Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Episode 2 Discussion/Poll

[Tokkan]

Okay first things first. Dark skin doesn't come from generations of living in high heat. Rather, light skin comes from generations of having less of a need for UV-ray protection. So get your facts straight Slayerx.

The view of Lior from the end of episode 2 looks like the place is in the middle of grass plains with a mountain range in the background. That's not a desert, not unless you're going to tell me farmers live in deserts. In which case you'd be wrong, deserts aren't fertile, they're incredible dry and barren.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

The view of Lior from the end of episode 2 looks like the place is in the middle of grass plains with a mountain range in the background. That's not a desert, not unless you're going to tell me farmers live in deserts. In which case you'd be wrong, deserts aren't fertile, they're incredible dry and barren.

Well I guess you're right. I didn't know that because I don't watch previews except for Bleach and Naruto (because they have omake at the end). Well, if someone had straight out told me to just watch the end of the episode and look at the preview, I would have. Geez, would have saved everyone a lot of time and frustration if some had just pointed this out earlier. I'm glad to know at least one person here has a functioning brain.

[Kafriel]

Originally Posted by Nosauz

especially when rose, is a very minor character in the manga. Also in the first series they twisted two plot lines into one arc, which in the end extended the one arc that rose was involved in.

Good god, did anyone read this? Let's stop fighting about the freaking setting of a town and concentrate on the people living in it and passing through it, if the story was about Lior,the show would be called Fullmetal Alchemist:Chronicles of Lior.

[Avira]

Anyway, does it really matter if Lior is in the desert or if Rose has a tan? The first is just a location and the second is a minor character. Really people, it's not all too important. Especially not to get worked up about.

EDIT: Ah, Kafriel was quicker^^'

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Avira

Anyway, does it really matter if Lior is in the desert or if Rose has a tan? The first is just a location and the second is a minor character. Really people, it's not all too important. Especially not to get worked up about.

You're missing the point.

We have one person not accepting the fact that the first series was doing it's own thing, and that this series plans to stick close to the manga, which shows Rose's true skin color as it was displayed in the source material.

[Avira]

I was jut referring to the one post, but I guess you are right. The first anime indeed has nothing to do with this one and all that happened or was shown there has nothing to do with FMA: Brotherhood.

[Avira]

Calling people a 'childish brat' and using 'boy' at the end of a sentence in italics indicates anger, hun.
Not-angry people don't really use biting sarcasm either and your post was full of it.
Just saying.

Nice that you've acknowledged that I'm a female. Plus I feel honored that you wrote my name in bold. Really.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Spectacular_Insanity

Well I guess you're right. I didn't know that because I don't watch previews except for Bleach and Naruto (because they have omake at the end). Well, if someone had straight out told me to just watch the end of the episode and look at the preview, I would have. Geez, would have saved everyone a lot of time and frustration if some had just pointed this out earlier. I'm glad to know at least one person here has a functioning brain.

Like this?

Originally Posted by BetoJR

Here's Rose, taken from the preview at the end of this very episode:



Like I said before, that's the skin tone she has in the manga, and that's how she's going to be in this series. Deal with it.

Yare, yare... Read previous posts, people. There's a reason why this forum and most others have a "Go to first new post" link.

Can we call this over now? The manga/Brotherhood version of Rose and presumably other Liorans are fair-skinned, Brotherhood Lior is not in a desert, and it has no effect whatsoever on the plot either way. Geez, I almost miss the naked manga spoilers...

[Full Metal Jackass]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Like this?

well played my friend

[SnowCrasher]

Just because they rearranged the order of story, I don't think we should assume that they skipped everything in between altogether. They'll have to elaborate more on the past events later at another time. It's still too early to tell everything.
We'll just have to be patient and watch how the director carries out the story in the future...
Irie-san, don't disappoint us! >_<

It would definitely put our minds at ease if we know how many episodes it's planned for though...

[Yokai]

The story is that Father Cornello made the place into an Oasis, and before it was a desert barren-land.

To be honest, it's really minor. But, shouldn't Rose have red eyes at the very least?

[BetoJR]

Originally Posted by Yokai

The story is that Father Cornello made the place into an Oasis, and before it was a desert barren-land.

Not in the manga, it's not. Cornello simply gave the people something to believe in. In hard or even desperate times, that's really all it takes.

Originally Posted by Yokai

To be honest, it's really minor. But, shouldn't Rose have red eyes at the very least?

Why? She's not from Ishval...

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Yokai

The story is that Father Cornello made the place into an Oasis, and before it was a desert barren-land.

To be honest, it's really minor. But, shouldn't Rose have red eyes at the very least?

**headdesk**

Liorans are not related to Ishballans. In fact, Lior is part of Amestris, same as Resembool, Central, etc. Otherwise Ed and Al would have no authority once they got there. Other than looking a little more rural and (IIRC) all having dark hair (except for Rose's bangs), the natives of Lior look the same as any other group of Amestrians we've seen.

[ItsTheMatthias]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

**headdesk**

Liorans are not related to Ishballans. In fact, Lior is part of Amestris, same as Resembool, Central, etc. Otherwise Ed and Al would have no authority once they got there. Other than looking a little more rural and (IIRC) all having dark hair (except for Rose's bangs), the natives of Lior look the same as any other group of Amestrians we've seen.

I'm pretty sure they made Lior, Lior residents, and Rose look more like desert, Ishbalan-like people in the first series is because the series wanted to make a close comparison with what happens to Ed, Al, Rose, and Scar in Lior to what happened back in Ishbal. The invasion of the army, synthesis of the Philospher's Stone, rebels ighting back, and everything else are almost identical to what happened in Ishbal. This isn't the case anymore since this time around... (MAJOR SPOILER! READ ONLY IF YOU'RE WILLING FOR A HUGE SPOILER OR IF YOU READ THE MANGA!)

Spoiler:

...I don't think they're going back to Lior. In the manga there's absolutely no signs of Rose or Lior after the Lior arc. Instead of using one city to generate the Philospher's Stone, the new series will be using ALL of Armestris, just like in the manga. With this being said, Lior is pretty insignificant other than demonstrating Ed and Al's kick-ass fighting skills as well as mainly introducing the Philosopher's Stone. That's probably why Lior is a much, not-like-Ishbal type of town now and was probably Arakawa's original depiction of Lior. (Would've helped if the manga was colored. :P) Bones actually sat down with Arakawa more this time around I believe, so they've done a lot of planning and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just randomly change something for no reason. All changes, whether it's different from the first series or the manga, has had a reason! Isaac is one obvious example already to prevent repetition from the first series.

[Sannom]

I'm pretty sure they made Lior, Lior residents, and Rose look more like desert, Ishbalan-like people in the first series is because the series wanted to make a close comparison with what happens to Ed, Al, Rose, and Scar in Lior to what happened back in Ishbal.

I'm myself pretty sure that they wanted to use Rose more and tried to find way to differentiate her from the other main female characters, Riza and Winry. Especially when the two are so much alike. So they gave to Rose a darker skin, black hair and an extravagant hair color. And they put Lior in a desert and darkened the restaurant guy in order to make Rose's skin color more "believable" (nothing could be done for the hair though ).

[.redline]

I was just watching the episode again, and has anyone else bothered trying to read the writing on the Gate? Right when Ed is pulled in, it says "Sephiroth" on the right side...thought that was kinda cool

[SnowCrasher]

Originally Posted by ItsTheMatthias

Spoiler:

...I don't think they're going back to Lior. In the manga there's absolutely no signs of Rose or Lior after the Lior arc. Instead of using one city to generate the Philospher's Stone, the new series will be using ALL of Armestris, just like in the manga. With this being said, Lior is pretty insignificant other than demonstrating Ed and Al's kick-ass fighting skills as well as mainly introducing the Philosopher's Stone. That's probably why Lior is a much, not-like-Ishbal type of town now and was probably Arakawa's original depiction of Lior. (Would've helped if the manga was colored. :P) Bones actually sat down with Arakawa more this time around I believe, so they've done a lot of planning and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just randomly change something for no reason. All changes, whether it's different from the first series or the manga, has had a reason! Isaac is one obvious example already to prevent repetition from the first series.

Spoiler:

Actually, they DO go back to Lior in the manga. Al meets Hohenheim and hears his story, and there's also a bit of interaction between Rose and Winry as well. I doubt they would skip over that. They also mention it several times later as the civil uprising there plays a significant part of the story, even if it is not singled out on its own.

[destiny4everlove]

Episode 2

-Al and Ed’s mom was so sweet. I felt so sad during the scene when Ed and Al where in front of their mother’s tomb. BTW, watching that scene just increased my curiosity about Al and Ed’s dad.

-The Human transmutation scene was very well done. It was very emotional. What I didn’t understand was …who was that person without a face who was talking to Ed in that “white” world? For a moment there, he/she looked like one of the other characters…but I think I’m wrong…

-I really liked the part when Roy and Riza met Al, Ed, Winry and the grandma. There was a slightly tension during that scene that made it very enjoyable for me.

-Ed’s examination was awesome! Ed’s actions during the examination made me like him more than before.

[APastelPainting]

Why did FMA:B change Riza's eye color to brown? I liked her much more when her eyes were red. She looked more distinguished and not to mention... hotter

Now she just looks like a boring blonde.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by APastelPainting

Why did FMA:B change Riza's eye color to brown?

Because that's her eye color in the source material, the manga.