2014-05-20, 11:38 | Link #33801 |
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Also doubt we're going to get an war or even armed conflict between China and Vietnam over the sea dispute. China can just bring economic pressure on Vietnam if China wants some ego, which it is somewhat currently doing by taking back its citizens and investors.
Besides, I thought the Vietnam government officials actively prevented a mass anti-Chinese demonstration on Sunday? Is that a sign of them trying to back down and placate China, or rather because they are in general averse towards any public gatherings? |
2014-05-20, 11:47 | Link #33802 |
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Earlier they allowed some protests, supposedly peaceful, but then it went out of hand and turned into full-on rioting. Of late and feeling they're in the same boat, with Putin set to visit China around this month, I'm sure Vietnam will be one of several on the agenda, and it could affect future military equipment acquisitions from Russia.
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2014-05-20, 11:50 | Link #33803 | |
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In fact an economical sanction may even benefit Vietnam as they can now have a reason to crackdown cheap Chinese goods and service without negative response from other nations Based on what i see, it seems the Vietnam government actually was trying to keep the public on their side rather than any sign of back down toward China. As that whole incident with looting foreign company did provide negative view on general public, means keep control over demonstration right now do provide positive public opinion
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2014-05-20, 17:23 | Link #33804 |
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To put it simply, protest and rioting under the eyes of Vietnamese government is just one hair away. Before this, protest to China is not illegal, but rarely to be broadcasted on the state-controlled media. However, this time they do, which is a stepping stone about our willingness.
Plus, public opinion is also an important matter. That is why we still haven't sent any warship, despite that two or three fishermen have been beaten by Chinese officials this week, while their tools were confiscated. Even when they were fishing on their tradition area, meaning hundred of years. You guys just don't know how poor fishermen are in Vietnam. Beside, stealing from anyone is criminal activity and must be punished. If not, everything would had got worse. |
2014-05-21, 02:27 | Link #33805 |
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Book explains why the Iranian mastermind of the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing in Beruit is
currently living in the U.S.: "In a new book out today titled “The Good Spy: The Life and Death of Robert Ames,” Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer Kai Bird tells the story of Ames, a CIA officer who rose to CIA station chief in Lebanon, and was the CIA’s chief analyst in the Middle East. Ames was killed during the April 1983 suicide bombing attack on the U.S. Embassy in Beruit, an attack in which 63 people were killed, including 17 Americans. Among other revelations in the book, one making waves is particularly startling: the Iranian mastermind of the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing in Beruit, along with other attacks that killed hundreds of Americans like Ames, defected to the U.S. in 2007 and provided intelligence to the CIA. Asgari was subsequently granted political asylum and has remained in the U.S., likely under CIA protection, ever since." See: http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2014/05...ng-in-the-u-s/ |
2014-05-21, 13:42 | Link #33810 |
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EBay customers must reset passwords after major hack
No one safe these days. Cop, rabbi, scoutmaster among arrests in child porn bust "They are people children are supposed to trust: A New York Police Department officer, a Fire Department of New York paramedic, a rabbi and a scoutmaster were among more than 70 people arrested in a major child porn bust, a U.S. law enforcement official said Wednesday."
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2014-05-22, 01:03 | Link #33814 | |
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peace or justice? if you have t choose one, which?
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2014-05-22, 05:45 | Link #33817 |
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They love their neighbour. It doesn;t mean they have to love their neighbour's neighbour. The Bible's pretty clear that love isn't universal and that some people you just have to stone to death or decapitate.
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2014-05-22, 06:14 | Link #33818 | |
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The famous "Good Samaritan" story is about 2 strangers. Their neighbor's neighbor is still their neighbor, especially when they are acquainted with each other, as the people mentioned in the article seem to be. Also, the main command to kill in the Bible is very specifically given to the ancient Israelites who were given a promised land to occupy and make holy so that they may live separately as God's chosen people. No one living in the post-Biblical times can claim that prerogative on the basis of the Bible. |
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2014-05-22, 07:19 | Link #33819 | |
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Tbh, I feel this line from kingdom of heaven best sum up how I feel about the subject:
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2014-05-22, 08:02 | Link #33820 | |
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In retrospect, it was probably inevitable. The Army is, ironically, the only "political" institution that still functions in Thailand, after six months of protests.
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