To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Kyouka]

i would like to see old accelerator vs angelerator

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by kyouka

i would like to see old accelerator vs angelerator

Angel!Accelerator would win.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by yukirosuzuka

Accel's original power was weakened by half when he got shot, and has a time limit. However, that led to him working ways around that and racking up experience in fighting, which led to him actually getting a lot stronger than he was before (currently at angel-class in white-wings mode).

He can be sniped if he doesn't turn on his battery, but keep in mind that even without his powers he is one of the smartest people in AC and is very perceptive and aware of his surroundings.

In all the power rankings, his normal form now with the Network switch is ranked higher than his pre-brain damage state.

He seems to have gained the ability to use his powers at range but doesn't his time limit make up for this gain?

[I_am_Kami]

Isn't it kinda odd that Kinuhata just knew Accelerator casually?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Kenju of the Right

Reading Vol 17

Holy fuck, Touma's lost it. If you try to act like a hero and do it wrong, Touma WILL fuck you up

This is the first and only incident we have of Touma snapping and deviating away from the normal, at this point it's not about protecting 500 passengers, it's about pure vengeance.

[shmaster]

A revised list, added in people in the peripheral but still helpful.

The Church of Kamijou

The Deity: Kamijou Touma
The Ruling Angel: FUZE=Kazakiri
Touma's Right Seat: The Delta Force+Kumokawa Seria+Fukiyose Seiri

Supreme Pontiff: Index Librorum Prohibitorum
High Priestess: Kanzaki Kaori
Cardinals: Misaka Mikoto, Tsukuyomi Komoe

Arch Bishops: Orsola Aquinas, Levinia Bardway
Priests and Priestesses: Stiyl, The New Light, Agnese and co., Itsuwa and the Amakusa
The believers: Last Order, Sisters, Himegami Aisa, Yamisaka Ouma, Etzali, Oyafune Monaka

Sponsors or Affiliates: Heaven Canceler, Oriana Thompson, Aqua of the Back, Villian, Hamazura

Zealots: Accelerator, Fiamma of the Right

[Karna]

Originally Posted by shmaster

A revised list, added in people in the peripheral but still helpful.

The Church of Kamijou

The Deity: Kamijou Touma
The Ruling Angel: FUZE=Kazakiri
Touma's Right Seat: The Delta Force+Kumokawa Seria+Fukiyose Seiri

Supreme Pontiff: Index Librorum Prohibitorum
High Priestess: Kanzaki Kaori
Cardinals: Misaka Mikoto, Tsukuyomi Komoe

Arch Bishops: Orsola Aquinas, Levinia Bardway
Priests and Priestesses: Stiyl, The New Light, Agnese and co., Itsuwa and the Amakusa
The believers: Last Order, Sisters, Himegami Aisa, Yamisaka Ouma, Etzali, Oyafune Monaka

Sponsors or Affiliates: Heaven Canceler, Oriana Thompson, Aqua of the Back, Villian, Hamazura

Zealots: Accelerator, Fiamma of the Right

IMO, Kumokawa Seria shouldn't be part of the list. She should be replaced with 10,032 or something.

[Phibrizzo]

Bardway is to good to follow such a religion.

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

IMO, Kumokawa Seria shouldn't be part of the list. She should be replaced with 10,032 or something.

I think Kumokawa deserve some recognition in that she is among the people who are friends with Touma before his memory loss, and even fell for him before everyone else.
And she remains the person who knows the most about Touma despite she had little interaction with him after his memory loss.

10032 might be more obsessed with Touma, but Kumokawa most certainly knows more about him.

[Karna]

Originally Posted by shmaster

I think Kumokawa deserve some recognition in that she is among the people who are friends with Touma before his memory loss, and even fell for him before everyone else.
And she remains the person who knows the most about Touma despite she had little interaction with him after his memory loss.

10032 might be more obsessed with Touma, but Kumokawa most certainly knows more about him.

Wait, where was it stated that they were past friends and that she fell for him?

edit - Just read her wiki profile. It seems that she actually may have had a past crush on the old Touma and that the love letter she sent him may have been legit. I didn't know that.

If that is the case, I wonder if she found out that Touma lost his memories just because she knew the past Touma really well and could tell he was different, and not just because she was snooping around looking up info.

[NightGale]

“From the bottom of my heart, I believe that you should have an early death.”
From Knight Leader to Laura Stuart...
Why can´t i help but laugh and agree when i see lines like this?

[Flere821]

Originally Posted by shmaster

I think Kumokawa deserve some recognition in that she is among the people who are friends with Touma before his memory loss, and even fell for him before everyone else.
And she remains the person who knows the most about Touma despite she had little interaction with him after his memory loss.

10032 might be more obsessed with Touma, but Kumokawa most certainly knows more about him.

Eh, Kumokawa never fell for Touma. She was like a aloof sempai to him in terms of school relationships from what SS2 suggested. She is interested in his right hand though, and knows it's not a esper ability, even taking gemstones into account.

Not that stops her from messing around with him by delibrating starting rumours in the love letter SS.

[Karna]

Originally Posted by Flere821

Eh, Kumokawa never fell for Touma. She was like a aloof sempai to him in terms of school relationships from what SS2 suggested. She is interested in his right hand though, and knows it's not a esper ability, even taking gemstones into account.

Not that stops her from messing around with him by delibrating starting rumours in the love letter SS.

Well acccording to the wiki....

Originally Posted by wiki

At the end of the story not only Kumokawa catches the spy, but it is also slightly hinted that she knew Touma from before his memory loss, that she is aware of Touma's memory loss and that the love letter that she wrote might not be a fake one but an actual legit letter on which she poured all of her feelings for the old Touma.

Then again, I don't know how strong of a hint was given...

[Flere821]

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

Well acccording to the wiki....

Then again, I don't know how strong of a hint was given...

Anyone can edit the wiki though... not to mention I've actually READ the love letter SS, and I sure as hell didn't see anything even hinting Kumokawa's in love with Touma...

Though there IS the suggestion she knew about Touma's memory loss.

[Karna]

Originally Posted by Flere821

Anyone can edit the wiki though... not to mention I've actually READ the love letter SS, and I sure as hell didn't see anything even hinting Kumokawa's in love with Touma...

Though there IS the suggestion she knew about Touma's memory loss.

Ah, I see. Someone added some incorrect info then I guess.

[shmaster]

Touma: "駄目だ,　この難攻不落の先輩をどうやって攻略すれば良いのやら..."
Kumokawa: "何が難攻不落か。とっくに無血開城しているけど"
Kumokawa: "ただまぁ, 君の知らない所で色々あったんじゃないか?　そう, 君の記憶にない所で"

The very line that revealed their relationship before Touma's memory loss.

[outerelf]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Touma: "駄目だ,　この難攻不落の先輩をどうやって攻略すれば良いのやら..."
Kumokawa: "何が難攻不落か。とっくに無血開城しているけど"
Kumokawa: "ただまぁ, 君の知らない所で色々あったんじゃないか?　そう, 君の記憶にない所で"

The very line that revealed their relationship before Touma's memory loss.

... erm, I can't read moonrunes. Really. I can't.

But whether or not Kumokawa does or doesn't love Touma, for his Church she doesn't get high up there because he's not that aware of her. Thus no promotion.

[kuroishinigami]

Touma : "It's hopeless, how should I capture this impregnable senpai..."
Kumokawa : "What do you mean by impregnable. (I) already have bloodlessly yield a long time ago though"
Kumokawa : "But, well, there's a lot going on at the place you don't know about isn't it? That's right, at the place where you don't have memory of"

Well, my English is not that good, but that's the basic translation of it.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Touma : "It's hopeless, how should I capture this impregnable senpai..."
Kumokawa : "What do you mean by impregnable. (I) already have bloodlessly yield a long time ago though"
Kumokawa : "But, well, there's a lot going on at the place you don't know about isn't it? That's right, at the place where you don't have memory of"

Well, my English is not that good, but that's the basic translation of it.

...Mah, it does sound like it's heading in that direction, but more likely it's just friendly teasing between the two of them... Heck, Touma started it!

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

Isn't it kinda odd that Kinuhata just knew Accelerator casually?

........No?

Originally Posted by shmaster

Touma: "駄目だ,　この難攻不落の先輩をどうやって攻略すれば良いのやら..."
Kumokawa: "何が難攻不落か。とっくに無血開城しているけど"
Kumokawa: "ただまぁ, 君の知らない所で色々あったんじゃないか?　そう, 君の記憶にない所で"

The very line that revealed their relationship before Touma's memory loss.

Ahhh Kamijyo...back when you were still normal....relatively...

hell bloodless capitulation at the place you have no memory of....heck is he still virgin...Lessar may be beaten...

“From the bottom of my heart, I believe that you should have an early death.”
From Knight Leader to Laura Stuart...
Why can´t i help but laugh and agree when i see lines like this?

Thus reinforcing why only Laura can lead a war against Crowley...