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View Poll Results: What type of softsubs would you like to download? | |||
Matroska (MKV) with SRT subs | 20 | 18.87% | |
Matroska (MKV) with SSA subs (colors and fonts, but heavier on CPU) | 61 | 57.55% | |
Ogg Media (OGM) with SRT subs | 21 | 19.81% | |
Apple QuickTime (MOV) with Flash subs | 4 | 3.77% | |
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2004-10-20, 02:44 | Link #41 | |
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Thank you, BTW, for answering, and not just making random accusations and actually contributing to a discussion, even if it is . I'm not so easily embarassed as to let mere ignorance stand in the way of my education. |
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2004-10-20, 02:52 | Link #42 | |
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If you're watching PAL, yes they'll have to do something to bring it down to 25 fps |
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2004-10-20, 09:33 | Link #43 | |
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2. Most TV rips have constant bitrates (NTSC or PAL) and if they dont a GOOD encoder would make the encode look _not_ jerky. 3. Karaoke, imo, should be part of the fansubbing. i like shitty karaoke as much as i like shitty encodes. (I dont like em at all =P). And having karaoke is the releases is like getting a free 2nd pizza when you only ordered one. its a bonus =P 4. What (besides letting people customize (steal) your scripts) advantages do softsubs have? And what if the raw you used is like (almost) perfect quality but its 350 MB for 20-25 mins (yes, i saw those kinda raws) would you re-encode it to 175 MB? or leave it at this huge size? while you can make it look (note: i said LOOK, as in for human eyes) more or less the same when encoding to 175 MB with decent filters and settings =P I still prefer MPEG4/AVI over any other containers =p |
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2004-10-20, 12:15 | Link #45 | |||
What? I am washed up!
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LOTs of Framerates run in Variable Bitrates. LOTS. But, NTSC is 29.97fps. How do they do this? 3:2 pull down - go and read up on it. Anime now is commonly a mix of 30fps interlaced and 24fps with 3:2 pulldown applied to it. And there's NO simple way with common encoding tools (AVISynth/VirtualDub) to Decimate 30fps segments, unless I'm very mistaken, and I've missed some miracle tool. Decimatation is the act of removing frames - you can pick and choose which ones to remove, and that's about it. And running the episode at 30fps isn't any good either - then the 24fps segments will be jerky, heh. Karaoke owns. Quote:
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2004-11-05, 17:27 | Link #47 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Else check the number of downloads here http://packs.matroska.org ChristianHJW matroska project admin http://www.matroska.org |
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2004-11-07, 20:17 | Link #48 |
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i'd just prefer something that works natively with winamp, and neither of the three does (yes, i know winamp is weak as a video player, but i still like it)
and i still prefer hardsubs as softsubs tend to mess up on my computer, like there are sometimes characters missing, spaces missing, etc (likely to change in the future) with that said, ogm crashes more often than mkv, so i prefer mkv |
2004-11-07, 20:31 | Link #49 | |
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I have actually tried running the light pack, but it seems to be missing something. WMP10 still wouldn't recognize MKV as a valid media format. So, I uninstall that, clean up the mess, reboot, and try again with the full pack. This time WMP10 recognized it as media, but crashed when trying to play it. Furthermore, it crashed when trying to play any media file, even WAVs. Once again, unistall, clean up, reboot. Now I can play everything else just fine, but I'm back to square one with MKVs. All this was done several weeks ago. As you so elegantly pointed out, I shouldn't post anything if I don't know what I'm talking about, so I didn't. From what I can see, support for WMP10 isn't in place. As much as I appreciate ADTRW's efforts, I'm going to have to wait for another group to get the eps out. |
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2004-11-08, 00:50 | Link #50 |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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I rather have ogm, as mkv can be too hard to demux (something about only being able to demux certain sub files with VirtualDubMod). As long as it's something I can easily mess around with, it's fine by me if you don't want to do .avis -- I'll just make them for myself when I get it home.
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2004-11-08, 01:26 | Link #52 |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Just for the record, NTSC, used in North America and Japan is 29.97 FPS. PAL, used in Europe, is 24 FPS.
Yes, some animation is shot "on the twos" so you could conceivably save space with variable framerate encoding, but it seems like a lot of work with potential for errors. I'm not sold on Matriska, or whatever it's called, yet. I do work with AMVs and whatnot so I can appreciate the utility of turning off subs ,but if I really want to turn off subs, I can get raws. The only real setting where I can see it being useful is if you had multiple sub files -- multiple languages, or subs and then signs and translators notes on a seperate file, for example -- and even then the additional software and hassle seems to make a pretty good case for plain ol' AVI. I love being an early adopter as much as the next guy, buuut.. |
2004-11-08, 16:34 | Link #55 |
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The problem with subs in mkv or ogm is that if you plan to do something fancy fx/typesetting, there's a fallback to this method since ppl can rip off those subs and copy/learn the fx which may or may not be good for the person who work hard on the effects.
As for my preference, it doesnt really matter as long as I can see the sub and the sub is free of error like (spacing error,spelling error, and quotation error). As for special effects, you dont really need it. Many ppl dont even pay attention to it. Why overwork yourself over such petty pretty effects? Just work on making sure the subs look good and error proof (pertains to fansubbing). As for dvd ripping, DONT GET LAZY and not check the subs. Subrip can screw up when you are ripping it from the dvd. Make sure to check it. Hehe that's my two cents |
2004-11-08, 17:45 | Link #56 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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2004-11-08, 19:20 | Link #57 | ||
What? I am washed up!
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You don't know... the pain that... causes me... 0_o Edit: Note: Sarcasm implied. Quote:
Tight lipped fansubers < * -_- Last edited by SirCanealot; 2004-11-10 at 18:05. |
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2004-11-09, 18:49 | Link #58 | |
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2004-11-30, 14:17 | Link #59 |
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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I am briefly resurrecting this thread to provide a link that I found useful, since I finally got MKV working on my machine, and with WMP10 to boot. If anyone else is still having problems with it (and doesn't want to 'defile' their computer), check out Lazy Man's Guide to Ogg Media and Lazy Man's Guide to Matroska Video. If you need any further help installing VSFilter, VideoHelp.com has directions, just go to the tools section and search for VobSub.
Hooray, it finally works! |
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