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Old 2018-04-19, 04:55   Link #13361
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It seems Nene lost her right arm in the battle with Nasseem. I wonder if we can heal her
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Old 2018-04-19, 07:59   Link #13362
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Summary updated, the next update should finish the chapter.

So basically Excessive Awakening is when Desperados become true demons. I think we have a pretty good idea what Ikki and Stella will look like when they achieve this transformation.
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Old 2018-04-19, 08:58   Link #13363
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Summary updated, the next update should finish the chapter.

So basically Excessive Awakening is when Desperados become true demons. I think we have a pretty good idea what Ikki and Stella will look like when they achieve this transformation.
Thanks for the summary AP24!

So I will give credit to HOLLOW on this one, he was spot on with the ''becoming a demon'' stuff, but this doesn't aply to Ikki only. So when you go through Brute Soul, you break the chains of fate, and is out of simple human territory. It's like opening a door and standing there without crossing it. When you go through Excessive Awakening, you cross that door and step in demon territory. I think this is kinda like Naruto using Kurama's chakra or Ichigo using his hollow powers: when you use it, you gain the power up, but you either control it, or you go berserk and lose control. I say this because Naseem seems to know how to control this, at least to some extent.

And it's interesting but it looks like not even Nene knew about this, and in this form, Naseem is as strong as the 3 strongest blazers in the world? I say at least those 3 probably know about Excessive Awakening, but I think that's it, maybe Edelweiss and Or-Gaule as well, but if being a Desperado is something only some people know, Excessive Awakening is something even less people know about, but that's really cool!!

And seeing as how Nene reached Excessive Awakening, I'm really looking forward to a fight where Ikki is so cornered that his device breaks as well and his sheer emotions or whatever just take control and he reaches this level as well. Now I wanna see at least Ikki, Stella and Edelweiss in Excessive Awakening form.
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Old 2018-04-19, 11:48   Link #13364
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I just read it.

And yeah, the info is interesting to finally know. I wonder how many people know about Excessive Awakening, if any. But anyway, I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the fight. This should be good.

But yeah, HOLLOW08 was kind of right, but he thought only Ikki would become a demon which is wrong. This is something all Desperados can do, after all. Though it does seem like the Device has to break first and I wonder how it'll repair if it can.

This does mean, though, that a Blazer's soul changes into that of a demon when he/she undergoes Brute Soul. It's just that they can't fully utilize that power unless they become demons themselves. But this is scary. And is the Device breaking the only way to do Excessive Awakening?
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:17   Link #13365
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Excessive Awakening had only been a rumor and probably only those who had achieved it actually knew it to be true. But after this battle, those who had heard about the rumor will know now that it's true. Naseem was able to achieve Escessive Awakening on his own will, so Device being broken is probably not necessary but helps a Desperado achieve it. I think Naseem in demon form is as strong as the 3 most powerful Desperados in human form.
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Old 2018-04-19, 12:30   Link #13366
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I don't think the Device has to break, but your device is kind of your human part still. Maybe you just need to discard your device momentarily, to let go of your human part. Naseem considers himself to not be human, to be a monster, so maybe that's why he doesn't need to break his device
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Old 2018-04-19, 17:12   Link #13367
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@AP24: The summary itself states that Naseem in his demon form is on par with Arthur Bright, Abraham Carter and the "Tyrant", so unless that was your opinion that you just put there on your own, the novel already says he's on par with the Top 3 most powerful Desperado in the world. I wonder if those three also know how to do Excessive Awakening, though.

It would suck if the Device can't be repaired. But I want confirmation on whether or not the Device really has to break.

What would Stella be? A demonic dragon? And what about Ikki? Asura?
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Old 2018-04-19, 18:01   Link #13368
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@AP24: The summary itself states that Naseem in his demon form is on par with Arthur Bright, Abraham Carter and the "Tyrant", so unless that was your opinion that you just put there on your own, the novel already says he's on par with the Top 3 most powerful Desperado in the world. I wonder if those three also know how to do Excessive Awakening, though.

It would suck if the Device can't be repaired. But I want confirmation on whether or not the Device really has to break.

What would Stella be? A demonic dragon? And what about Ikki? Asura?
Every Device can recover, it's not something permanent. Remember that Ikki broke Tohka's Narukami and even Intetsu broke during the fight with Edelweiss, and had it's hilt melted during the fight against Stella. But I don't think the device NEEDS to break, it's just that it looks like the Blazer needs to let go of his human part to become a demon.

Now, about Ikki and Stella, I feel like Stella could get some dragon horns, wings and tail, and maybe some dragon scales over her skin. As for Ikki, his body could be all black, give him some horns as well and maybe his eyes could be blue, like the light from Ittou Shura.
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Old 2018-04-19, 18:46   Link #13369
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Those descriptions of Ikki and Stella's respective demon forms seem good. Either way, I'm thinking Stella's would have a dragon motif while Ikki's would have an Asura motif. Though I'm not sure if I can tell what an Asura motif would look like.
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Old 2018-04-19, 19:29   Link #13370
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Those descriptions of Ikki and Stella's respective demon forms seem good. Either way, I'm thinking Stella's would have a dragon motif while Ikki's would have an Asura motif. Though I'm not sure if I can tell what an Asura motif would look like.
Yeah,I'm having that same problem,no idea about Ashuras and such
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Old 2018-04-19, 19:54   Link #13371
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Old 2018-04-19, 20:14   Link #13372
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Is that hair above the eyes? Maybe in Ikki's case that could be his mana being all fire-like, and he could grow some more arms or something then.
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Old 2018-04-19, 21:19   Link #13373
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@AP24: The summary itself states that Naseem in his demon form is on par with Arthur Bright, Abraham Carter and the "Tyrant", so unless that was your opinion that you just put there on your own, the novel already says he's on par with the Top 3 most powerful Desperado in the world. I wonder if those three also know how to do Excessive Awakening, though.
What I meant was that since Nene has never seen Excessive Awakening before, she would only know the strength of the 3 strongest Desperados in their human form but not their strength in demon form if they have it. So when Nene thinks that Naseem in demon form is on par with the 3 strongest Desperados, she uses their strength in human form as comparison. The 3 strongest Desperados in demon form should be much stronger than Naseem in demon form.
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Old 2018-04-19, 21:26   Link #13374
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So how do you think Edelweiss compares to Nene and Naseem in their Excessive Awakening forms and i wonder if Ikki and Stella reach Excessive Awakening state if they could use Ittou Shura/Rasetsu and Dragon Spirit in those forms
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Old 2018-04-20, 07:41   Link #13375
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Isn't that kind of impossible or contradictory? How do you use Excessive Awakening again when you're already using it? Excessive Awakening on top of Excessive Awakening? (I ask because you said, "i wonder if Ikki and Stella reach Excessive Awakening state if they could use Ittou Shura/Rasetsu and Dragon Spirit in those forms" -- it sounds like you're saying they'd use Ittou Shura/Ratsu or Dragon Spirit in Excessive Awakening to do Excessive Awakening, but that'd be impossible).

@AP24: Yeah, I get that. And yeah, those three would be even more powerful than Naseem in their own respective demon forms. If they do have them already, I want to see them in those forms.
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Old 2018-04-20, 07:58   Link #13376
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I'd think that no matter how much their stamina, mana control, mana capacity, calorie consumption control etc develops using Ittou Rasetsu or Dragon Spirit at the same time as Excessive Awakening (if it's even possible to use both) would lead them on a one way trip to Kiriko or Shizuku's clinic afterwards.

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Old 2018-04-20, 09:04   Link #13377
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Isn't that kind of impossible or contradictory? How do you use Excessive Awakening again when you're already using it? Excessive Awakening on top of Excessive Awakening? (I ask because you said, "i wonder if Ikki and Stella reach Excessive Awakening state if they could use Ittou Shura/Rasetsu and Dragon Spirit in those forms" -- it sounds like you're saying they'd use Ittou Shura/Ratsu or Dragon Spirit in Excessive Awakening to do Excessive Awakening, but that'd be impossible).
I think he was asking if Itto Shura and Dragon Spirit can be used in Excessive Awakening form.

If Nene and Naseem in demon form are as strong as the 3 strongest Desperados, then they most likely are stronger than Edelweiss in normal form.
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Old 2018-04-20, 11:43   Link #13378
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Yeah, if that's what he's asking, then that's okay. I'm curious about that too. For Dragon Spirit, we'd better hope Stella does Excessive Awakening without breaking her Device since she needs to fuse with it for that technique.

You're right about Nene and Naseem in their demon forms. But man, this makes me want to see Edelweiss' and those three strongest Desperados' demon forms, too.
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Old 2018-04-21, 05:01   Link #13379
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Finally finished summarizing the chapter. The next chapter will cover the flashback and the rest of the fight.

The last part of the chapter makes me feel sad for Nene.
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Old 2018-04-21, 05:09   Link #13380
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Finally finished summarizing the chapter. The next chapter will cover the flashback and the rest of the fight.

The last part of the chapter makes me feel sad for Nene.
Ohhh..so she really lost interest on getting the top of league because of the retirement....

On the other hand, reading how becoming excessive awakening make you a going nut, makes me wonder whether Ikki should actually go there, since his strenght lies on observation and strategy and swordship, if he ever goes exccesive awakening, he would be swordless, and probably not really clever (they looks all nut...)
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