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2009-08-31, 20:15 | Link #85 |
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One key element to Senjougahara's character: She's impeccably calm, cool, and collected. It's not just anybody that could look at a person she loves in a bloody horrific mess and not even bat an eye-lash. She's done this at least twice now with Araragi, so I think we can say that this is a key aspect to her character.
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2009-08-31, 22:00 | Link #90 |
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Given what we've seen in the latest episode, it's interesting that Senjougahara before the crab was, in fact, very different from Senjougahara after the crab. This is something that Hanekawa had also alluded to in the first episode.
After all, if Senjougahara had been as coldly aloof in middle school as she was in high school, she wouldn't have been as popular. Middle-school Senjougahara appeared more cheerful, more affirmative, more caring for others. She even took the initiative to meet other people she found interesting, to check out fellow rivals in athletics and sports. If you think about it, every character who encountered an oddity has been permanently scarred in one way or another. Araragi remains a nascent vampire; Hanekawa apparently suffers from inadvertent promiscuity; Hachikuji still floats among mortals; Kanbaru's left arm stays horribly disfigured. So, in Senjougahara's case, some parts of her original personality never returned. It's just as Oshino had warned: Things won't go back to normal even though she got her weight/memories back. She's still missing her emotions, something she's now struggling, bit by bit, to recover. I'm tempted to think of all these oddities, and their effects, as allusions to adolescence and growing up. Strip them away, and what we get is in fact a straightforward otaku-based story that involves themes familiar to most teenagers. The way we were before we became adults, the sometimes painful angst we went through, and the end result of that growing up process — that has all been expressed here through clever wordplay. And some things, like annoying acne scars, will never go away. They just become part of the collection of things that give us "character". It's just that, for the new Senjougahara, it comes with added spice (and spite). |
2009-08-31, 22:57 | Link #91 | |
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2009-09-01, 00:14 | Link #92 | |
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2009-09-01, 03:39 | Link #93 |
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The World's Health Organization's definition of dissocial personality disorder/sociopathy:
My goodness... Senjougahara fits almost all of the above descriptions to a T. My condolences, Ararararagi-kun. Interesting observation. That further supports my views about why the splicing of real-life photography into the animation has been effectively done. |
2009-09-01, 03:43 | Link #94 |
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Half of the character types in anime fit half the things on that list.
We've been through this over on the Haruhi subforum. That was my point earlier. It's stupid to use that list to insult characters like that, and goes nowhere. |
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Anyway, in the case of Hitagi, I'm really not seeing some of these to begin with. Looking at this WHO list... 1. Hitagi cares about Araragi. She also showed caring for Kanbaru. Hitagi has empathy... she's just not the sort of person to express it profusely. 2. I don't see much evidence of Hitagi being a real irresponsible rebel. Actually, it's pretty responsible how she keeps coming to Araragi's aid. 3. Well... Hitagi seems to be doing Ok so far in maintaining her relationship with Araragi. 4 and 7 I'll say are valid. But 2 out of 7 is nowhere near enough to say "Yeah, that classification fits."
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If anything I'd say she's lost the knack for expressing emotions, at least in socially acceptable ways. Or possibly even enjoys her unconventional way of interacting with the world. Quote:
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2009-09-01, 09:01 | Link #97 | |
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Having teen-aged characters makes it possible to help those who are youngest and apparently easiest to influence. This story could well be applied to adults even in their late 20's or more... with few adjustments. The thing is the reach and effect would be less. Adults tend to think too much of themselves and we are more jaded once we pass 25. Less influenced even by positive stories. It is as if we feel the author is being totally pretentious when in truth we are the ones who are being pretentious. I give this author a good rate for his ability to really craft a story that is fantastical but realistic and applicable at the same time. You just have to think about it some. Which oddly is the reason alot of people I see on bb's dropped Bakemonogatari. They just don't "get it" I can't fault them. They are still at their young, want to see chicks with guns fight as well as ninja or shinigami with overly ridiculous and unnecessarily convoluted story plot lines, pulp fiction entertainment stage. I wonder why shows like Welcome to the NHK never got much top billing. |
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2009-09-01, 11:41 | Link #98 |
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rocket beat me to it.... I don't think its that she's lost the emotions themselves, but that she lost the *tools* and *techniques* of expressing them properly. There's also the nature of Hitagi+Araragi which isn't really *that* unusual in the real world: sparring love duel between two equally powerful people.
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2009-09-01, 11:52 | Link #99 |
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Hitagi is simply reserved/subtle (with the exception of bold acts/statements every now and then) in how she expresses her feelings. You could even call it classy, perhaps. Overall, I like it. Quite ironically, she's like the anti-tsundere. Her sweet moments are transparent but calm (she doesn't hide her feelings; she just doesn't exclaim them loudly or bashfully/shyly). Her harsh moments are like stoic ice compared to the raging fire of a tsundere.
You know what she's like? She's almost like a female bishonen - like Byakuya (Bleach) or Sesshomaru (InuYasha) made female.
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