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Applehell · 2017-11-12, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Twi

Simon is more or less neutral towards him. Even Elias comments on him not being a watchdog given how he tried to come over to eat.

Right, I wasn't quite sure where to place him. They are both respectful enough towards each with regard to how long their have known each other, but they aren't not exactly friends either.

Ultragunner · 2017-11-13, 07:51

now that IS some awesome soundtrack and visual for an introduction

but I wish they had cut down a bit on the boob shot though

Guardian Enzo · 2017-11-13, 11:59

Fertility Goddess... Sure it's service too, but there is a context where it makes sense to highlight that.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2017-11-13, 16:41

I'd never heard of Titania as a fertility goddess. But then again, I know her mostly from Shakespeare and inspired stories than whatever the original myths are, so yeah

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Guardian Enzo · 2017-11-13, 17:41

I don't think Shakespeare depicted her as such, but the more general concept of a pagan "Queen of the Forest, Queen of the Night" definitely has some fertility Goddess elements to it. I think the mangaka just chose the name Titania because it's a connection anyone who knows Shakespeare would be familiar with.

Wandering Soul · 2017-11-13, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Ultragunner

now that IS some awesome soundtrack and visual for an introduction

but I wish they had cut down a bit on the boob shot though

They put their all into every aspect of the character, including the boob physics. Nothing wrong with wanting to show off the fruit of their labor

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nojay · 2017-11-13, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I think the mangaka just chose the name Titania because it's a connection anyone who knows Shakespeare would be familiar with.

Elias knows her as the Queen Under The Hill, Tir na Nog which is more than a simple reference to Shakespeare's play, Midsummer Night's Dream. The Seelie and Unseelie Court has a long and deep history in British folklore which is the wellspring of most of the story set in and around Elias' home in southern England. Titania is a power in the land but there are others, more dangerous than her, that we will probably meet later if the anime tracks the manga accurately (chapter 25, for example -- buy the books!).

The Sleigh Beggy reference is another matter. I preferred the original fan translation "Slay Vega", I must admit.

Applehell · 2017-11-13, 23:39

"Slay Vega" sounds badass too so there is that.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2017-11-14, 04:13

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Originally Posted by nojay

Elias knows her as the Queen Under The Hill, Tir na Nog which is more than a simple reference to Shakespeare's play, Midsummer Night's Dream. The Seelie and Unseelie Court has a long and deep history in British folklore which is the wellspring of most of the story set in and around Elias' home in southern England. Titania is a power in the land but there are others, more dangerous than her, that we will probably meet later if the anime tracks the manga accurately (chapter 25, for example -- buy the books!).

The Sleigh Beggy reference is another matter. I preferred the original fan translation "Slay Vega", I must admit.

Do you happen to know any good books/references to that material? I would be interested in reading more! Something in the vein of Gaiman's "Norse Gods", with a narrative cut rather than being just a dry academic recount of collected myths and folklore, would be ideal.

Guardian Enzo · 2017-11-14, 10:54

Some people might consider James Frazer's "New Golden Bough" "dry and academic", but a better record of folklore and religion in Europe has never been written. If you find the subject matter interesting I think you'd find the book interesting.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2017-11-14, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Some people might consider James Frazer's "New Golden Bough" "dry and academic", but a better record of folklore and religion in Europe has never been written. If you find the subject matter interesting I think you'd find the book interesting.

Just to clarify, I don't see anything wrong with academic accounts - they are certainly necessary for researchers in the topic - I just meant that my interest is more in reading the stories as such rather than a philological account

. But thanks!

(EDIT: the original work is on Project Gutenberg and the style looks interesting enough. I'll check it out)

Stark700 · 2017-11-18, 14:01

Wow, episode 7.

The little details between Chise and Elias were interesting to watch especially with their relationship development.
Even though she isn't perfect yet at crafting magic, potions etc, Chise is doing her best to make it work. Furthermore, this episode reveals more what that strange kid is doing with his ingredients. They also adapted the transformation scenes well imo especially the Black Dog.

Pretty thrilling cliffhanger. I'm very excited for next week!

blakstealth · 2017-11-18, 14:45

We finally get our first "oh shit" moment. Wow, Elias definitely looks like an experiment gone wrong.

AB079 · 2017-11-18, 15:00

That was an excellent episode, on the first half we can see that Chise is trying to learn more about magic so she can't be so dependant of Elias but at the same time to make him proud which shows the depth of their relationship and that they still have a lot of things to learn.

Now the best part of the episode was Joseph's intervention with the chimera, for now we don't know his intentions or the reason why he does it but he crossed the line by attacking Chise, the real form of Elias is finally revealed.

The preview shows that we're going to see what happens and that we're getting more about the black dog's past.

Kanon · 2017-11-18, 19:48

How much time has passed since Chise woke up last episode? She seems to have learned quite a few things already.

Renfred and Alice were confirmed not to be bad guys, they're just threatened into doing that sorcerer kid's bidding. He's taking advantage of other people once again. I hope Elias will teach him a lesson next week.

I'm interested in the black dog's backstory. It's a bit confusing. He seems to think he's human and that Isabelle was his sister, but flashbacks show him as a dog. Elias also commented he had only awakened recently. My guess is that he was a normal dog until Isabelle got killed, and turning into a black dog coupled with the trauma of losing his beloved owner jumbled his memories.

Elias' true form is terrifying. No wonder so many fear him.

PreSage · 2017-11-18, 20:44

What a cliffhanger!!!!

Talk about a chimera and the black dog reminds me of the dog/child chimera tragedy in Fullmetal Alchemist. Hopefully things won't go that tragic in this series.

...ah, but Elias is angry now...and you don't want Elias angry. I'm still curios to know what Elias' origin is. Don't know if they have already revealed it in the manga - waiting to finish the anime before picking that up again.

...and once again, the animation production and music is topnotch in this series. The black dog's transformation reminds me of a scene from a Ghibli movie. Kind of wondering why this particular series got such high production value (high budget?) - not complaining! Glad for it!

blakstealth · 2017-11-18, 21:06

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Originally Posted by PreSage

What a cliffhanger!!!!

Talk about a chimera and the black dog reminds me of the dog/child chimera tragedy in Fullmetal Alchemist. Hopefully things won't go that tragic in this series.

...ah, but Elias is angry now...and you don't want Elias angry. I'm still curios to know what Elias' origin is. Don't know if they have already revealed it in the manga - waiting to finish the anime before picking that up again.

...and once again, the animation production and music is topnotch in this series. The black dog's transformation reminds me of a scene from a Ghibli movie. Kind of wondering why this particular series got such high production value (high budget?) - not complaining! Glad for it!

Didn't the last episode mention that he was a fairy or something like that?

AB079 · 2017-11-18, 21:13

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Originally Posted by blakstealth

Didn't the last episode mention that he was a fairy or something like that?

Actually he's not a fairy nor a human, he's something in the middle based on what was mentioned before.

Wandering Soul · 2017-11-18, 21:24

Chise has become quite resourceful since last episode. She handled herself pretty well.

Elias's transformation was well animated and really helped convey the fear everyone else must have felt.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2017-11-19, 08:50

So Elias has a true form, and he's now mighty pissed. At this point I wonder if the kid is going to survive next episode and become a long-term antagonist or if this is end of the line for him. Elias doesn't look like he's the forgiving type, and I'm pretty sure he's not one to be trifled with in terms of power.

2017-11-13, 07:51	Link #202
Ultragunner Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	now that IS some awesome soundtrack and visual for an introduction but I wish they had cut down a bit on the boob shot though __________________

2017-11-13, 16:41	Link #204
Gan_HOPE326 Maddo Scientisto Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: UK	I'd never heard of Titania as a fertility goddess. But then again, I know her mostly from Shakespeare and inspired stories than whatever the original myths are, so yeah . __________________ ---- What if Goku was super smart and had a thing for philosophy? Find out in The Optimised Wish Project! ---- My other fanfiction can be found here.

2017-11-18, 14:01	Link #212
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Wow, episode 7. The little details between Chise and Elias were interesting to watch especially with their relationship development. Even though she isn't perfect yet at crafting magic, potions etc, Chise is doing her best to make it work. Furthermore, this episode reveals more what that strange kid is doing with his ingredients. They also adapted the transformation scenes well imo especially the Black Dog. Pretty thrilling cliffhanger. I'm very excited for next week! __________________

2017-11-18, 19:48	Link #215
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	How much time has passed since Chise woke up last episode? She seems to have learned quite a few things already. Renfred and Alice were confirmed not to be bad guys, they're just threatened into doing that sorcerer kid's bidding. He's taking advantage of other people once again. I hope Elias will teach him a lesson next week. I'm interested in the black dog's backstory. It's a bit confusing. He seems to think he's human and that Isabelle was his sister, but flashbacks show him as a dog. Elias also commented he had only awakened recently. My guess is that he was a normal dog until Isabelle got killed, and turning into a black dog coupled with the trauma of losing his beloved owner jumbled his memories. Elias' true form is terrifying. No wonder so many fear him. __________________

2017-11-18, 20:44	Link #216
PreSage Strangely dependable... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: some random place out there...	What a cliffhanger!!!! Talk about a chimera and the black dog reminds me of the dog/child chimera tragedy in Fullmetal Alchemist. Hopefully things won't go that tragic in this series. ...ah, but Elias is angry now...and you don't want Elias angry. I'm still curios to know what Elias' origin is. Don't know if they have already revealed it in the manga - waiting to finish the anime before picking that up again. ...and once again, the animation production and music is topnotch in this series. The black dog's transformation reminds me of a scene from a Ghibli movie. Kind of wondering why this particular series got such high production value (high budget?) - not complaining! Glad for it! __________________ :\|::\|Sig Gallery\|::\|: --------------- [/TH][/TR][/table]

2017-11-13, 23:39	Link #208
Applehell Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	"Slay Vega" sounds badass too so there is that.

2017-11-18, 14:45	Link #213
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	We finally get our first "oh shit" moment. Wow, Elias definitely looks like an experiment gone wrong.

2017-11-18, 15:00	Link #214
AB079 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016	That was an excellent episode, on the first half we can see that Chise is trying to learn more about magic so she can't be so dependant of Elias but at the same time to make him proud which shows the depth of their relationship and that they still have a lot of things to learn. Now the best part of the episode was Joseph's intervention with the chimera, for now we don't know his intentions or the reason why he does it but he crossed the line by attacking Chise, the real form of Elias is finally revealed. The preview shows that we're going to see what happens and that we're getting more about the black dog's past.

2017-11-18, 21:24	Link #219
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	Chise has become quite resourceful since last episode. She handled herself pretty well. Elias's transformation was well animated and really helped convey the fear everyone else must have felt. __________________

2017-11-19, 08:50	Link #220
Gan_HOPE326 Maddo Scientisto Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: UK	So Elias has a true form, and he's now mighty pissed. At this point I wonder if the kid is going to survive next episode and become a long-term antagonist or if this is end of the line for him. Elias doesn't look like he's the forgiving type, and I'm pretty sure he's not one to be trifled with in terms of power. __________________ ---- What if Goku was super smart and had a thing for philosophy? Find out in The Optimised Wish Project! ---- My other fanfiction can be found here.