's powers may transcend time, since she has the power to create new realities(or maybe she only has the power to change the present and morph the current reality, i don't know). i'd explain more but i have to go to school now =/ i guess the best way to put it is, maybe haruhi created the time block by affecting the recent past after she acquired her powers, and the data explosion either didnt cause the time block or she caused it to occur in the past. an example would be as koizumi suggested, after her initial acquistion of her powers with kyon's help, she created a new world that was more interesting for herself(but still believable, to her) which began before the point in time kyon traveled back to(although i find that version unlikely). but even if my theory isn't completely right i'm pretty sure that the 'spirits' have some kind of connection to haruhi and her powers, even if they aren't the true source of it. if i wanted to go out on a limb i'd say that tanigawa is trying to make it so that the god/goddess of tanabata is actually one of those spirits and attached itself to haruhi =p wild, i guess, but the theory's fun to think about. Last edited by wtflux; 2007-04-03 at 18:15. |
2007-04-03, 20:23 | Link #265 | |
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2007-04-04, 09:31 | Link #268 | ||
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Okay, fair enough. So let's reverse my theory; Haruhi isn't unique, as is proven by the existence of Sasaki. Which would mean that in this world, there is more than one "source of power", and Haruhi and Sasaki are just two of them. However, Kyon is the "focus lens" that allows that power to manifest itself in this world, by altering reality.
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2007-04-04, 12:07 | Link #269 | |
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The first book sets up certain expectations of what's to come that have so far not been followed through in any significant way. It's all been setup with very little progress in the plot. I know next to nothing about how the series came to be written or how it's published, so this is all speculation, but I get the feeling that Tanigawa didn't have any expectation of this turning into a popular series and that he wrote the first book as if it was a stand-alone novel. In other words I think he's winging it and it's starting to show (actually it started to show a few volumes back). None of which is to say I'm not enjoying the series because I find it great fun. But I would enjoy it more if the overarching plot started moving forward instead of having hints about it dropped here and there without any actual progress. |
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2007-04-04, 17:52 | Link #271 |
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well, the progress is virtually 0 as of now(except for the tidbit of prologue that has been translated, and what i have translated and posted myself(see earlier posts, i think there are one or two excerpts)). but i imagine people are just taking their time reading the book and translation will pick up after they're done.
i'd have translated a bunch myself but i'm busy with college atm =/ which is kind of annoying, because i think translating haruhi is much better learning/practice than actually doing the homework(japanese is relatively easy for me) in addition to being more interesting. a rough estimate? i'm not sure how fast the other translators are, but i'd say it could easily be completed by july if they're around my level(they're probably better). that would give us 3 months i think? probably wouldn't take that long, since it's summer. i'll be working on it a lot after my classes end(which is soon), at least =p Last edited by wtflux; 2007-04-04 at 18:07. |
2007-04-04, 18:50 | Link #273 |
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that was a maximum estimate, so it was generous, if i were to give a real estimate i'd probably choose late may-mid june. but if most translators have classes like me, right now's a busy time of the year, with finals/major projects coming up and such.
holycow/kinny or someone else who's been on the project for awhile would probably have a better idea. |
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If anybody wants to head over and offer some help, there's a thread on the Baka-Tsuki forum currently running about how many translators they've got (just the two above, so far), and the instructions for registering as a translator is on the main project page, toward the bottom, right above the listing of the editors. Ganbatte!
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2007-04-04, 20:10 | Link #275 | |
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"The structure is as follows: Prologue: 95 pages Chapter 1: 53 pages Chapter 2: "Alpha 1" - 3.25 pages "Beta 1" - 5.5 pages "Beta 2" - 5 pages "Alpha 2" - 3.5 pages "Beta 3" - 2 pages "Alpha 3" - 1 page "Alpha 4" - 0.5 pages "Beta 4" - 40 pages Chapter 3: "Alpha 5" - 15.5 pages "Beta 5" - 15 pages "Alpha 6" - 22 pages "Beta 6" - 21 pages " (from that very link u posted) wats with the alpha and beta? |
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2007-04-04, 20:53 | Link #277 |
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"wats with the alpha and beta?"
there are two different endings, an alpha and a beta ending, and he has different alpha and beta chapters to lead up to each one. i'm not sure exactly how it works, but my guesses are: 1. they both actually happen but he chooses not to write them together for some reason, and vol10 will join them or they will, combined, make up the backstory for vol10 2. it's one of those choose-your-own-ending things, and both are considered 'real endings', which could mean multiple things for vol10 3. it's a 'choose-your-own-ending,' but only one is the real ending, which he will continue in vol 10 personally, im hoping for either 1 or 3(preferably 1). open-ended endings(not related to this) and 'choose-your-own-ending' things are definitely not my ending types of choice. |
2007-04-04, 21:01 | Link #278 | |
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so ultimately the translated vol 1-8 is picking and chosing alpha or beta? wow this can get confuzling so if he choses 1 , wat will happen to the other variation of the chapter? |
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2007-04-04, 21:41 | Link #280 |
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maybe they're evil/alternate versions. for we know that SB dude isnt on kyon's side so maybe those 3 would somehow be allied
just by appearance, my best guess would be alien-pink sweather brown/yellow shirt time traveler, dark haired girl suzmiya equivalent |
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