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Old 2016-11-19, 19:44   Link #2561
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Zamasu won in the end. This is genuinely surprising...the future timeline is gone...
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Old 2016-11-19, 21:01   Link #2562
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Yep, the timeline is gone. The Zen'o button WAS a solution, but I don't think that it was a solution anyone expected.
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Old 2016-11-19, 21:41   Link #2563
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Damn Trunks and the others failed which is a first because the dragon ball can't fix this mess since it got destroyed in that timeline.
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Old 2016-11-19, 22:19   Link #2564
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Idk how I feel about this arc in general as the final few episodes made me scratching my head a bit. Decent conclusion though.

Going to miss future Mei (I hope she'll show up again in the future). Vegeta's farewell to Trunks was priceless and very fitting for a guy like him.
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Old 2016-11-19, 22:24   Link #2565
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So Trunks is stronger than Goku and Vegeta in normal?

He blocked Vegeta's punch with one hand.
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Old 2016-11-19, 22:35   Link #2566
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Yep, the timeline is gone. The Zen'o button WAS a solution, but I don't think that it was a solution anyone expected.
actually i was expectating and if i'm not wrong i talked about, i was more surprise about zamasu being defeated without it in the previos episode but then goku using the buttom just make what i was expectating happen, i could see it in the moment zeno give it to goku.

Now basically we have 2 zeno-sama???, man if you think about it, the things get much more messed and worse now timeline wise, which now we have 3 futures trunks(1 pink, and possible 2 blue, 2 zeno sama), akira really messed a lot here with time travel.

that ending with the planet and maybe the universe being erased not was the "best one" but was a good ending, the problem is which this make now zeno not really being a onipresent thing since , unlike let's say peoples like darkside which exist only one in any universe and timeline the ultimate god here can have multiples of himself based on timeline and all the ring crap.

another problem is which all that mess with timeline was so simple forget, no consequences or what some, make a little weird since this was supposed to be a tabu and have some consequences but forget it we are talking about "dragon bal" and akira where everything will be fine.
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Old 2016-11-19, 23:04   Link #2567
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Wow, that's one scary sky. And Goku actually having the sense to do something decent for once and ask everyone to run. Though how he and Vegeta survived through the time fabric is another matter.

Behold, Zeno sama! That was impressive to say the least. If he destroyed a universe/multiverse, it makes sense he's the only one left. And 2 Zeno-sama in the current multiverse now? You really want it to be destroyed, dun you Goku?

Could someone elaborate what Whis was suggesting in the end? I think my head hurts.
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Old 2016-11-19, 23:33   Link #2568
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Wow, that's one scary sky. And Goku actually having the sense to do something decent for once and ask everyone to run. Though how he and Vegeta survived through the time fabric is another matter.

Behold, Zeno sama! That was impressive to say the least. If he destroyed a universe/multiverse, it makes sense he's the only one left. And 2 Zeno-sama in the current multiverse now? You really want it to be destroyed, dun you Goku?

Could someone elaborate what Whis was suggesting in the end? I think my head hurts.
well to be honest don't forget dragon ball is not about "make sense" just "feel it accept it and enjoy all the nonsense .
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Old 2016-11-19, 23:36   Link #2569
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I liked the whole trunks arc up until the final 2 episodes when things got a little too crazy and sloppy

I'm sure we'll see trunks again when he gets his new timeline vaporized somehow.
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Old 2016-11-19, 23:57   Link #2570
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Also it should be noted that the "Goku has never kissed Chichi"-line is also in the manga. In fact it's even more blatant there as Vegeta actually specifies that he's talking about a kiss before Goku goes "Of course I haven't!"

I mean I don't remember if that caused a massive outrage here, but it certainly did on Kanzenshuu back when the episode aired.
In fact, yeah, caused a little outrage. I don't criticize to Goku, but Trunks for the unnecessary, yeah boy, you don't fool me. Worst wounds don't require eat the senzu by a kiss, I say, Gohan eat a senzu with the damn broken neck
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Old 2016-11-20, 00:00   Link #2571
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BTW, It's my idea or Goku was about to cause the destruction of all creation?
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Old 2016-11-20, 00:14   Link #2572
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Could someone elaborate what Whis was suggesting in the end? I think my head hurts.
I was watching the raw, so don't take my word on this, but Whis was intimating that Trunks and Mai could instead make the timeline branches made when Beerus destroyed Zamasu their own.

The problem is that it won't be their timeline anymore, and no one they know would be there AS THEY KNOW THEM. It won't have their history or anything, but it would be a chance to live in peace.

Essentially, Trunks and Mai are like Post-Crisis pre-52 Superman and Lois Lane. For those who don't know the reference, the two (and their son) are now living in the post-Convergence Earth Prime.
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Old 2016-11-20, 00:56   Link #2573
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Could someone elaborate what Whis was suggesting in the end? I think my head hurts.
Basically Whis is going to drop them off in a timeline where Zamasu wasn't destroyed, but before he starts causing trouble and talk to Beerus before he dies as a result of the Supreme Kai's death. Whis apparently has a way to make the death stick this time, but he doesn't elaborate on how.

The problem is that there will already be a Trunks and Mai in that world along with versions of their dead allies, so they will have to adjust to that.
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Old 2016-11-20, 01:00   Link #2574
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I was watching the raw, so don't take my word on this, but Whis was intimating that Trunks and Mai could instead make the timeline branches made when Beerus destroyed Zamasu their own.

The problem is that it won't be their timeline anymore, and no one they know would be there AS THEY KNOW THEM. It won't have their history or anything, but it would be a chance to live in peace.

Essentially, Trunks and Mai are like Post-Crisis pre-52 Superman and Lois Lane. For those who don't know the reference, the two (and their son) are now living in the post-Convergence Earth Prime.
No, he was suggesting that they go to a past "future" timeline where Zamasu still wasn't destroyed, but just before Black actually kills all the Supreme Kai like he said he did. It would still be a Future Trunks timeline where Goku is dead and he had to kill 17 and 18, but one not as far before Beerus dies.

Since it would be an alternate timeline, there would still be another Trunks and Mai.

Though I do have to agree it's convoluted and pointless. They could have lived in the past with Goku and ended things right there.
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Old 2016-11-20, 01:45   Link #2575
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Since it would be an alternate timeline, there would still be another Trunks and Mai.

Though I do have to agree it's convoluted and pointless. They could have lived in the past with Goku and ended things right there.
There would still be 2 trunks and 2 mai in the past.

And little trunks will be spoiled.


Now there's 2 Zenos in their current timeline. Imagine if they fused!

Still, if Hit is coming back, I can't see how he can beat Goku or Vegeta now. They're far stronger than their last clash and I doubt Hit got stronger.

MAybe it's the Universe 7 Hit?
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Old 2016-11-20, 01:50   Link #2576
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There would still be 2 trunks and 2 mai in the past.
Yeah, exactly.

And if Mai wants to return to their "future", Whis basically admitted they would have to bend over backwards to make sure the Zamasu in the new timeline gets sealed away too.
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Old 2016-11-20, 02:35   Link #2577
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There would still be 2 trunks and 2 mai in the past.

And little trunks will be spoiled.


Now there's 2 Zenos in their current timeline. Imagine if they fused!

Still, if Hit is coming back, I can't see how he can beat Goku or Vegeta now. They're far stronger than their last clash and I doubt Hit got stronger.

MAybe it's the Universe 7 Hit?
But isn't Hit more or less invincible because of his time skip? The second they fight Hit will simply improve improve improve despite the fact that his strength wouldn't increase.
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Old 2016-11-20, 05:28   Link #2578
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Next dragon ball arc:

2 Trunks saving the future world from the newer threat.
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Old 2016-11-20, 05:48   Link #2579
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...So basically, Zamasu is about to consume all of reality so Goku summons the King of All who destroys the entire timeline and then Trunks and Mai go to an alternate timeline wherein Whis has warned Beerus about Zamasu and Black ahead of time, enabling him to kill him before he becomes a problem? Well that resolves things I guess, but... Trunks and the others completely and utterly failed. Literally everyone in the future timeline died. Kinda makes the whole ordeal feel pointless, doesn't it?
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Old 2016-11-20, 06:10   Link #2580
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First thing trunks should do is to search for Super Dragon Ball to raise all Z warriors.
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